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Why is there so much dislike for the middle name rose on here?

166 replies

Bluewales · 06/03/2026 17:01

I called my daughter Ava Rose I think it’s very short and pretty and I chose rose for no particular reason other than I liked how it looked and sounded, which seems to be heavily looked down upon on here to choose rose just because it’s pretty and without family meaning but I don’t really understand why it matters. Rose is a filler i admit but it’s beautiful that’s why imo. Many on here always insist on giving a really clunky old fashioned middle name like Catherine, Elizabeth, Margaret etc after a family member or something but not everyone needs or wants to pick such names just for the sake of a family member and to potentially make the first name look uglier.

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.

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LaughingCat · 06/03/2026 20:22

Of my NCT group, half of the girls were given the middle name Rose. It’s not looked down on…it’s just everywhere.

Yewoo · 06/03/2026 20:21

There is nothing wrong with the name Rose. It’s a nice, pretty name. As is Ava. I can’t imagine anyone actually having strong negative opinions about either name.

Ava Rose or names of that ilk though are just very common. If that doesn’t bother you though then ignore the opinions of others.

Caselgarcia · 06/03/2026 20:20

Remember it's a surname too!

mathanxiety · 06/03/2026 20:20

BigFishLittleFishCardboardBoxes · 06/03/2026 20:08

It’s just become boring. Because every Ava will be an Ava Rose or an Ava May or an Ava Grace.

Same with Olivia, Amelia, Evie, Mia, Poppy, Willow…

Nobody owes you an unusual or interesting name.

TromboneTilly · 06/03/2026 20:20

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GreyhpundGirl · 06/03/2026 20:19

I'm a teacher- it's a very common middle name- like Mae/May/Mai. Lots of Avas/ Evies/ Lilys/ Gracies/Islas/ Lilahs with Rose or May as a middle name. I doubt anyone hates it, there's just zillions of them. My middle name is Louise- like most other women of my era.

My daughter has 'old fashioned' (they aren't actually but they aren't common- Diane is one) names as her middle names- both our mums died years ago- well before our daughter came along. As she was always going to be our only, it really meant something to us- to have that connection.

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 06/03/2026 20:19

I think Rose is popular because it sounds pleasant, has a pretty meaning and tends to flow well after the vowelly names which are popular these days. Also, one-syllable middle names can work with any length of surname, whereas if your surname has two or more syllables, many middle names might sound clunky. With our surname, most middle names sounded "too much".

mathanxiety · 06/03/2026 20:18

I agree with you, OP.

Rose is objectively a lovely name.

There are a lot of MNers who live their lives quite a distance up their own rear ends.

Manthide · 06/03/2026 20:16

I like the name Rose and at least it's a proper name not like Mae. None of my 4dc have middle names - it was difficult enough choosing a first name! All my gc have 3 names so perhaps they are compensating.

bruffin · 06/03/2026 20:15

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 18:55

@bruffin , I didn't say they haven't thought about them. They are fashionable and predictable.
Why do you say am I lacking in imagination?

But my dds middle name has always been fashionable as a middle name It was my Nans middle name back in 1912, and my DMs back in 1937 and DDs in 1997. You dont seem to have the imagination to underwhy people chose names other than to be fashionable

Laiste · 06/03/2026 20:14

The irony of asking why people can dislike a certain name and in the same post call other perfectly nice names 'clunky' !

My opinion is that there seems to be 101 girls with Rose as a middle name where ever you go at the moment, and for that reason i would not chose it. There's nothing wrong with it but it's everywhere. It feels like the name equivalent of Mrs Hinch silvery grey furnishings ...

<tin hat on>

ainsleysanob · 06/03/2026 20:10

I don’t dislike it I just find it very ‘meh’ cos it’s been used so much. Not unlike Grace or Louise in the 90’s.

I’m not keen on middle names though unless they’re in honour of someone

BigFishLittleFishCardboardBoxes · 06/03/2026 20:08

It’s just become boring. Because every Ava will be an Ava Rose or an Ava May or an Ava Grace.

