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Diaeresis

89 replies

MauriceTheMussel · 13/10/2025 11:08

Any experience with a name with diaeresis, please? Is it a pain on forms? Does a passport exclude them etc?

Secondly, would it be “correct” to have diaeresis on Raphael?

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itbemay1 · 13/10/2025 17:40

I don’t think it’s needed with Raphael. Maybe with zoë. Pain in bum though and I reckon it will just get left off.

OSTMusTisNT · 13/10/2025 17:31

Might be worth checking with local council as I don't think you can have that on a birth certificate in UK, generally hyphens and apostrophes(e.g Mia-Rose and Bob O'Marley) are permitted but nothing else.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/10/2025 17:31

DiscoBob · 13/10/2025 11:30

It sounds like a cross between diaohrea and dialysis? Horrible sounding and I don't think it is actually a name is it? It sounds totally made up like a pound shop Game of Thrones knock off.

@MauriceTheMussel isn’t suggesting using it as a name, @DiscoBob - it is a mark placed over a vowel - Zoë instead of Zoe, for example - it means both vowels are pronounced.

ParmaVioletTea · 13/10/2025 17:28

MauriceTheMussel · 13/10/2025 11:08

Any experience with a name with diaeresis, please? Is it a pain on forms? Does a passport exclude them etc?

Secondly, would it be “correct” to have diaeresis on Raphael?

If it's Raphael, I would say it would eventually be dropped anyway - Raphael is pretty much universally pronounced in English as
Raff-ay-ell

It's not like the upward mobiity aspirations of the Brontë family, who were "Brunty" two generations before the talented sisters wrote - I think it was their father, Patrick who gentrified "Brunty" to "Bronte" to "Brontë" which indicates that the final vowel ë is pronounced cloer to "ay" than "eh".

ResusciAnnie · 13/10/2025 17:27

W0tnow · 13/10/2025 11:18

😂

My daughter is Zoe. I deliberately didn’t have one. People know how to say her name as it’s common enough. Is the name you’re considering commonly known?

I have a Zoë - her brother is Joseph so yes we have a diaeresis. Plus I think they’re cööl.

OP it has caused the grand sum of zero issues so far. She’s only 3 but birth cert, passport, doctors, hospital, school applications, general life - zero issues.

I reeeeally fucking hope the people thinking it’s a name are joking. God help us 🤣

TheWytch · 13/10/2025 17:27

MauriceTheMussel · 13/10/2025 17:21

Oooh, did the circumflex make it on to your passport?

I don’t mind the diaeresis not being on passports and driving licences but I would like it on the birth certificate, but worried about how that may or may not translate to other docs. Essentially, if it were ok the birth certificate but not on anything else official, totally fine. I’d still handwrite and text and whatnot the diaeresis version.

Sadly not - the "little roof" is confined to the birth certificate. I do use it if I am handwriting but never when I'm typing which is 99% of the time now. It appears on all official documents as y rather than ŷ

Millionsofmonkeys · 13/10/2025 17:26

DD is a Zoë. She and we like the diaresis but it does tend to get left off things like labels in school (she goes around adding the dots!)

As long as you accept that people may not use it, I think it is "proper" (and somehow makes the name prettier to my eyes!)

Btw you would be surprised at how many people (supply teachers!) call her "Zo" to rhyme with toe...

Missey85 · 13/10/2025 17:26

God it's too close to diahroea 🤮 don't name your kid that

ParmaVioletTea · 13/10/2025 17:24

But maybe you were joking ? oopsBlushGrin

ParmaVioletTea · 13/10/2025 17:24

RaraRachael · 13/10/2025 11:13

Never heard of it before. Sounds too much like diarrhoea for it to be a name.

Um it's not a name. It's punctuation: Umlaut in German .

MauriceTheMussel · 13/10/2025 17:21

TheWytch · 13/10/2025 17:19

I have a "to bach" (circumflex) in my name. It was handwritten on my (typed) birth certificate but doesn't appear on any other documents.

I generally leave it off anyway.

Oooh, did the circumflex make it on to your passport?

I don’t mind the diaeresis not being on passports and driving licences but I would like it on the birth certificate, but worried about how that may or may not translate to other docs. Essentially, if it were ok the birth certificate but not on anything else official, totally fine. I’d still handwrite and text and whatnot the diaeresis version.

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QuantumLeek · 13/10/2025 17:21

I would assume you were French if you used it. Definitely not needed in the English form of the name and obviously not in the Italian. Why not make life easy?

itsgettingweird · 13/10/2025 17:19

My ds has a diacritic over his name.

we used it for forms because most were handwritten when he was smaller!

we Don’t tend to use it for typed forms and it isn’t on his current passport.

MauriceTheMussel · 13/10/2025 17:19

Mischance · 13/10/2025 17:12

  1. Diuresis = increased or excessive production of urine.
I know there is one letter different but really is this what you want for your child?

Dear god

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TheWytch · 13/10/2025 17:19

I have a "to bach" (circumflex) in my name. It was handwritten on my (typed) birth certificate but doesn't appear on any other documents.

I generally leave it off anyway.

CurlewKate · 13/10/2025 17:15

My brother sadly abandoned his fada after many years-it was just too much hassle in the end.

Mischance · 13/10/2025 17:12
  1. Diuresis = increased or excessive production of urine.
I know there is one letter different but really is this what you want for your child?
throwawayusrname · 13/10/2025 17:09

It’s a PITA having accent or punctuation in your name, I have one, some websites won’t accept it, others won’t accept the name without it.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 13/10/2025 17:03

I've heard some bad names suggested on here but this is the shittiest.

Calliopespa · 13/10/2025 17:01

ComfortFoodCafe · 13/10/2025 11:17

Sounds to much like diarrhoea, that poor kid will have the piss taken out of them at school. Dont do it.

😂

I love that people are thinking this is a name suggestion! Just goes to show the types of names we sometimes field!

DramaLlamacchiato · 13/10/2025 16:56

babyproblems · 13/10/2025 11:22

I think it will just get left off tbh!

This

My niece’s name I think has one. I’ve never used it

KnightandDay · 13/10/2025 16:42

CalzoneOnLegs · 13/10/2025 16:13

‘Wind’ up

What is?
Wind 💨 or
Wind🧵

CalzoneOnLegs · 13/10/2025 16:13

‘Wind’ up

ChocolateCinderToffee · 13/10/2025 16:12

I think you'd have to leave it off online forms, but no reason why you can't use it in handwritten things. I know someone with a circumflex on her name who did this.

weegiemum · 13/10/2025 15:40

My dh has an umlaut in his first name (German parent). He doesn’t use it much as in the uk things like passports and driving licence don’t accept it. He doesn’t use however does sign himself off as ü (for example on the end of a text instead of an x) which he likes as it looks like a smiley face. Luckily the slightly rude sounding surname doesn’t have any accents on it!

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