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Husband is trying to back out of naming agreement

459 replies

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 18:44

I'm looking for opinions on this situation. When I was pregnant with our first child, we could not agree on a name. Our tastes are just too different. At the time, I knew that our child was going to end up with a dull compromise name that neither of us would be keen on if we couldn't think of something else. Because of this, I decided to make an agreement with DH that he could name our first child any (first + middle) name that he wanted as long as I would be able to name our second child any (first + middle) name that I wanted. All went well, and he chose our first child's name. I didn't like the name he chose but never tried to interfere due to the agreement.

I'm now pregnant with our second child. I have chosen the name and told DH what it is. He is now trying to back out of the agreement. His argument is that this is an "extreme exception". He hates the name, so he should be able to veto it. My viewpoint is that it doesn't matter that he doesn't like the name. He shouldn't have agreed to this arrangement if he wasn't going to honour it. I'm not going to compromise when the point of the agreement was to avoid doing so.

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LucasBuck · 19/07/2025 23:55

So maybe then still give him a choice (which sounds like more than he gave you for DC1) - Francesca or Mary-Kate? He has to pick, and “I don’t like either” isn’t an option. None of your or his name choices are awful - Mary-Kate and Calliope are probably the more unusual (so personally I’d lean towards Francesca in terms of “fitting in” - although in style Mary actually fits really well with Olive as a sibset imo, both short, sweet and retro!).

VeryStressedMum · 19/07/2025 23:52

It's a ridiculous agreement tbh, it would have been better to end up with a name both of you weren't overjoyed about rather than one parent hating one child's name.
We couldn't decide on a name for our first. In the end he wrote down a few names he liked and I picked one. Luckily the name was one I loved as soon as I saw it and was one I hadn't even thought about before.

wordywitch · 19/07/2025 23:51

Mirabai · 19/07/2025 23:32

Olive is not Greek. In Greek it’s Elia.

I know Olive is not a Greek name, but it does have an association in English (olives) and with Athena and Calliope thrown in the mix I think it’s a fair question to ask if he is Greek or of Greek heritage.

Lockdownsceptic · 19/07/2025 23:45

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 21:20

I was hesitant to share the names because I didn't want them skewing opinions but will.

The name that he chose is Olive Athena.
The name that I've chosen is Mary-Kate Francesca.

I considered Francesca Mary-Kate but just know that these are the names that I want (no matter what order they're in). He hates both Mary-Kate and Francesca.

But they are all lovely names And great combinations. Stick to your guns.

M103 · 19/07/2025 23:44

Calliope is a Greek name. I believe so is Athena and Theodora. Weird name choices unless he is Greek.

Hohofortherobbers · 19/07/2025 23:43

How does he feel about just Katherine Mary? You could shorten to Kate, Katy.

Lose the Francesca it just doesn't roll off the tongue.

FWIW I also think Olive is an ugly name

Francestein · 19/07/2025 23:39

Could you compromise and let him pick the middle name?

Goldbar · 19/07/2025 23:34

Your names aren't my favourite but they are fine. As for his choice, personally, I dislike Olive (Olivia/Livia both fine) but it's not awful and I think is increasing in popularity.

I quite like Theodora. Don't like Calliope or Mary-Kate.

It doesn't matter though because it's your child and your chosen name doesn't fall into the "fgs think of the children!" category.

He agreed to let you name this child and he needs to stick to his word.

Tell him you'll let him choose your second child's name when he agrees to change your first child's name. I.e. never.

PorridgeAndSyrup · 19/07/2025 23:33

Wtf, there is NOTHING extreme about those names 😂I was thinking it would be something ludicrous.
YANBU

Mirabai · 19/07/2025 23:32

wordywitch · 19/07/2025 23:02

Is he Greek, OP? Olive Athena and Calliope have strong Greek associations, so was wondering if he feels strongly about having his culture represented in the names?

Olive is not Greek. In Greek it’s Elia.

Zezet · 19/07/2025 23:31

(olive I quite like though)

Zezet · 19/07/2025 23:30

He's a sore team player and loser.
So tell the buttercup to suck it up.

(Also your name suggestion is much better than his but that's beside the point.)

SilverHammer · 19/07/2025 23:27

ExitPursuedByABare · 19/07/2025 22:56

I’m liking his choices.

