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What happened to normal conventional names?

163 replies

VelvetLace · 17/06/2026 18:41

An acquaintance who is due slightly after me has just announced on Facebook that she will be naming her baby girl Charm. I originally thought it was short for something else but no. It's just the word Charm. I'm not saying that everyone should name their baby something incredibly dull, but why have full-blown dog names become so common for human beings? Has naming babies just become a creativity contest? I see a lot of conventional names being asked about and considered on MN, but I'm seeing the opposite with people that I know offline. DH and I were discussing this last night.

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yonem · 18/06/2026 11:48

I don’t like Charm because I don’t like names that put expectations on a child to be a certain way - same reason I don’t like Joy, Grace, Belle/Beau, Rebel etc.

I do think some parents forget that their baby is actually a person and not a doll. There’s no other way to explain why three babies were named Teddy-Bear in 2024.

Bellybellas · 18/06/2026 11:34

JuliettaCaeser · 18/06/2026 08:07

Most kids are called the same 6 names. In our case the name Eve. At one point one third of the girls in dd1 class were called a variant of Eve. Mental. And extremely confusing.

Same here. Sooo many girls called Eve or Ellie….

I think Charm is a great name that’s way more memorable than some of the overused top 10 names.

As long as the name is easy to spell and pronounce and doesn’t have negative associations, I think unusual names are much nicer than boring top 10 ones.

MidnightPatrol · 18/06/2026 11:15

Herstruly · 17/06/2026 18:59

Bless that poor child. I'm not sure why every name must be so cutesy and infantile now. This is as bad as that 'influencer' couple that named their son Koazy because he was cosy in the womb. 🙄

You do wonder what the kids will think of these kinds of names when they’re adults.

Although, people do have more unusual names now so perhaps it will be fine.

I am amazed by the popularity of the name Bambi, just seems a mad name for an adult woman.

concertinacornflake · 18/06/2026 11:12

Rubyupbeat · 18/06/2026 10:08

Keith Richards named his daughter Dandelion, although I think she went by a different name when she got older.

I quite like Dandelion !

BertSymptom · 18/06/2026 11:06

I think for some people naming children has definitely become a creativity contest and there’s some really wacky names coming from some influencers in particular. (And then others choose to name their children in line with what they think is trendy so the unusual, creative names people have struggled to come up with end up more mainstream after a while anyway.)

I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing to want to be creative. I put a lot of thought into naming my children because I wanted something that felt a bit more bespoke than off the peg and my choices would probably be described as “try hard” on here. Although I scour history, literature and the baby name books for a real but underused name, not pluck a word or an assortment of letters and sounds out of thin air and call it a name which I do think is silly!

But a virtue name like Charm isn’t even that out there and it probably wouldn’t look that out of place to the Victorians or the Puritans who loved a bit of that sort of thing, in fact it’s quite tame in comparison to some of theirs. And for every creative name there’s probably like ten Theo’s so it’s all relative anyway.

Rubyupbeat · 18/06/2026 10:08

sashh · 18/06/2026 05:13

As someone who was saddled with an 'unusual' spelling I totally agree.

Who decides what is and isn't a name? Look at flower names, Rose, Violet, Ivy, Holly all perfectly normal names but why not 'Daffodil'? 'Aspidistra'?

Keith Richards named his daughter Dandelion, although I think she went by a different name when she got older.

JuliettaCaeser · 18/06/2026 08:07

Most kids are called the same 6 names. In our case the name Eve. At one point one third of the girls in dd1 class were called a variant of Eve. Mental. And extremely confusing.

SadiraOfTyr · 18/06/2026 08:05

sashh · 18/06/2026 05:13

As someone who was saddled with an 'unusual' spelling I totally agree.

Who decides what is and isn't a name? Look at flower names, Rose, Violet, Ivy, Holly all perfectly normal names but why not 'Daffodil'? 'Aspidistra'?

You’ve never met a little baby Toadflax, or Hensbane?

SadiraOfTyr · 18/06/2026 08:03

You’re right, whatever happened to good old-fashioned Christian names like Chastity, Increase, Continent, and If-Christ-had-not-died-for-thee-thou-hadst-been-damned.

