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Brother wants to use my name

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MaryAntoinette · 03/06/2025 20:43

Bit of a tricky situation. I have two daughters, both of whom we've hesitated calling Esme. They've ended up with different names but it was a very close call each time up until the actual birth day, and my second daughter has Esme as a middle name. Now I'm pregnant with my third child, and surprise, it's a girl!

We're now considering using Esme (at last!) as her name.

But over the weekend, my brother who is engaged, told us how much they loved the name Esme when we were speaking about it, and that they'd like to use it for their future daughter. My DB's fiancée is not pregnant so it's all hypothetical.

What do we do? Use Esme or leave it to my brother even though it's all very theoretical at this stage.

If we use it - is it weird to name your third daughter with the middle name of the second one?
If we don't - is it weird for my DB to use it in the future?

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firsttimemom99x · 04/06/2025 19:16

You’re the one who’s pregnant so use whatever name you want! By the time they get pregnant they might change their mind anyway, then you’ll be wishing you used the name you loved after all!!

Andoutcomethewolves · 04/06/2025 18:53

GoldDuster · 04/06/2025 10:23

Don't sidestep a name that you love because someone might get pregnant in future and has a 50/50 chance of being able to use the name you like.

However, don't give DD3 DD2's middle name, that feels odd. It's like you didn't like it enough to call DD2 it, but you now can't think of anything else. Let DD3 have her own name. I like Eliza more.

I've never seen it in this way! If anything my older sister was annoyed I'd stolen her middle name (TBF her first name is terrible - don't name your kids after a fictional Highland cow guys🙈)

OP, Eliza and Madeleine are both beautiful

Amelie2025 · 04/06/2025 18:40

MaryAntoinette · 04/06/2025 18:17

Tha nks everyone for your opinion. We've decided to leave the name Esme aside, and get our third daughter her own very special, very unique name. Probably Madeleine or Eliza.
Thank you as reading all the responses helped us make up our mind once and for all. I can now enjoy the pregnancy without low level stressing about this name.

Cross posted with you ( started my post then
had to leave it unfined, then saw your post after I posted it!)

good decision! Hope the pregnancy & birth hi well!
Madeleine is much nicer than Eliza!!

Amelie2025 · 04/06/2025 18:36

MaryAntoinette · 03/06/2025 20:58

Thank you - second contender is Eliza if we don't use Esme. I love Domino but my husband strongly vetoed it 😂

You'll thank you DH later, she's not going to be a pizza! Or a game!

I think it's weird to have loved a name 'so much' that you didn't use it first, used it as a middle name for your second, but now your brother & his gf have said they like it for a future name you want to 'ring fence' it by using it.

it wasn't 'good enough' for your first two girls names but it's 'good enough' for your 3rd.

give your 3rd daughter a name that's fresh & all her own!

uncomfortablydumb60 · 04/06/2025 18:36

Great Choice, I love Eliza
i named my imaginary twin girls Alice and Eliza!
I have 3 sons.

MaryAntoinette · 04/06/2025 18:27

@MargotTenenbaumscoat bit of a mouthful for my french family (Franco British family)

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MargotTenenbaumscoat · 04/06/2025 18:24

Eliza is gorgeous.

How about Elspeth?

MaryAntoinette · 04/06/2025 18:17

Tha nks everyone for your opinion. We've decided to leave the name Esme aside, and get our third daughter her own very special, very unique name. Probably Madeleine or Eliza.
Thank you as reading all the responses helped us make up our mind once and for all. I can now enjoy the pregnancy without low level stressing about this name.

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mathanxiety · 04/06/2025 17:08

BastardesEverywhere · 03/06/2025 20:55

is it weird to name your third daughter with the middle name of the second one?

I think it is. You liked the name, you used it already.

Agree.

At some point, your third daughter will want to know why she didn't get her own special name just for her.

There will be plenty of cast offs and second hand stuff in this girl's life - give her a name that's unique to her.

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/06/2025 16:55

BarnacleBeasley · 03/06/2025 20:46

I think it is a bit weird to use your daughter's middle name, but not weird for your brother.

This.

