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How much say should parents have over others using diminutives

94 replies

Namiemcnameface · 08/07/2026 21:48

If you call your child something that has a variety of shortenings, how much control do you think you should have over the use of particular diminutives by others?

For example if you have a Robert, and took to calling him Bobby, but then other family members/care givers/friends end up calling him Rob, Robbie, Bob, Bertie etc.

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AgnesMcDoo · 09/07/2026 10:34

When they are babies and toddlers - complete say.

once they go to school - it’s up to their pals 100%

notanothernamesurely · 09/07/2026 10:28

With family - you have some control. Once they are at school - much less so.

BigWig78 · 09/07/2026 10:14

I only have one child with an obvious shortening or nickname type name (think Robert- Bob, Bobbie, Rob) and funnily enough everyone in the family just sticks to his full name. But sports clubs have often shortened it and that can be helpful when there are other Roberts in the team. He becomes Rob at rugby but Bobby at tennis for example. He’s happy being called whatever… once a child is old enough o have an opinion, theirs is the only one that matters tbh.
@Namiemcnameface those family members changing the grandparents names are ridiculous. My parent became Gran and Grandad when the first grandchild was born and that is what they have to be called by all
future grandchildren!!! Surely that only makes sense.

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 09/07/2026 10:09

I think it depends on the child’s age and if they have expressed a preference themselves. My son is 3 and has a name that is commonly shortened, but because we prefer the full version we only ever call him that. As a result he will only turn around if someone says his full first name because he has no idea that the short version is supposed to be his name. He is autistic and has very limited functional language, so he cannot explain to people himself that he prefers his full name. So I do ask people not to call him the short version because he won’t respond to it. I would be a bit annoyed if people ignored me and kept calling him by the short version anyway, because I know he doesn’t like it and just can’t tell them himself. If when he’s older he decides to use the shortened version, that’s his decision and I should have no say at all.

Namiemcnameface · 09/07/2026 10:05

@Orchidgrower ahh grandparents! Mine called me by my full birth certificate name no matter what anyone said and eventually I was told off for being disrespectful in correcting them. So just put up with it.

I never use my full name and eventually changed it legally to the shortening I've basically gone by since birth. Only very recently found out mum much preferred the long name and wanted it to be the only one people used, but so many people shortened it she gave up.

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NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 10:03

Your best way IMO is to say 'This is Bobby' when he is introduced to people.
They can then ask if he has a middle name, then you could say 'His full name is Robert William Robson but he'll be known as Bobby'.

Orchidgrower · 09/07/2026 09:59

When one of mine was small she couldn't say her full name and the abbreviation she used was cute for a 2-3-4 year old. One close relative still calls her that when she's a teenager, even though they have been told that she does not like it any more. I feel that is disrespectful, but the relative sees it as being affectionate.

Namiemcnameface · 09/07/2026 09:57

@Justmadesourkraut right?! My kid is currently known as Mayo. Nothing to do with his actual name in the slightest! Doesn't even share any of the same letters 🤣

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Justmadesourkraut · 09/07/2026 09:53

Naming a baby is the parents choice. That includes abbreviations/nickmames. However, unless you are with family a lot of the time, you just gently correct. 'Silly Grandad's calling you the wrong name/nickname again' until the kid is old enough to choose. Or until a random nickname emerges eg Simon loves Biscuits and becomes Biscuitbaby . . .And suddenly you are calling your child Bisco for years!

Namiemcnameface · 09/07/2026 09:35

@WhatAMarvelousTune Very true. Including the example of Bobby to Bertie above probably wasn't the best as that's quite a big leap and wasn't what originally was happening. It was more akin to Robert being affectionately called Bobby and then someone asking for an update on Robbie and being shut down rapidly.

Yes it might happen when older but understandable that you wouldn't want it coming from family whilst they're still v fresh.

Over the course of the chat pretty much every possible diminutive got brought up, even ones you might not have realised were linked (like how I've recently learned that Daisy and Maisie can be short for Margaret!). Would have been a good debate if it didn't include sleep deprived, emotional people getting very upset that anyone would dare attempt to do anything other than what they were explicitly told.

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WhatAMarvelousTune · 09/07/2026 09:25

I think it depends on the nickname as well.

So for example, if you have a baby called Jessica and the parents call her Jess, I think they’d be a little weird to be upset if a grandparent sometimes said Jessie.
But if you have a baby called Elizabeth and the parents call her Lizzie, it would be weird for a grandparent to decide to use Beth.

Namiemcnameface · 09/07/2026 09:18

@Shinyandnew1 they are the latest first time parents in our clan yup. Baby isn't called Bobby was just using that as an example. The name isn't changing quite as extremely as Bobby to Bertie but it is a name with lots of options so was trying to use a similar example.

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Shinyandnew1 · 09/07/2026 09:06

If they are new parents (in your OP) who have chosen eg Robert but you call him
Bobby, yet other family members decide to call him Bertie, I think that’s bizarre.

