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Why is there so much dislike for the middle name rose on here?

166 replies

Bluewales · 06/03/2026 17:01

I called my daughter Ava Rose I think it’s very short and pretty and I chose rose for no particular reason other than I liked how it looked and sounded, which seems to be heavily looked down upon on here to choose rose just because it’s pretty and without family meaning but I don’t really understand why it matters. Rose is a filler i admit but it’s beautiful that’s why imo. Many on here always insist on giving a really clunky old fashioned middle name like Catherine, Elizabeth, Margaret etc after a family member or something but not everyone needs or wants to pick such names just for the sake of a family member and to potentially make the first name look uglier.

im clearly biased because of my own child’s name but seriously don’t understand why there’s seems to be a problem with wanting a pretty middle name instead of something super significant.

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RegalDiamondMonster · 12/03/2026 21:21

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 14:28

Because I've heard it all before about other filler middle names, @TheBirdintheCave .

Go back 30 years and nearly everybody seemed to have a granny called Louise.

I don't think it's lying, more a wider/looser interpretation of what a 'family name' is. Fashion+family connection.

So people hear the name Rose as a middle name, think it sounds pretty, realise 'Oh, that was my Great-Great Aunt's name/Granny's middle name/pops up a lot in the family tree on Ancestry'.

I think a lot of family names would be more popular though if they coincided with fashion/tastes. My Grandma's middle name was Doreen - she hated it, and I'm not going to be using it any time soon! Or my friend's middle name (which she also hated) after her grandma's first name - one of OP's 'clunky' names.

TheBirdintheCave · 11/03/2026 20:33

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 14:28

Because I've heard it all before about other filler middle names, @TheBirdintheCave .

Go back 30 years and nearly everybody seemed to have a granny called Louise.

Strange 🧐 In my year at school most people had Marie as their middle name (but I went to a Catholic school 😅).

Anyway, I love talking about my family history so if anyone questioned my ‘Rose credentials’ I’d happily whip out my Ancestry tree to show them 😂

SouthLondonMum22 · 11/03/2026 18:15

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 14:28

Because I've heard it all before about other filler middle names, @TheBirdintheCave .

Go back 30 years and nearly everybody seemed to have a granny called Louise.

It seems a weird thing to lie about.

I don't mind at all saying that my DD is Felicity Rose and if anyone asks about her middle name (which has only happened a few times, just after birth) I very easily said ''Oh, we just liked it because it sounds nice with Felicity''. No biggie at all.

Harassedmum123 · 11/03/2026 16:06

Every other child at my DC secondary school
is called Ava . It’s a nice enough name but there are so many of them . Rose/Mae/Grace will be the middle name of most of them too . It’s just so boring when there are so many other names out there.

Wicked123 · 11/03/2026 16:04

DinoDances · 06/03/2026 19:17

I think you're being way meaner about the names you don't like, calling them clunky and saying they make the first name ugly than I've seen about Rose. People just comment that Rose is very popular (which is true), just like certain first names, and have a preference for a family middle name. I think Rose is super pretty, as is Elizabeth and Catherine. Just different tastes for different people, and at the end of the day you're just choosing a name you like just like the first name.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Ava Rose is a pretty name but you’ve been offensive calling other names clunky. My daughter has Elizabeth as a middle name because it was important to me and I think it sounds classy with her first name…each to their own, why do you care so much what others think?

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 11/03/2026 15:14

I actually met the Rose in the case I was talking about - she was the baby's great- grandmother, who would have been well into her 90s, and I think it was short for something like Rosina but she had always preferred just Rose.

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 14:28

Because I've heard it all before about other filler middle names, @TheBirdintheCave .

Go back 30 years and nearly everybody seemed to have a granny called Louise.

TheBirdintheCave · 11/03/2026 13:57

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 11:50

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.
There are so many claims of it being after a relative called Rose, but there seem to very few Roses in the great-grandmother - mother age group.

Holly Rose is pretty but it's two plants.

You think people are lying about it? Why? 🤷🏻‍♀️

HugoThatway · 11/03/2026 11:50

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.
There are so many claims of it being after a relative called Rose, but there seem to very few Roses in the great-grandmother - mother age group.

Holly Rose is pretty but it's two plants.

reabies · 11/03/2026 09:58

I'm a mid-30s Something Rose, and I know at least 2 other women born within 12 months of me who have the exact same first name + Rose. It wasn't original back in the 90s and it's not original now.

But the one point that is kind of a running theme across all name threads is that different people value different things in names, and if 'being original' wasn't a consideration for OP using Rose as a middle name then all good, it's generally seen as a lovely name but just widespread. If you wanted to be so different, but are devastated to find every second girl is Something Rose, then I'd be commiserating because that's disappointing for you.

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/03/2026 20:10

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 08/03/2026 18:14

I think Rose is a pretty name in itself and the only reason some people are negative about it is because it's been so very popular as a middle name for quite a while. I'd be interested to know how many of those people have Jane, Elizabeth or Louise as a middle name!