Same with Olivia, Amelia, Evie, Mia, Poppy, Willow…

SwedishEdith · 06/03/2026 19:53

One of mine has it as middle name because it's her granny's middle name. And it's a lovely name. I wouldn't pick a family name if I didn't like it. I think, like Louise was (still is, tbh), it's popular because people like it. Familiar, gentle sound and flows easily from first name to surname.

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 19:47

Many on here always insist on giving a really clunky old fashioned middle name like Catherine, Elizabeth, Margaret etc after a family member or something but not everyone needs or wants to pick such names just for the sake of a family member and to potentially make the first name look uglier.
Those names are far nicer than Ava and Rose.

Catherine Elizabeth is lovely and fit for a future queen.
I don't like Ava at all and Rose is a bit wet.

Admittedly, Catherine Elizabeth is very 'safe' and classic, but it's not a name that is likely to be the Julie Anne/Tracy Jane/Emma Louise of it's generation

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 06/03/2026 19:45

No idea..It's my mums middle name. I think it's beautiful 😍

User56785 · 06/03/2026 19:40

It’s practically not a name because there are so many of them. The point of having a name is so people can distinguish between you and the bloke next to you. Evie/Ava/Ada/Ella Mae/May/Mia/Rose names are so popular.

DinoDances · 06/03/2026 19:17

I think you're being way meaner about the names you don't like, calling them clunky and saying they make the first name ugly than I've seen about Rose. People just comment that Rose is very popular (which is true), just like certain first names, and have a preference for a family middle name. I think Rose is super pretty, as is Elizabeth and Catherine. Just different tastes for different people, and at the end of the day you're just choosing a name you like just like the first name.

AprilinPortugal · 06/03/2026 19:15

Who cares? Ava Rose is a beautiful name! (My daughter has the middle name of Louise like loads of other girls of her generation - so what, no-one knows or cares! It's a middle name!

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 18:55

@bruffin , I didn't say they haven't thought about them. They are fashionable and predictable.
Why do you say am I lacking in imagination?

Butterflyvillage · 06/03/2026 18:51

I absolutely love the name Ava Rose. What a beautiful and elegant name! I may be a little biased, as I named my second daughter Georgia Rose. She asked me about it a few weeks ago, and I told her it’s because I think Rose🌹 is a wonderful name and the most beautiful flower. I also mentioned that I would be quite happy if she wants to be called Rose in the future, after all, I have used my middle name all my life because I dislike my first name!🌹😂

BoleynMemories13 · 06/03/2026 18:32

Personally I don't get the fuss over middle names. They're so rarely used. Some people love to use family names, some people pick something to flow/go with their first name choice and some people just pick something completely random which they like (maybe something a bit quirky or different which they weren't brave enough to use as a first name). Each to their own.

A pet hate of mine is when people warn other people off of a popular middle name choice on here, calling them 'filler names'. It really is nobody else's business what anyone else chooses as a middle name, especially when opinions aren't actually being sought. I see that a lot, where people are seeking advice on a first name and say "middle name will be x" and suddenly everyone is responding with "don't choose x as it's a boring filler name", when they have no idea why the OP is choosing it. Names like Rose and Grace were very popular in the early half of the 1900s so, for many people, those so called 'filler names' are actually family names anyway. Even if someone is just picking it because they like it and it 'goes', that's their prerogative.

Own your choice. Who cares what other people think?

bruffin · 06/03/2026 18:28

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 18:22

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.
You aren't biased because you liked the name before using it.

I think Rose as a middle name is twee and unimaginative, but I think that about all girl's filler middle names.

why do you think these names are fillers that people havent thought about, you are the one lacking imagination

user7538796538 · 06/03/2026 18:27

It’s okay, if a bit bland.
I wouldn't choose it, or other flowery names because to me it sounds bright, cheerful, light and summer like and thats a lot of pressure, what if they want to be a goth?! Or have a naturally standoffish manner.
I met a charming young girl called Willow recently, thats a lot of pressure to be slim! And Grace needs to be calm and have impeccable manners…it’s just tempting fate to have a name with an obvious meaning I think.

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 18:22

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.
You aren't biased because you liked the name before using it.

I think Rose as a middle name is twee and unimaginative, but I think that about all girl's filler middle names.