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How would you pronounce this name Kaelan or Kaylan

187 replies

Twicemummytobe · 19/02/2025 22:55

We have finally found the name we are wanting to call our son.

I love the spelling “Kaelan” pronounced “Kay- Lan” but I am worried people would call him “KEE-LAN”

or do we have to make it obvious for people and spell it out as “Kaylan”

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mikado1 · 22/02/2025 17:13

Whoarethoseguys · 22/02/2025 17:10

That's a very strange comment.
It may not be to your taste but OP has chosen it and it's a fine old Irish name. There is nothing wrong with it.
I haven't heard anything negative about K names in general, why on earth should they not be well thought of?

Caolán or Caoilfhionn and even Caelan Irish yes. Kaylan is v much anglicised. There is no K in Irish. It is equivalent to Kieran for Ciarán and I don't think you'd call Kieran an Irish name.
Nothing wrong with any of them BTW, just wrt the Old Irish comment.

Whoarethoseguys · 22/02/2025 17:10

BellissimoGecko · 19/02/2025 23:54

Urgh. Are you sure? K names are not generally well thought of.

That's a very strange comment.
It may not be to your taste but OP has chosen it and it's a fine old Irish name. There is nothing wrong with it.
I haven't heard anything negative about K names in general, why on earth should they not be well thought of?

Emanwenym · 22/02/2025 17:02

@Needmorelego , Vowels being transposed is a good point. If autocorrect doesn't pick it up, you will get it again and again. Irish names like Meabh, Tadhg, Aoife etc are routinely misspelt on here, usually in a 'No one will misspell Aiofe' post.

You might not have been familiar with Caelan, but Kaylan is in the same league as Kayden.

I just can't imagine a romantic lead/hero called Keith. Smile

Needmorelego · 22/02/2025 16:38

Moveoverdarlin · 22/02/2025 16:33

They may be perfectly nice people, but without exception every one of those names you have listed is bloody awful.

They aren't all to my taste either but I wouldn't judge people who choose to call their children those names.
Except maybe Keith......I can't imagine a little baby Keith these days 😂

Moveoverdarlin · 22/02/2025 16:33

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 09:47

That's really weird. Do people really think that?
Over my many years I've known boys/men called Kyle, Kevin, Kayden, Keith, Kelvin, Keegan, Kai, Kelly (yes a boy), Kenny.
All of them perfectly normal nice people (except for Kelly who was a bit of a tosser but his whole family were tossers).

They may be perfectly nice people, but without exception every one of those names you have listed is bloody awful.

scottishGirl · 22/02/2025 15:58

I would spell it Caelan

mathanxiety · 20/02/2025 21:16

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 13:42

But they aren’t going “not hiring this one, he’s called Jaxxon Dweezel Englebert and the last three Jaxxon Dweezels were dickheads.”

They are scanning loads of application forms and filtering them through their own unconscious bias. When choosing a shortlist of 8 from 120 applications, the tiniest things can tip it either way.

People tend to hire people like themselves. That’s why modern recruitment practices hide this information, so the candidates are looked at fairly.

Do I have a mental image of Jaxxon’s background? Sure. And also of Charles, and of Bodie and of StJohn. And so do you, I expect.

Have you ever been in a staff room when new class lists are handed out? Very funny and kind of scary to overhear. Teacher have many opinions on names.

Thankfully we now live in a world of AI scanning of CVs.

No buzz words? No interview.

Your name is Jaxxxon or Superman or Daysey-Mae? Not an issue.

Companies that have a death wish allow unconscious bias to interfere with their hiring.

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 21:02

LookingAtMyBhunas · 20/02/2025 20:07

I'd pronounce it chav-vee.

rude

LookingAtMyBhunas · 20/02/2025 20:07

I'd pronounce it chav-vee.

BootballJoy · 20/02/2025 18:33

Caelan is great.

It would be lovely to live in a world where name snobbery and class preconceptions didn't exist but unfortunately they do. Not a new thing either. I'm reading a book written in the 18th century and read a passage the other day about vulgar naming practices!

I do think the whole CV thing is overstated on here though. At least where I work (I know there's always the possibility of unconscious bias) interview practices are designed to be as objective as possible. Names aren't even allowed on CVs etc in shortlisting. And there are plenty of Sharons, Traceys, Kevins etc in senior positions. I think even with a class signifier it's possible enough to succeed on an individual level, if you present yourself well, are good at your job, articulate etc. People get used to names pretty quickly.

Rosenkohle · 20/02/2025 14:53

I'd pronounce both Kay-lan

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 14:01

Emanwenym · 20/02/2025 13:37

@Needmorelego , but you are looking down your nose at us, because we admit that we'd perceive Kaylan differently to Caelan.

