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Can someone explain the term ‘try hard’ in the context of baby names.

207 replies

Redcst · 08/12/2025 10:17

As the title says. I’m reading the threads and someone always uses the term ‘try hard’ to give their opinion on a name. I genuinely don’t know what this means?

it seems to be a derogatory term or even a euphemism?

I get if you love, like, dislike a name. I also appreciate names considered classics or historically posh etc but try hard I just don’t understand.

just curious

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BunnyLake · 08/12/2025 19:44

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 19:09

Shouldn’t we all encourage more and not less name diversity? Makes life much more interesting and names more memorable. How boring if we’re all called Jack Smith or Olivia Taylor etc.

Obviously we shouldn’t inflict cruel names on our children like Willy, Poohead or Princess Tiaami - those are indeed stupid. I don’t know why posters assume those are the only alternatives to overused top100 names…?

I do actually think we are much better at having a wider range of names than when I was growing up. My kids are in their early twenties and they never found it odd when kids had unusual names. There were some where I thought, oh that’s a bit out there but they just took them in their stride.

BunnyLake · 08/12/2025 19:40

MimiGC · 08/12/2025 17:30

Geez, what did poor little Blight do to be saddled with that name?!

He’ll probably change it to Brian when he’s older 😁

DuchessOfNarcissex · 08/12/2025 19:27

They aren't lovely names. The children are fine bit the names are very unusual and quite harsh sounding. I can't say what they are because they are too out-there. You get used to the names but the general consensus was 'Why on earth have they picked that?' (or words to that effect).

An example might be Igraine or Thirza.
Parents are something like David and Sarah.

Redcst · 08/12/2025 19:09

DuchessOfNarcissex · 08/12/2025 18:57

@Mariammaom , the parents I know who have unusually-named children have very ordinary names themselves.
The names aren't lovely.

Wow

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Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 19:09

Shouldn’t we all encourage more and not less name diversity? Makes life much more interesting and names more memorable. How boring if we’re all called Jack Smith or Olivia Taylor etc.

Obviously we shouldn’t inflict cruel names on our children like Willy, Poohead or Princess Tiaami - those are indeed stupid. I don’t know why posters assume those are the only alternatives to overused top100 names…?

DuchessOfNarcissex · 08/12/2025 18:57

@Mariammaom , the parents I know who have unusually-named children have very ordinary names themselves.
The names aren't lovely.

Redcst · 08/12/2025 18:54

😱I didn’t expect this question to get so much traction!
I’m still none the wiser to the definition apart from it being used as a derogatory term.

Our little girl is called Skylar. 💓 we certainly weren’t try to be unique or different.

in our antenatal group lots of different names and I think everyone of the babies suits their name. I’ve never judged a name before but naming babies seems an emotive subject on MN

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Floundering66 · 08/12/2025 18:52

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 14:32

Trying hard to find a beautiful name that’s not overused is surely NOT the same as giving your child a ‘ridiculous’ name?!

What constitutes a ‘ridiculous’ name in your opinion? Princessina Salami or Willibert Poo? Those are ridiculous indeed.

Try-hard names are beautiful underused names that the parents’ ACTUALLY did try hard to find.

I think people sometimes just try too hard to be different and it does end up being a bit silly and “try hard”. Examples I’ve heard recently would be Onyx and Zephyr. I’m sure they are beautiful to the people who chose them, but to me they are cringey and I inwardly rolled my eyes on hearing them!

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 17:48

The amount of assumptions some posters on here are making about why parents choose names is actually hilarious! It says so much more about them than the parents who actually try hard to find lovely names for their children!

MrsMoastyToasty · 08/12/2025 17:44

In my mind "try hard" is like calling your child Ferret because " it's a nature name, innit?" rather than an established nature name.

Blueleaf837 · 08/12/2025 17:42

ResusciAnnie · 08/12/2025 17:34

There’s an ‘Otterley’ at DD’s nursery 🙃🙃🙃🙃

😬😬😬😬

ResusciAnnie · 08/12/2025 17:34

Blueleaf837 · 08/12/2025 17:26

For me it’s names like Bodhi as I imagine the parent trying a but hard to be cool and different. But it’s actually quite popular now which always seems to happen. Ottilie too. Rare names I love so it’s not really that.

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There’s an ‘Otterley’ at DD’s nursery 🙃🙃🙃🙃

MimiGC · 08/12/2025 17:30

VikaOlson · 08/12/2025 11:12

I think 'try hard' is usually used when the name is trying hard to be very cool or unique - stuff like Jagger, or I read an article today and the poor kids were named Blight and Rothko.

Geez, what did poor little Blight do to be saddled with that name?!

Blueleaf837 · 08/12/2025 17:30

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 17:26

Why are you assuming that ‘trying hard to find a name’ means it’s necessarily a ridiculous and stupid made up name?

i don’t think ‘trying hard to find a name’ is what try hard means. It’s trying hard to find a ‘cool’ name that makes us look like cool parents

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 17:26

Doone22 · 08/12/2025 16:29

Tbh it's just people who put themselves first (as in this will show the world how cool I am)and consideration for their child last (as in it doesn't matter if it's a made up word, stupid spelling or ridiculous choice they're going to love to live with it)

Why are you assuming that ‘trying hard to find a name’ means it’s necessarily a ridiculous and stupid made up name?

Blueleaf837 · 08/12/2025 17:26

For me it’s names like Bodhi as I imagine the parent trying a but hard to be cool and different. But it’s actually quite popular now which always seems to happen. Ottilie too. Rare names I love so it’s not really that.