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.

My middle name is Louise and DC's middle names are James, Grace & Rose. 😂

ChocolateCinderToffee · 10/03/2026 19:57

When I was at uni, half the women on my course had either Mary or Anne/Ann as a middle name. Rose is now the universal middle name for girls. It's very over-used.

HugoThatway · 10/03/2026 00:24

@Zennia , do you have any backup data about it being the most popular middle name? It certainly seems like it is.

Zennia · 10/03/2026 00:05

Snugs10 · 07/03/2026 09:27

My take is that subconsciously we connect it with travellers or gypsies.

It's literally the most popular middle name for girls in the country so I don't see how that can be the case.

Toomuchprivateinfo · 08/03/2026 21:22

I don’t dislike it but it’s boring because every other girl has the middle name Rose.

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 08/03/2026 18:14

I think Rose is a pretty name in itself and the only reason some people are negative about it is because it's been so very popular as a middle name for quite a while. I'd be interested to know how many of those people have Jane, Elizabeth or Louise as a middle name!

I know someone who fairly recently called a baby Holly Rose - and Rose was after a relative, so people shouldn't assume.

HugoThatway · 08/03/2026 17:26

@devilwoman669 , it's not in my DD's name. I don't like the name Rose.

devilwoman669 · 07/03/2026 20:02

HugoThatway · 06/03/2026 17:55

It's because it's so overused as a middle name. Any other girl will be Ava Rose, Ava May or Ava Grace or whatever the first name is.

My great granddaughter is called Harper Rose and I think it's a lovely name. Ignore anyone who says otherwise. If they don't like it that's their prerogative but you obviously do or you wouldn't have put it in your daughters name.

HugoThatway · 07/03/2026 15:27

Yet I know quite a few French people with hyphenated names as well.
They're acceptable but dated in France because of the naming restrictions they used to have.

Calliopespa · 07/03/2026 15:26

RosesAndHellebores · 07/03/2026 09:39

I'm not sure there were any Karens, Donnas, Sharons or Traceys dating back to the 15th Century and beyond.

Names like Rose, (derivative of Rosamund), Alice (often Alyce in the middle ages) Mary/Margaret (derivative May), Ann, Caroline, Eleanor, Catherine, Elizabeth, etc., have endured. Others of course have more patchy renaissance - Mabel, Edith, Hilda, Agnes, Maud.

I agree with this.

It is kind of my "litmus" for names I consider good choices: how far back do they date.

Calliopespa · 07/03/2026 15:21

caringcarer · 06/03/2026 18:21

I love the name Rose. It's pretty and feminine. I think it's a snobby thing to dislike it.

Or reverse snobbery!

My DC attend very posh schools and it is much embraced as a middle name amongst their friends.

The particular posters who go on about it being "boring" often suggest names I think are a bit 😬so there is an element of taste. I think where there can be a bit of snobbery is when it is a hyphenated first name, Like Macy-Rose, and that's because that kind of name is associated with being American.🙄Yet I know quite a few French people with hyphenated names as well.

Ultimately the criticism is that it is overused - a bit like Louise and Jane once were.

And so it is, but names tend to become overused because they are pretty, versatile and people like them. I can't see a problem with overused for a middle name. To me having something that compliments the first name is a good object, and Rose, like Jane and Louise, does that very well with many names.

I think it's lovely Op. I wouldn't worry. Anything not made up or yooneek is a good place to start I think!

HugoThatway · 07/03/2026 13:29

Oh right. You needn't feel sorry. It's just a pointless filler name that my aunt suggested. My aunt's own name would have been far better, if they really wanted to use one.
You won't change my mind about filler middle names.

Butterflyvillage · 07/03/2026 13:17

HugoThatway · 07/03/2026 13:08

@Butterflyvillage , unless your middle name is Rose, is it relevant?
My middle name was so naff and was a 'you can't just call her Sarah, why don't you call her Sarah Jane' job. Why did they even bother?

Yes it is relevant as I mentioned before my dd2 has Rose as a middle name and likes it. I am also arguing that middle names in general are not pointless because I have used mine my whole life and love it. Sorry your middle name is "so naff" that you hate it!

HugoThatway · 07/03/2026 13:08

@Butterflyvillage , unless your middle name is Rose, is it relevant?
My middle name was so naff and was a 'you can't just call her Sarah, why don't you call her Sarah Jane' job. Why did they even bother?

Butterflyvillage · 07/03/2026 13:01

Middle names often get dismissed as “unnecessary extras,” but for many people like me they’re the name that truly fits. I’ve used mine for over 50 years because I love it so much that I sometimes forget I even have a first name! The only time it surprises me is booking airline tickets and seeing my legal first name. I’m so grateful I had the choice, because I absolutely love my middle name. So no, I don’t agree that middle names are pointless, and just because “Rose” as a middle name is so popular, seen as dated, or considered boring is not a valid argument against it!

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