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Brother wants to use my name

62 replies

MaryAntoinette · 03/06/2025 20:43

Bit of a tricky situation. I have two daughters, both of whom we've hesitated calling Esme. They've ended up with different names but it was a very close call each time up until the actual birth day, and my second daughter has Esme as a middle name. Now I'm pregnant with my third child, and surprise, it's a girl!

We're now considering using Esme (at last!) as her name.

But over the weekend, my brother who is engaged, told us how much they loved the name Esme when we were speaking about it, and that they'd like to use it for their future daughter. My DB's fiancée is not pregnant so it's all hypothetical.

What do we do? Use Esme or leave it to my brother even though it's all very theoretical at this stage.

If we use it - is it weird to name your third daughter with the middle name of the second one?
If we don't - is it weird for my DB to use it in the future?

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FortyElephants · 04/06/2025 06:51

Foodylicious · 04/06/2025 06:43

Just start calling your 2nd Daughter by her middle name as a nickname.

I wouldn't use the middle name for 3rd child.
It creates some false bond between the two of them that excludes the 3rd sister.
And will always be a 'thing' about them.

Change her child's name so her brother can't use it? What??

Foodylicious · 04/06/2025 06:43

Just start calling your 2nd Daughter by her middle name as a nickname.

I wouldn't use the middle name for 3rd child.
It creates some false bond between the two of them that excludes the 3rd sister.
And will always be a 'thing' about them.

Marcipix · 04/06/2025 06:36

Eliza is nicer than Esme imo. So is Elizabeth.
Or Elsie.

BoleynMemories13 · 04/06/2025 06:25

I wouldn't use it. Not because your brother and his partner like it for their hypothetical future daughter (may never happen and likely to have changed their mind by then, if ever it does), but because you've already used it for your daughter's middle name. It will look to your third daughter that you couldn't be bothered to think of anything new for her. I know many people use names they considered in previous pregnancies but you didn't just consider it, you actually used it as part of her name.

I've known people to use the same middle name for multiple children, as it's a family name, but using a middle name of one child as the first name for another seems really lazy, like to you couldn't be bothered to think of anything different for that child.

Richiewoo · 04/06/2025 05:49

You've already used it on your second daughter.

Andoutcomethewolves · 04/06/2025 04:46

My first name is my older sister's middle name (it's pretty unusual too). We joke about it on occasion but there's no issues with it - my sister has a distinctive first name of her own and middle names are rarely used in reality. I'd just use Esme if you love it!

FortyElephants · 04/06/2025 04:39

You've had 2 girls already and already used Esme as a middle name - let it go! Choose something else for number 3.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 04/06/2025 04:34

You're actually pregnant, she isn't so have what you like
Personally, I much prefer Eliza to Esme, but it's not weird to use a name twice
The Royal Family do this all the time

LaLaLaLavaChChChChicken · 04/06/2025 02:50

How will your other daughter feel about being the only one without the name connection?

Go for something else. Maybe something more unusual, Asra?

user1492757084 · 04/06/2025 01:28

Think of other names that you like.
You have used Esme for your second daughter so she might want to use that one day herself.

Alizee
Ester
Aster
Elsie
Maisie

Ponderingwindow · 03/06/2025 22:28

No one gets dibs on a name.
It’s why you should never disclose potential baby names until your child arrives and you announce the name. Someone else might have a baby first and use a name from your shortlist because they heard it and liked it.

if your daughter is born first, you can use the name.

Talipesmum · 03/06/2025 22:24

BastardesEverywhere · 03/06/2025 20:55

is it weird to name your third daughter with the middle name of the second one?

I think it is. You liked the name, you used it already.

also think it’s weird to use her middle name as her sister’s first name. Not weird for your brother though.

Mumof2girls2121 · 03/06/2025 22:23

theres a reason you didn’t use it before

Somanylemons · 03/06/2025 21:58

Is the reason you don’t really want him to use it is because it’s nice for your child to feel their name is individual and chosen especially for them ?

If so - I really don’t think you can name your child the same as the middle name of their sibling.

MaryAntoinette · 03/06/2025 21:48

@oncimesmask he definitely knows, I've been quite vocal about my first DD almost being an Esme and second one too. But he didn't know my second DD's middle name was Esme.

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oncimesmask · 03/06/2025 21:45

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oncimesmask · 03/06/2025 21:45

Did your brother know it’s one of your top names? If yes then he shouldn’t be surprised if you use it. If no then it will look like you picked it after your conversation.

dustygrey · 03/06/2025 21:38

So you already have 2 dds, and didn't use the name....? I'm not sure you can tell your brother not to use it.

MaryAntoinette · 03/06/2025 21:18

Yes I don't know what's about me and this name. I do love it so much though, but husband didn't for our first girl, so we ended up using another name that really suits her. He came round for our second daughter who was going to be Esme up until right after her birth where it didn't seem quite right and that our second runner up, Serena, would suit her better. But it was such a difficult choice. And now I'm like...after all this, surely I should use it!
But my brother told me he loves it, and it's a middle name for my DD2 so...yeah. Maybe it's not meant to be.
Thanks everyone for your views

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2chocolateoranges · 03/06/2025 21:13

My friends middle name is her sisters first name. My friend is the eldest.

i don’t find it strange at all.

however I do prefer Eliza out of your two names,

As teenagers my friend told us all we couldn’t use a certain girls name. None of us used it and lo and behold she never had any children.

PopThatBench · 03/06/2025 21:12

Very odd to use your daughter’s middle name as a first name for your other daughter. When they’re older and realise this, this might be a sore spot for the girls.

Not weird for brother to use it but almost irrelevant because they’re not having a baby yet.

Eliza’s a lovely alternative. Elodie is also nice. You could have Emilie and shorten it to Emme/Emmie if you like the sound.

hyggetyggedotorg · 03/06/2025 21:10

Your love for Esme has only been renewed because of your brother saying he wanted to use it. If you REALLY loved it that much, after two DDs, you would already have used it for a first name.

I absolutely love Eliza but - just a tongue in cheek word of warning - it’s my DDs middle name & today she bought home her GCSE candidate information & pointing to her middle name said “does that HAVE to be on there?” 😂😂😂

Painrelief · 03/06/2025 21:09

Surely tho if you loved it that much you would’ve used it already ? It’s like it’s an almost name but it’s not quite right for whatever reason .
Now if you name your DD Esme it’s gonna cause upset for a name that you ain’t been sure about for years .
Give her a fresh name . Maybe it will give you a special bond with any future niece .

Spies · 03/06/2025 21:05

I think given you didn't use it for your first daughter and then used it for your second daughter's middle name it's odd you now want to use it as a first name and does seem like it's just because your brother mentioned it.

Given you've used it as a middle name it would be strange to use it again and I would leave it for your brother to use it he and his wife chose it when the time comes.

OrangeAndPistachio · 03/06/2025 21:04

BarnacleBeasley · 03/06/2025 20:46

I think it is a bit weird to use your daughter's middle name, but not weird for your brother.

Not really. Don't the royal family do this regularly?

Op , use it if you want. Dont save a name for someone that might never need it.