Mariammaom · 08/12/2025 17:23

BerryTwister · 08/12/2025 16:08

@MysteryNameChange I assume your son has a slightly pretentious wannabe upper class name, or something hippy-esque, which will be fine in his middle class Oftsed outstanding school. But what if he wants to become a plumber, or mechanic, or join the army? Will he have the piss taken out of him? Do you care? Or was it more important that you gave him a name you thought reflected well on you, and made you seem more wacky and interesting?

Why are plumbers or car mechanics more likely to be so narrow minded and rude as to ‘take the piss’ out of a colleague’s name???

I’m so glad we live in an open minded diverse areas where most people, whether they’re tradesmen or not, are open minded and kind.

I wonder where you live and how you raise your children that they grow up ‘to take the piss’ out of their mates and make fun of their names.

OneBookTooMany · 08/12/2025 17:08

I did leave out Grimshaw. I wonder if this is why some of our Wigan neighbours aren't as impressed by our Blackpool heritage as they should be.

I might adopt Grimshaw as a nickname for her or re-name the dog-thanks for pointing this out!

BunnyLake · 08/12/2025 17:07

OneBookTooMany · 08/12/2025 16:49

My great grandfather once went to Blackpool on a day trip and so I called my daughter, Albert Ramsbottom Wallace Stanley Holloway,

I feel it honours the Blackpool heritage that our great grandfather bestowed on us.

We were not sure how to spell Holloway-one L or two- but that really doesn't matter and so we vary it. It's only a minor detail, after all Shakespeare spelled his name in various ways!

We are from Wigan and and a welcome side effect of this brilliant idea is that it lets our neighbours know that we are not as boringly pedestrian as them.

We also let them see us with copies of The Guardian and we do not use it to wrap wet fish.

You left out Grimshaw 😁

OneBookTooMany · 08/12/2025 16:49

My great grandfather once went to Blackpool on a day trip and so I called my daughter, Albert Ramsbottom Wallace Stanley Holloway,

I feel it honours the Blackpool heritage that our great grandfather bestowed on us.

We were not sure how to spell Holloway-one L or two- but that really doesn't matter and so we vary it. It's only a minor detail, after all Shakespeare spelled his name in various ways!

We are from Wigan and and a welcome side effect of this brilliant idea is that it lets our neighbours know that we are not as boringly pedestrian as them.

We also let them see us with copies of The Guardian and we do not use it to wrap wet fish.

SirChenjins · 08/12/2025 16:41

BunnyLake · 08/12/2025 16:25

Well you certainly seem to have a unique sense of humour. I can’t see anything remotely chortle worthy there. So what if one was Italian and the other wasn’t! 🤷‍♀️ If I had been the Italian mother I would have been very interested and would have chatted to other mother about the name and enjoyed the fact the name had appeal outside Italy.

Out of interest what nationality is that chip on your shoulder? Is it a chip or a French Fry😁

I already explained the humour. However, as humour is subjective I don't expect you to agree or otherwise - it's of no consequence to me.

Calliopespa · 08/12/2025 16:29

BauhausOfEliott · 08/12/2025 15:31

It always makes me laugh when I see people mocking certain baby names on here as 'try-hard' or similar because ultimately, ALL baby name choices are trying hard to be something. A middle-class parent who calls their child Ottilie or Raphael is 'trying' just as hard as a working class parent who calls their child Lilly-Mae or Jaxon, as are parents across the board who call their children George, Emily, Henry and Charlotte.

And actually trying isn't the greatest evil.

As an aside, gosh so many threads are getting crabby lately. Is it the lack of sunlight or what?

Doone22 · 08/12/2025 16:29

Tbh it's just people who put themselves first (as in this will show the world how cool I am)and consideration for their child last (as in it doesn't matter if it's a made up word, stupid spelling or ridiculous choice they're going to love to live with it)

BunnyLake · 08/12/2025 16:25

SirChenjins · 08/12/2025 14:43

You have given names that are anglicised. However, if you're going to honour a long dead relative and call your child something like Anatoliy because you think it makes you sound more interesting (it doesn't) then yes, own it and your claim to be linked to that culture. Otherwise you just seem ignorant.

I'm always reminded of my friend from years ago who gave her dc an unusual Italian name. No connection to Italy, no adherence to the customs or culture - she and her DC just thought it was a unique name. That lasted until the first day of nursery when a little boy from an Italian family pitched up with the same name. They were the only children in the class with the same names- was v funny.

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Well you certainly seem to have a unique sense of humour. I can’t see anything remotely chortle worthy there. So what if one was Italian and the other wasn’t! 🤷‍♀️ If I had been the Italian mother I would have been very interested and would have chatted to other mother about the name and enjoyed the fact the name had appeal outside Italy.

Out of interest what nationality is that chip on your shoulder? Is it a chip or a French Fry😁

BerryTwister · 08/12/2025 16:08

MysteryNameChange · 08/12/2025 14:15

I don't associate with people who snigger behind closed doors at peoples names, and I would judge that behaviour harshly in a professional environment.

I live in a poncy lefty liberal area I 100% wouldn't raise an eyebrow at a boy Saffron. There's a definite shift towards gender neutral names too for younger kids here too.

My son has a bit of an out there name and I admit it might be a problem in a rough school, it would have been in the school I went to, but I'm not going to send him to a shit secondary school.

@MysteryNameChange I assume your son has a slightly pretentious wannabe upper class name, or something hippy-esque, which will be fine in his middle class Oftsed outstanding school. But what if he wants to become a plumber, or mechanic, or join the army? Will he have the piss taken out of him? Do you care? Or was it more important that you gave him a name you thought reflected well on you, and made you seem more wacky and interesting?