Busted2006 · 04/06/2025 12:28

I had the very same dilemma, my DD has the middle name Rose which I love and wanted to use it as a 1st name for newborn DD.

We ended up going with a variant of Rose as we didn’t want to give them the exact same name. It is similar but not the same, honestly it’s something I’m glad about now as I think they deserve their own name.

I love Eliza though, imo it’s so much nicer than Esme.

purpleygrey · 04/06/2025 12:01

I think if you loved the name that much you would have already used it.

I wouldn’t worry about your brother using the same name - I have the same name as my cousin and it’s never been a problem.

Username2151 · 04/06/2025 11:59

It's one thing to have a family surname that you give to any and all DCs as a middle name, but it's something else again to give a given name to one child as a middle name and another as a first name. I agree with other PPS, it sounds like you couldn't find another name out of hundreds to give your third DD a name of her own.
Eliza is a lovely name!

Corallie · 04/06/2025 10:47

Richiewoo · 04/06/2025 05:49

You've already used it on your second daughter.

This!

Please give your third daughter her OWN name. She deserves it. By reusing her sister’s middle name it feels like you ran out of names and couldn’t be bothered to find a name for her!

CourageConsort · 04/06/2025 10:37

Foodylicious · 04/06/2025 06:43

Just start calling your 2nd Daughter by her middle name as a nickname.

I wouldn't use the middle name for 3rd child.
It creates some false bond between the two of them that excludes the 3rd sister.
And will always be a 'thing' about them.

That's one of the weirder things I've seen on here lately, which is saying something...

ElixirOfLife · 04/06/2025 10:35

Your DB says he likes the name now but by the time his child comes along (if they even have a girl) he may have a completely different name in mind.

I much prefer Eliza but tbh you could just say to him that you’re possibly going to call your daughter Esme and feeling a bit awkward after he said he likes it too.

I’m not sure why you didn’t speak up at the time?

PeachPumpkin · 04/06/2025 10:30

I know a family…father and 3 boys. All have both a first and a middle name. Between all of them there are only 4 names.

OP, I wouldn’t not use the name just because your brother might want to use it. If you like it, you use it. I don’t think it’s a big deal that an older sister already has the name as a middle name. I would give careful thought as to why it didn’t make the cut the first two times you were choosing first names. I would also consider if there could be confusion over Esmeee or Esmay and if that will annoy you/your daughter.

Throughahedgebackwards · 04/06/2025 10:30

OrangeAndPistachio · 03/06/2025 21:04

Not really. Don't the royal family do this regularly?

Op , use it if you want. Dont save a name for someone that might never need it.

.. and absolutely nothing the royal family do is at all weird.
It is weird. Give your new daughter her own name.

Viviennemary · 04/06/2025 10:25

BastardesEverywhere · 03/06/2025 20:55

is it weird to name your third daughter with the middle name of the second one?

I think it is. You liked the name, you used it already.

I agree. You have used the name. Your brother can use it as he hasn't used the name.

GoldDuster · 04/06/2025 10:23

Don't sidestep a name that you love because someone might get pregnant in future and has a 50/50 chance of being able to use the name you like.

However, don't give DD3 DD2's middle name, that feels odd. It's like you didn't like it enough to call DD2 it, but you now can't think of anything else. Let DD3 have her own name. I like Eliza more.

Emanwenym · 04/06/2025 10:06

@BarnacleBeasley , the major royals are limited in the names they can choose, but some of the late Queen Elizabeth's great-grandchildren have names that don't meet my approval.

BarnacleBeasley · 04/06/2025 09:52

I'm not convinced that 'the Royal family do it' is a strong argument for something not being a bit odd.

RightSaidFrederica · 04/06/2025 07:41

My mum is the youngest of four girls, and has no middle name. Her parents were quite open about saying they’d run out of girls’ names they liked!

Reusing a name has similar vibes, I wouldn’t.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 04/06/2025 06:57

I think it’s odd they want to use the name you’ve loved for so long, but sometimes a name grows on you after hearing it over a long time and maybe that’s what has happened here.

I think it would be strange for you to use it now having given it to your middle daughter - it’s now her name.

MummaMummaMumma · 04/06/2025 06:54

It's not your name, you don't own it.

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