When they are older and at school/with friends then other names emerge but deliberately using different names than the parents for a new baby is just dickish.

dancingdeidre · 09/07/2026 09:01

NamingNoNames · 08/07/2026 23:22

If the child is young, then I believe the parents should insist on their preferred name.
For example, this is Robert, Bobby for short should mean that.
When Bobby's a teenager or adult he can choose.

@Henriettina , I like Elizabeth but not Beth. Does that mean I shouldn't use Elizabeth?

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If a child is called Beth by her parents , you should call her that too. It's not fair to use a different name even if that name is on her birth certificate. Teachers will say Beth.

Namiemcnameface · 09/07/2026 08:58

Mixed bag of responses. I'm personally a path of least resistance type. Doesn't feel like there's any point falling out over it.

Family chat has moved on now. Think the parents won this round, but it has been stated that once baby is out in the world they're going to have to unclench. They disagree.

Ironically this is the 10th grandchild (none with the same name though as someone suggested!) and last year before birth the parents announced they didn't like what all the other children call the maternal grandparents and that their children will be calling them something else and it wasn't negotiable. The names they go by (and have done for about 20 years) were originally chosen to help differentiate them from the other grandparents...déjà vu! But that's completely different, apparently.

Anyway, thank you for your responses, I do enjoy a good debate when I'm not the one emotionally invested 🤣

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NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 08:51

I agree completely. My relative was batshit. As they got to know me, the 'diminutive' was dropped.

I think they had a point in that the name they called me was nicer than my given name, but to do it because they didn't like my parents' choice was weird and probably a control thing.

A friend's DD has a name with two obvious shortenings (e.g. Matilda/Tilly/Tilda) and when someone whether she'd be Tilly or Tilda they were corrected to the full name. The parents decided on another 'diminutive' and the baby was soon Molly and has been known as Molly ever since and is only Matilda on her BC.

(The names are examples, not the actual ones.)

Herstruly · 09/07/2026 06:24

The parents are the ones who chose the name. They know better than anyone else what their baby’s name is and what their baby should be called. They have full say until the baby is old enough to express an opinion. The other family members are free to have their own children and call them what they’d like. You do not get to essentially rename someone else’s baby (as diminutives often become permanent).

Thereyago · 09/07/2026 05:59

They’ll never admit it, but I feel like some people do this on purpose as some sort of bizarre control thing or to be petty. It’s like once they find out that the parents don’t like a certain diminutive (or don’t want the name to be shortened at all), they’ll suddenly insist on shortening the child’s name constantly. It’s almost like they have the attitude of I’m going to call your child this because I know that it irritates you, and there’s nothing you can do about it. It’s obnoxious behaviour and very childish, honestly.

Never make it obvious that you don’t like a certain diminutive of your child’s name or don’t want it to be shortened.

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 01:16

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 01:07

It's not. If the parents don't want it used then that should be respected.

It was just a hypothetical eg.

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 01:07

It's not. If the parents don't want it used then that should be respected.

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 01:04

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 01:02

It's bloody awful and is longer than Angus.

It's more affectionate too. But some families just aren't into affectionate-sounding names, I get that.

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 01:02

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 00:59

If DM or DMIL called my baby Gussie they'd be told in no uncertain terms what to do with that idea.

Well some people would be like that, it's true.

It's bloody awful and is longer than Angus.

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 00:59

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 00:55

I disagree. My parents named me. They said not to shorten it. One relative didn't like my name and called me a diminutive of sorts. (The diminutive is OK but wasn't and isn't 'me' and it was something like calling an Angela Anna)

Only one of my cousins goes by a diminutive and it's one used from birth and is something like Alex. The relative obviously disliked my name.

If DM or DMIL called my baby Gussie they'd be told in no uncertain terms what to do with that idea.

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If DM or DMIL called my baby Gussie they'd be told in no uncertain terms what to do with that idea.

Well some people would be like that, it's true.

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 00:58

I know a Christopher whose parents called him Gopher and his grandparents called him Kipper (both interpretations or variants of how he tried to say his name at about 18 months).

Gopher stuck and his mates still call him that, but only his Grandparents ever called him Kipper. He loved them having a special name for him and it kind of marked out the relationship with them. They used to buy him plush fish and birthday cards with kippers, while his parents did the same with Gophers. No-one minded too much!

But saying "well we don't like Lizzie so if you don't mind we're going to call her Beth" would be out of line I think.

NamingNoNames · 09/07/2026 00:55

Calliopespa · 09/07/2026 00:40

I think it also depends a bit on the name.

For example, if the child is Elizabeth, known as Lizzie, and family start calling her Beth, that is being a bit wilfully divergent.

But if Angus, known as Gus, gets Gussie from Grandma, that falls more within natural affection.

I disagree. My parents named me. They said not to shorten it. One relative didn't like my name and called me a diminutive of sorts. (The diminutive is OK but wasn't and isn't 'me' and it was something like calling an Angela Anna)

Only one of my cousins goes by a diminutive and it's one used from birth and is something like Alex. The relative obviously disliked my name.

If DM or DMIL called my baby Gussie they'd be told in no uncertain terms what to do with that idea.

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