Iarthar · 18/06/2026 07:43

Sausagedog256 · 18/06/2026 07:30

This sums it up. I’ve noticed the same. Some people just want to disagree with the OP no matter what

No. I’m not keen on the name, but was just pointing out that ideas of ‘normality’ and ‘conventionality’ are entirely dependent on where you’re coming from.

Sausagedog256 · 18/06/2026 07:30

Loures · 17/06/2026 19:41

Most MNers always want to be contrary, OP. I've noticed this. If someone had started a thread saying that they loved the name Charm and wanted to use it, everyone on here would be saying how awful it is. Because you have started a thread criticising the name, everyone comes to defend it.

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This sums it up. I’ve noticed the same. Some people just want to disagree with the OP no matter what

sashh · 18/06/2026 05:13

LlynTegid · 17/06/2026 20:12

Charm will at least be a name everyone can spell, no lifetime of correcting it.

At one time the French had a list of approved names, I understand this ended because it excluded names from other heritages. Whilst it seems extreme I can understand the sentiment.

Unconventional spelling is not a loving thing to do to your child.

As someone who was saddled with an 'unusual' spelling I totally agree.

Who decides what is and isn't a name? Look at flower names, Rose, Violet, Ivy, Holly all perfectly normal names but why not 'Daffodil'? 'Aspidistra'?

Spottyvases · 18/06/2026 05:13

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 17/06/2026 20:07

Not a lot wrong with Charm. Naming children for virtues or for your hopes and dreams for them is pretty common in some countries. There are more traditional ones we might be familiar with like Verity, Prudence or Joy and there are also those that are more associated with some black African cultures such as Blessing. Or you can go all Spanish and go for Purificación. I would much rather Charm than Purificación!

Very true - I used to know a lovely nurse called Mercy and she did genuinely live up to her name.

RumbleHoney · 18/06/2026 05:09

my username was inspired by two Mormon model/influencer types 😄

AImportantMermaid · 18/06/2026 04:56

Tablesandchairs23 · 17/06/2026 20:47

Up to her what she calls her baby. Charm sounds like a stripper name!

Charm Inultra. It sounds like toilet paper.

SquirrelGG · 18/06/2026 04:49

My late DM, who would be in her nineties now, had a friend of a similar age named Jewel. I really don't see what is so odd about Charm.

Overtheatlantic · 18/06/2026 03:28

I’m more interested that she went on FB to announce the name of her unborn baby. I guess she’s excited.

Cuzy · 18/06/2026 02:50

I agree. I would argue that there’s not enough judgement and pressure within society. Social norms usually prevent people from doing things that are unwise. You see this in America where parents regularly name their children after weapons because of the lack of judgement from others there. There was even a couple in the UK who named their child after AH. Charm is just on the less extreme end of the spectrum.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-45800445

www.huffpost.com/entry/weapon-baby-names-trend_l_66fc3db0e4b0d70dca9f58f9

Adam Thomas and Claudia Patatas

'Neo-nazi' couple named baby after Hitler

A couple accused of being in National Action gave their child the middle name Adolf, a court hears.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-45800445

iseenyouwithkefir · 17/06/2026 23:44

I think Charm is a virtue or quality name, like Mercy, Faith, Merit, Honor, etc., although not one of the more popular ones in the UK. Could also be short for Charisma, I guess - as in Carpenter.

Sally2791 · 17/06/2026 23:44

Or siblings Quark and Strangeness

MrsPapillon · 17/06/2026 23:43

Charm isn’t too bad, in the grand scheme. Far better than some of the ridiculous names that parents are saddling their children with in their pursuit to give them a unique name. I’m sure some of them just stick a pin in the dictionary and choose a random word.

Crispynoodle · 17/06/2026 23:38

Charm is a lovely name let’s hope she’s charming! I’m a teacher and in my 20 plus years at this job I’ve never met a Grace that was graceful not once!

TheGriffle · 17/06/2026 23:36

My Nan is a Charm (pronounced Sharm) short for Charmaine. Have you heard them say it or just written down? If it’s pronounced Charm as in lucky charm then I’m not much of a fan.

HoppityBun · 17/06/2026 23:35

SemperIdem · 17/06/2026 19:42

What did you think Charm might be short for, Charmander?

Charmaine, Charmian

Denim4ever · 17/06/2026 23:32

There seem to be a lot of Alberts and Enids round here. Perhaps more unusual names are a backlash against toddlers with great grandparent type names

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