Should I call my daughter Aoibhín in England?

Not a good idea

Go for Sadhbh

Absolutely not. I have sent my whole life having to explain how to pronounce my name and people still don't always remember. Its even more annoying explaining it to people you will never meet sgain. It just makes things very awkward and annoying for all involved

She will constantly have to correct people and spell it if she lives outside of Ireland. That is what you are choosing for her.

It’s a bit weird that people are insisting that where your parents were born is more important than where you were born as for as deciding your “home nation”.

What happens if your parents are born in different home countries? Are you stateless??!?!

There is no consistent test for each “home nationess”. You would be eligible to represent either England (your country of birth) or Scotland (parent’s country of birth) at the Commonwealth games if you wished (and could get selected). If you had a grandad born in Wales then you might be eligible to represent Wales as well depending on the sport.😂

This is something that we are quite interested in as a family as Dh and I have (complicated) links to several of the home nations and have a child who competes at top level of sport. Dh and I met competing at top level of a different sport. Dd’s eligibility to represent the various home nations is different (less!) with the sport she competes at with than if we had pushed her into the sport we met doing. (What I am saying is that a (eg) Scottish grandad means that she is eligible to represent Scotland at (eg) hockey but not (eg) netball! As each sport can define its own eligibility and netball is more pure about Scottishness than hockey,)

Why are people being so rude and horrible? I see Persephone being suggested as a lovely name for a baby on here all the time yet I had to look up the spelling of it and have no idea how to pronounce it and think it looks horrible too! And it’s not even an English name it’s Greek!

Beautiful bame abd go for it if you love it.

People can learn how to say unfamiliar names.

Why would you choose to burden your child with this? The number of times she’ll have to spell it, correct people’s pronunciation, have to listen to people misread it, have it written down incorrectly and generally just have to explain details about her name will be draining in no time and will continue throughout her whole life in the UK.

Be kind to her and find something people can at least recognise.

@gavisconismyfriend Welsh has sounds that don't occur in English, many of the names aren't a case of correcting someone once. Some of the fairly straightforward ones get mis-stressed. I'm not sure if the Irish sounds all have English equivalents. Saoirse might get said as Sersha or See-uh-sha.

This was my first guess A-hoy- bin and kids can be really cruel when it comes to names.

Forget to say they have the a sound at the end of the name!

What about Clodagh or Laoise?

No. It’s not about what you like or want. It’s about you child and their entire life! The fact you’re asking answers you own question.
It’s not that you’re wrong. It’s just not right

Obnoxious! But of course it's against Irish so it doesn't matter 🤬

Rude!!

I've just read "should i call my daughter GHWQJKBCD".

I love it 😻

I am a fluent Irish speaker, live outside of Ireland, and have three children with Irish names.

You are mispronouncing this name.
It is, definitively, Ee Veen.

The Ee sound is identical to that of your other daughter Aoife. This is unsurprising as they both derive from the same word, aoibh (pronounced "eve") meaning beautiful.

This would be like having two girls and calling them Paula and Pauline.

It's a lovely name and it's not difficult for a non-Irish-speaker to enunciate, but the above responses show that it is difficult to read/ spell/ correctly guess.

The fada will sadly be abandoned in most systems.

But the real reason not to use it is that it is very VERY close to the other (lovely) name you already chose.

We wouldn’t claim you anyway.

It’s bizarre that someone would be so hostile to their own ethnicity.

I guess we all experience things differently. I grew up in the 70s/80s in England with a similarly unusual Irish name and, for me, it just wasn’t a big deal if people got it wrong. It wasn’t intentional on their part and most people were interested to learn if you were polite in explaining.

Yes, there are different dialects of Irish and sometimes names are pronounced differently depending on dialect.
Not in this case however.

Aoibh is pronounced Eve in all dialects of Irish.

She won't thank you. I should know, my name is Gearóidín. Even just pissing about on the keyboard to get the fadas is a pain in the arse, let alone explaining it to others every single bloody time.

Grow up. I’m embarrassed for you.

How about Aoibhin but have her known as Aiveen? I think a lot of schools now have both the formal name and the "known as" names in the register. He schoolfriends won't need to write it down.

When she's older she can just use Aoibhin and people can just be told how to pronounce her name.

I know someone from Ireland whose name is quite familiar in English. Here she used an English spelling: now she's back working in Ireland she uses the Irish spelling. I don't know how it appears on formal documents.

I have one name on my birth certificate and a shortened version of it which I'm known by. At work and on my bank account I use the shortened name - I'm only known by the long one in the public sector, eg to the NHS and HMRC. When your DD is older she can choose which she likes to use. .

It would literally be a life of mispronunciation and people not being able to spell it.