No I'm not.
My original thought on the name (not knowing at all that's it's based on an Irish name) is that Kaylan is a better spelling than Kaelan because I know people with "ae" in their name frequently get it spelled wrong.
I was reading an article about the TV show Friends the other day. The character name Phoebe was written both as Phoebe and Pheobe is the SAME article.
As someone whose name is frequently spelled wrong I was just trying to save Kaylan a lifetime of spelling errors.
I personally like the name.
I didn't know it's apparently Irish.

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 13:42

But they aren’t going “not hiring this one, he’s called Jaxxon Dweezel Englebert and the last three Jaxxon Dweezels were dickheads.”

They are scanning loads of application forms and filtering them through their own unconscious bias. When choosing a shortlist of 8 from 120 applications, the tiniest things can tip it either way.

People tend to hire people like themselves. That’s why modern recruitment practices hide this information, so the candidates are looked at fairly.

Do I have a mental image of Jaxxon’s background? Sure. And also of Charles, and of Bodie and of StJohn. And so do you, I expect.

Have you ever been in a staff room when new class lists are handed out? Very funny and kind of scary to overhear. Teacher have many opinions on names.

Emanwenym · 20/02/2025 13:37

@Needmorelego , but you are looking down your nose at us, because we admit that we'd perceive Kaylan differently to Caelan.

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:29

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 13:24

You probably are, you just don’t notice. We all are, in one way or another.

We make assumptions on previous experiences, our culture and our communities. What signals one thing to one group will say something completely different to another.

It’s like having an accent - everyone has one, but only notice other people’s.

Of course there are times I might roll my eyes at an unusual spelling or an "out there" name or I name that I personally just think is horribly ugly (sorry to anyone called Percy but your name is ugly 😂) but if I am interacting with this person I wouldn't be saying anything rude to their face or whatever.
I do know that people make assumptions and think about stereotypes when they see or hear certain names - I just think it's appalling that someone might not give someone a job interview because their parents decided to call them something unusual.
It might happen....but it shouldn't.

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 13:24

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:14

Well I might not know the trendy way to write a CV but at least I'm not snobby about what another human is called.

You probably are, you just don’t notice. We all are, in one way or another.

We make assumptions on previous experiences, our culture and our communities. What signals one thing to one group will say something completely different to another.

It’s like having an accent - everyone has one, but only notice other people’s.

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 20/02/2025 13:21

I would pronounce Kaelan as you have suggested (but I’m a teacher in a Catholic school - there are lots of Irish names!) However, Caelan is the more traditional spelling. I’m not as keen on the ‘Kaylan’ spelling but I’m not a fan of anglicised spellings of Irish names anyway (so possibly biased). I think it’s a nice name.

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 13:21

I remember reading a study in the late 80s of identical essay submitted under different names to universities. There were very stark differences in how they were judged.

Old fashioned names scored higher grades than those perceived as new. Those assumed to be from certain backgrounds did better or worse based on broad cultural stereotypes. Afro-Caribbean names were marked down, Korean or Chinese names marked higher, that sort of thing. It was eye opening.

People are subconsciously influenced by all sorts of things. It’s how Derren Brown does his act. It’s part of human nature and there’s no point pretending it doesn’t happen or that we don’t do it all the time ourselves.

It’s certainly worth bearing in mind when naming our children - how will their name help or hinder them in life?

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:14

IHate · 20/02/2025 13:10

Indeed.

Well I might not know the trendy way to write a CV but at least I'm not snobby about what another human is called.

IHate · 20/02/2025 13:10

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:03

Well it's a long time since I needed a CV so I don't know what's the etiquette these days.

Indeed.

Emanwenym · 20/02/2025 13:07

I'd not expect to see Dr on a cv but I don't work in a medical field. Lots of colleagues have PhDs but it's only stated in email signatures, and if it is relevant.

If I got a CV with Mrs Jane Smith or Mr John Smith on it, it would probably be rejected.

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:03

IHate · 20/02/2025 13:02

If someone put their title, and it wasn’t ‘Dr’ or similar, on a CV, I’d find it very very odd.

I also can’t think of a situation in which I’d address anyone using their title (again, unless it was Dr).

Well it's a long time since I needed a CV so I don't know what's the etiquette these days.

IHate · 20/02/2025 13:02

If someone put their title, and it wasn’t ‘Dr’ or similar, on a CV, I’d find it very very odd.

I also can’t think of a situation in which I’d address anyone using their title (again, unless it was Dr).

Needmorelego · 20/02/2025 13:01

@Emanwenym so "Princess Surname" then (going with the very long name someone suggested).
I might slightly role my eyes at the name "Princess" but that's not the persons fault their parents chose that.
I mean there's a daughter of a celebrity called Princess and as far as I know she goes to a fancy private school - so if potential employers are going for the "old boy network" concept then surely her school name would show she's not some "chav from a slum estate" (urrgh I hate the word chav).

Loveshoney · 20/02/2025 12:40

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 20/02/2025 00:47

Mine too

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