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Husband is trying to back out of naming agreement

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ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 18:44

I'm looking for opinions on this situation. When I was pregnant with our first child, we could not agree on a name. Our tastes are just too different. At the time, I knew that our child was going to end up with a dull compromise name that neither of us would be keen on if we couldn't think of something else. Because of this, I decided to make an agreement with DH that he could name our first child any (first + middle) name that he wanted as long as I would be able to name our second child any (first + middle) name that I wanted. All went well, and he chose our first child's name. I didn't like the name he chose but never tried to interfere due to the agreement.

I'm now pregnant with our second child. I have chosen the name and told DH what it is. He is now trying to back out of the agreement. His argument is that this is an "extreme exception". He hates the name, so he should be able to veto it. My viewpoint is that it doesn't matter that he doesn't like the name. He shouldn't have agreed to this arrangement if he wasn't going to honour it. I'm not going to compromise when the point of the agreement was to avoid doing so.

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mumuseli · 20/07/2025 08:26

99bottlesofkombucha · 20/07/2025 07:15

I vote (francesca) Frankie and olive for what it’s worth, after you’ve put your foot down and told him if he hasn’t signed to rename olive to something you like you will be going ahead and naming your second baby as agreed.

Oh and I believe Drew Barrymore’s daughters are called Frankie and Olive! So she must feel they ‘go’ together 😌

Mildorado · 20/07/2025 08:24

Sounds like the recipe for a happy family life!

Karatema · 20/07/2025 08:19

When it comes down to it whoever gets to the registry office first, that will be the child’s name.
Be warned!

Spaghettihair · 20/07/2025 08:08

So he’s vetoed Mary, Kate, Mary-Kate, Patrick and Kieran?

Sounds like he just wants to name both his daughters himself. Legally if there’s a dispute the mother chooses so he can be grateful he named your eldest imho and get used to Mary-Kate

AhBiscuits · 20/07/2025 08:05

I have some sympathy with DH, as I would struggle to accept your names, but a deal is a deal. Can you let him pick which one is first?

NotDarkGothicMama · 20/07/2025 08:02

Those names are completely fine. Your DH needs to get over it.

Edit to add: if it had been something terrible like Witch-Queen OfEvil, then I'd see his point.

Tiswa · 20/07/2025 08:01

We had it similar DH loved a girls name and I didn’t have anything to offer back I loved more the agreement then was I named DS

unfortunately we had a large age gap and DD loved a name that coincidentally happened to be DH middle name and a name he liked and I liked (boys names for me are much easier and I got the middle name) - DS loves the fact DD named him even now at 12. But DH would have gone along with me

As it happens DD shortened her name with a more unique spelling at aged 3. That has stuck and is very much her name.

brunettemic · 20/07/2025 07:55

You’re both idiots. Stupid agreement and you should have said something when you didn’t like the first name. We took ages to sort names for DS but we got there in the end.

UnderCoverB0ss · 20/07/2025 07:54

What a ridiculous agreement in the first place. There are millions of names and yet you claim you can’t agree on any. Try harder.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/07/2025 07:49

prelovedusername · 20/07/2025 07:40

Could people stop saying Olive is a horrible name? It’s the name of her first child, she already says she doesn’t like it. The OP needs to learn to love her first child’s name (which btw I genuinely do), she didn’t ask for opinions and you’re not helping.

OP, I wouldn’t hold him to this agreement for the sake of it. You already know what happens when one of you doesn’t like the other’s name choice. There must be one you both like?

I also think that choosing such different non matching names could be problematic for your girls. People who like one seem not to like the other, and that might be the case for your daughters too.

Edited

There obviously wasn't a name they both liked when naming their first child which is why they agreed to this arrangement of each naming one of their children. OP's DH agreed to that and he got the first child which gave him an advantage as they might not have been able to have a second child.

He is being both childish and dictatorial, reneging on the agreement which suited him at the time. His choice of names was more 'extreme' than OP's so he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He may not 'love' OP's choices, but they are perfectly normal names that won't raise any eyebrows. OP should stick to her guns. It's her turn to choose and her DH can suck it up like she had to.

prelovedusername · 20/07/2025 07:40

Could people stop saying Olive is a horrible name? It’s the name of her first child, she already says she doesn’t like it. The OP needs to learn to love her first child’s name (which btw I genuinely do), she didn’t ask for opinions and you’re not helping.

OP, I wouldn’t hold him to this agreement for the sake of it. You already know what happens when one of you doesn’t like the other’s name choice. There must be one you both like?

I also think that choosing such different non matching names could be problematic for your girls. People who like one seem not to like the other, and that might be the case for your daughters too.

