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A Welsh middle name for Alice

103 replies

LolaBumble · 14/01/2026 20:59

Another thread from me! Please help me decide on a Welsh middle name

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DanDin · 18/01/2026 19:03

@MedievalNun Thanks. I searched for it and only got glamping site with an annoying contact form. It might be a local name.

OP probably isn't called Bumble but I used it as a surname. I know a few Nons and wouldn't think anything if I saw Alys Non Davies, but would if I saw Alice Non Davidson.

I've worked with 2 women called Ceri - one from SW and one from NW, and they both said the same. They said Serry, Cherry, Surrey, Surree, Cherie. Weird.

... if they can manage Siobhan, Niamh or Saorse.. but they don't quite get those right and it's Saoirse.

I've found it! Erwain is meadowsweet (Filipendula ulmaria).

MedievalNun · 18/01/2026 17:56

DanDin · 18/01/2026 13:36

Erwain? Not seen or heard that before not even as a word. Would get said as Ur-wayne.

I know more than one Ceri who says it gets mispronounced. (Serry, Cherry, Cherie)

Eirian - gets said as Erry-un.

Lowri is lovely but gets said as Lowry like the painter.

Non - lovely but not sure it would work. Alice Non Bumble?

Erwain was quite common up here (NW Wales) in the 60s, 70s and 80s. We had a couple in school.

None of the Eirian’s (and there were 4 in my year) seem to have had any problems, including the two who now live in Laaaandan - apparently it ended up as Ay - reen once or twice but ok after that 😉

As for Ceri being mispronounced, even my relatively easy first name has been mangled so many times (mine is one of the ones being mentioned as a favourite) that I just shrug now.

I just tell people. I figure if they can manage Siobhan, Niamh or Saorse then they can damn well learn to pronounce Welsh names too.

But Alice Non Bumble doesn’t work. I’d not noticed the last name.

DanDin · 18/01/2026 13:44

@LolaBumble , not Welsh but how about Alice Penelope?

DanDin · 18/01/2026 13:36

Erwain? Not seen or heard that before not even as a word. Would get said as Ur-wayne.

I know more than one Ceri who says it gets mispronounced. (Serry, Cherry, Cherie)

Eirian - gets said as Erry-un.

Lowri is lovely but gets said as Lowry like the painter.

Non - lovely but not sure it would work. Alice Non Bumble?

MedievalNun · 18/01/2026 12:39

You also have:
Carwen
Iola
Iorwen
Ceri
Non
Eirian
Erwain
Lowri
Eleri

All of those would go with Alys, and most would be easy enough for non-Welsh speakers

Blushingm · 18/01/2026 12:31

Delyth?
Anwen
Bethan
Betsan

VikaOlson · 18/01/2026 12:30

Alys Nansi

DanDin · 18/01/2026 12:24

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 17/01/2026 22:37

Carisa is “sweety or darling” it is not a name .

@Ritasueandbobtoo9 , I think that was an autocorrect but Cariad is one of:
darling
love
sweetheart
charity
girlfriend
boyfriend.

It's probably said as 'Carry-ad - it's Welsh for Love' by the proud parents. (It's pronounced 'CARR-yad')

@Foggytree , Tegan is Welsh for toy.

Sunshineandrainbows23 · 18/01/2026 00:45

GandTtwice · 14/01/2026 21:40

Of the list I'd go with Seren but I think Alice Siân would be a nice pairing

My thoughts too. I like Seren, but think a one syllable middle name would flow better. Sian was my first thought :)

Foggytree · 18/01/2026 00:42

Awen
Carwen
Bronwen
Tegan

mathanxiety · 18/01/2026 00:38

Alice Lowri?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 17/01/2026 22:37

Carisa is “sweety or darling” it is not a name .

DanDin · 17/01/2026 17:23

... is called Cariad. I think it's such a lovely name
I think it's blimmin' awful.

anicecuppateaandayummyshortbreadbiscuit · 17/01/2026 17:05

Alice Cariad

My friend's granddaughter is called Cariad. I think it's such a lovely name 💖

DanDin · 17/01/2026 16:25

@stample , Arwen is from Lord of the Rings.

Blushingm · 17/01/2026 16:21

Savoretti · 14/01/2026 21:11

Alice Eleri sounds like Celery

That’s not how Eleri is pronounced - it doesn’t rhyme with celery

stample · 17/01/2026 16:03

Alice Arwen!

DanDin · 17/01/2026 15:35

@Jugendstiel , Eleri doesn't rhyme with celery. It rhymes with Kerry. It's El-ERR-y.

** There's a character called Eleri on Pobol y Cwm. All the characters, including Eleri, apart from Dani say it as El-erry.
There's also a minor character called Eleri on Rownd a Rownd, and she's El-erry too.

Jugendstiel · 17/01/2026 14:59

I love Seren but the two S sounds aren't good together.
Alice Eleri = Ali celery - not good.

Like PP I love the Welsh spelling Alys. I quite like a double A: Alice Angharad
Or Alys Rhiannon

DanDin · 17/01/2026 14:54

@Relaxd , bad spelling of Bronwen. The -wyn is masculine.

WinterSonnet · 17/01/2026 14:51

Hands down, Mabli for me. I LOVE this name so much.

I am Welsh but live in Europe and both of my DD's have names I chose, but Mabli was vetoed - which I understood.

Relaxd · 17/01/2026 14:46

Alice Bronwyn

ShipshapeShore · 17/01/2026 14:45

Alys Nia is gorgeous. Or Alice. Nia gets my vote, it's lovely.

BobbyBrewstersMagicTorch · 17/01/2026 14:42

Rhiannon

DanDin · 17/01/2026 14:40

deepseaargyllfish · 17/01/2026 13:54

Bronwen and Dilys are proper Welsh names. They’re beautiful, traditional and the pronunciation is obvious.

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@dontletmedownbruce , I'm not sure they are traditional. Dilys is a virtue name and I think it was only popular in the 1st half of the 20th century. Branwen is traditional but Bronwen is more common.

Spelling and pronunciation isn't much of an issue with middle names. Both of those are likely to be misspelt (Bronwyn and Dylis). They're proper Welsh names but so was OP's list. They are both great-grannyish.

Mali - Most of us know it from Sali Mali, which has been around since the 1960s. Names like Mali are in my family tree.

Mabli sounds similarly ‘new’ and is a bit too close to Chablis. - new to you. I think it's from the Mabinogion.

Angharad - I know lots of Angharads or Something Angharads. I also know a lot of Eleris or Something Eleris. Names get a bit meh when you know so many of them. It doesn't help that both of the names get 'anglicised'. (I dislike Ann Harrud and El-airy**)