Not the point though. They had a deal.

Foreverm0re · 19/07/2025 23:27

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 22:53

From what he has said, he likes Calliope Theodora. I don't.

Oh god no that’s awful. Your choice is fine. He needs to accept it.

nomas · 19/07/2025 23:25

As long as the name isn’t Donald Trump or similar I’d say crack on.

mindingmyown37 · 19/07/2025 23:24

I’m lucky enough DP didn’t care to much about names, he was too excited to be a dad, also his surname is a bitch to match with most names. I picked DS because it’s a name I’d had in my head since I was about 15. He didn’t offer any suggestions so I chose both DS first and middle name. With dd, I couldn’t decide between 3 first names, middle name was set in stone, so I left it up to DP. TBH I may get flamed for this but I feel the woman should have overall say (if you can’t decide) considering we carried them for 9 months and in most cases they have the fathers surname.

Gemstonebeach · 19/07/2025 23:24

He’s being a dick! For what it’s worth, I think Olive and Francesca sound lovely together so I would use them that way round. I’m not a big fan of Mary-Kate myself but it feels like those names have some meaning to them, I prefer Francesca Mary alone.

Emonade · 19/07/2025 23:22

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 19:20

I can see that some are asking why we made this agreement in the first place. When I was pregnant with our first child, we were constantly arguing over this issue (which is unusual for us). It came to the point that we were about to name our child the name that DH's mum had suggested as a compromise. Neither of us truly wanted that.

So weird that you let him name your child a name you didn’t like, I can’t get over it, he sounds absolutely awful

alcoholnightmare · 19/07/2025 23:21

Yes, I also like the name Olive and think posters need to remember this is the name of OPs first born.

DeffoNeedANameChange · 19/07/2025 23:20

JIMER202 · 19/07/2025 23:18

She named her child OLIVE. Shes already compromised.

A) I like Olive 🤷‍♀️ b) I get that she's already compromised, and that "they made a deal" but I also think it was a weird deal, and I'm not surprised that he's struggling to keep his end of this bizarre bargain!

hottoday22 · 19/07/2025 23:20

Could you shorten Olive to Liv or Livi? Most children have nicknames of some variation… just find one you like and start using it- it’ll soon catch on!

JIMER202 · 19/07/2025 23:18

DeffoNeedANameChange · 19/07/2025 23:16

Isn't Calliope a type of organ? I've never heard it as a name.

From a utilitarian point of view I kind of get that it makes more sense for one person to love the name than for both people to kind of like it. But I can't imagine agreeing to call my child a name that I didn't like - I think it was very unusual that you went along with that, and not unsurprising that when push comes to shove he's not able to do the same.

I think it would be fair for you to write a list of 10(+) names that you like, and let him pick from your list (or vice versa if you'd prefer. Or do it both ways round, but then you get the final say)

She named her child OLIVE. Shes already compromised.

JIMER202 · 19/07/2025 23:17

Scrap my message!! Pulling a u-turn.

YES NAME YOUR BABY THAT! It goes nicely with sisters name too actually! Is your eldest named Olive and not Olivia? Are there any nicknames like Liv or Livvie?

Calliope is horrendous. Theres also about to be part 2 of the sandman released in which she is a character repeatedly raped. I’d hate that association tbh.

DeffoNeedANameChange · 19/07/2025 23:16

ThisZingyMember · 19/07/2025 22:53

From what he has said, he likes Calliope Theodora. I don't.

Isn't Calliope a type of organ? I've never heard it as a name.

From a utilitarian point of view I kind of get that it makes more sense for one person to love the name than for both people to kind of like it. But I can't imagine agreeing to call my child a name that I didn't like - I think it was very unusual that you went along with that, and not unsurprising that when push comes to shove he's not able to do the same.

I think it would be fair for you to write a list of 10(+) names that you like, and let him pick from your list (or vice versa if you'd prefer. Or do it both ways round, but then you get the final say)

Doitrightnow · 19/07/2025 23:15

I like Mary-Kate Francesca, it has a nice flow to it. Olive Athena and Calliope Theodora are nice too. Sounds like he likes Greek names.

Your names are perfectly reasonable assuming they're not, like, the names of his hated ex or something. It's not as if you've chosen something offensive or Yoonique. He agreed to it and got his chance to name a child. He needs to suck it up imo.

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