BrownRedPink · 20/07/2025 07:35

On another note, I must say that I can't believe how many pp are saying that they find the husband's choices lovely. I've seen how brutal and picky MN can be when it comes to baby names. If someone made a regular baby name thread stating that they wanted to name their daughter Olive Athena or Calliope Theodora (especially this one), majority of MNers would be suggesting that they need to be sectioned for even thinking of it (bit dramatic but you get what I mean). Why the discrepancy? 🤔

sesquipedalian · 20/07/2025 07:25

Calliope is the muse of music, song and dance. I knew a Calliope, who was always known as Poppy. Having said that, if you had an agreement with your DH and you accepted his choice of names, then he should accept yours. No question about it. If you have a third child, then you can start arguing!

Cocktailsandcheese · 20/07/2025 07:24

Calliope Theodora?! Christ, what a mouthful.
I do agree that Maty-Kate is very 90s American, and I personally don't like hyphenated names. But it's difficult to object to Francesca, it's a lovely name and even if it's not his taste, it's a perfectly "normal" name. They could be Liv and Frankie when they're older, which is a nice combo. I'd stick to your guns, but use Francesca the first name, especially as you've said you don't mind which way round the names go.

99bottlesofkombucha · 20/07/2025 07:15

I vote (francesca) Frankie and olive for what it’s worth, after you’ve put your foot down and told him if he hasn’t signed to rename olive to something you like you will be going ahead and naming your second baby as agreed.

TheGreenUser · 20/07/2025 07:06

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 21:20

I was hesitant to share the names because I didn't want them skewing opinions but will.

The name that he chose is Olive Athena.
The name that I've chosen is Mary-Kate Francesca.

I considered Francesca Mary-Kate but just know that these are the names that I want (no matter what order they're in). He hates both Mary-Kate and Francesca.

You know it'll end up as MK or Franc (Frank/Frankie).
I prefer it to Olive though. Olive Oil.
There's a Tiktok video going around and the girls name is Barley, she talks about how she has bad hay-fever!
Names are a tough one, good luck. It'll be a race to registery office, to see who wins!!

PerfectlyNormalOwlFreeMorning · 20/07/2025 06:59

wordywitch · 19/07/2025 23:02

Is he Greek, OP? Olive Athena and Calliope have strong Greek associations, so was wondering if he feels strongly about having his culture represented in the names?

Who gives a shit if he is- why does he get to change the deal and force OP to have a second name she doesn't like. Op has her heritage as well.
He was happy choosing the first and middle name of their first DD.

PerfectlyNormalOwlFreeMorning · 20/07/2025 06:55

DeffoNeedANameChange · 19/07/2025 23:20

A) I like Olive 🤷‍♀️ b) I get that she's already compromised, and that "they made a deal" but I also think it was a weird deal, and I'm not surprised that he's struggling to keep his end of this bizarre bargain!

But he was perfectly happy to keep to it when he got the name he wanted?

KandyKayne · 20/07/2025 06:48

Ginnnny · 20/07/2025 05:00

Your husbands options are much nicer

Disagree. Olive and Calliope are atrocious. I'd hate to be called either of those.

urbanbuddha · 20/07/2025 06:39

Francesca goes better with Olive, I think. Your DH is going to have to live with whatever you choose - that’s the agreement he made.

Flatandhappy · 20/07/2025 06:18

Tough shit, he needs to stick to the deal. If he wants to name this child tell him you will be changing your eldest's name by deed poll to the one you wanted (only half joking!). Our eldest has a name which we both agreed on but it was a specific spelling that reflected DH's culture. It was always agreed that if we had a daughter she would have a name that reflected mine and it did.

Mirabai · 20/07/2025 06:14

wordywitch · 19/07/2025 23:51

I know Olive is not a Greek name, but it does have an association in English (olives) and with Athena and Calliope thrown in the mix I think it’s a fair question to ask if he is Greek or of Greek heritage.

There are olives across the med.

Athena and Calliope just imply he likes mythology.

Icanttakethisanymore · 20/07/2025 05:58

I agree with others, this was a terrible idea, however, he really should have seen this coming given your respective tastes.

eta - sorry, should have RTFT those names are all fine. Your DH is an idiot.

BonfireToffee · 20/07/2025 05:48

Ginnnny · 20/07/2025 05:00

Your husbands options are much nicer

Disagree, but it’s not relevant anyway. Husband got to name baby one, OP gets to name baby two.

ThisZingyMember · 20/07/2025 05:25

BrownRedPink · 20/07/2025 05:00

Francesca is OP's idea. Calliope Theodora is her husband's idea.

Yes, I should clarify because there are so many names that have been mentioned. Mary-Kate Francesca is the name that I want.

DH likes Calliope Theodora for this baby, and he named our first daughter Olive Athena.

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