How would you pronounce Zana ?

No, I'm not, I'm answering increasingly ridiculous questions from some pp.

At no point have I!!!! I have said they’re different, I have said we pronounce r’s differently, I have said that ar makes sense to ME and that the others don’t work for ME.

I’ve said it many times now! This is exasperating.

It is you who has told me, even after watching the video, that I am pronouncing the name incorrectly.

urgh, enough.

I'd say Zana differently than Zahne tbh.
If Zana is in fact German then it would be Tsana more than Zana.

I know I have said all of this previously. I even sent a video showing how it’s pronounced. I have also said umpteen times that it’s because we pronounce r’s differently.

But my point was that to me, with my accent, the only written way of it making sense is ar. I have never said anyone else has to accept that, but what I have said over and over is that at is the best way of it making sense to me. I know it doesn’t make sense to other people with differing accents. I have said this.

But I ca(r)n’t argue any more. Good night.

You are falling over yourself muddling spelling conventions and pronunciations.

Whether you like it or not the 2 letters "ar" can represent long 'a' vowel sound in written English. Non rhotic speakers will not say the 'r' but it's presence in the word affects how the vowel is spoken. So it has an important function even if its not spoken.

R is not itself a vowel obviously, but together with the a the digraph represents a vowel sound.

@rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou At the start of this thread I actually thought you were bonkers but I am getting what you mean now. That's from me saying the words over and over in different accents and from what @BarbaraHoward has posted.

The way you've gone about making your point is very odd though and had you been less insistent and more informative, you'd have had far more success helping people understand.

You pronounce them according to your dialect.
It's wrong to suggest everyone should pronounce according to your dialect.

I'd actually ask if Jana was Ja na or Ya na, but I'd never think to say Jar na or Yar na.

I suggest you read your last paragraph.

ˈzaːnə like the German for cream

I wasn't speaking to you. Why do you keep picking at my posts when I'm one of the few who are (sort of) agreeing with you.

@rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou

You need to sign up to MI5 or MI6 or something, because you’re capable of a special kind of torture, no idea whether it’s deliberate or you’re actually this obtuse.

Good night. Maybe consider travelling more.

How many ar sounds in drunk as a fart?

I know you understand the distinction between rhotic and non-rhotic accent, but I disagree with you that it's correct to describe the sound as an "ar" sound. You pronounce the long A and ar the same, and even writing it as ar when explaining it phonetically may make sense, but it's not an ar sound. That's kind of the point. It's a long vowel. Which is the same as ar to some and very very different to ar for others, so describing it as ar is a bit useless, especially when you patently understand the differences in the accents.

Except I haven’t!!! You have!!! That’s been your argument the whole way through.

People have tied multiple ways to explain to you, I sent you a video and you STILL said I was pronouncing it incorrectly because ‘it didn’t have an r in it’.

I have said, we pronounce r differently. Why can’t you accept that?

People keep referring to England though. There's more to the UK than England.

It's incorrect to assume this applies to anything other than your dialect over and over and over again.

I don't pronounce r as a long vowel.

Yes? This is exactly what I’ve been explaining? Over and over again?

That that is how I pronounce it due to my accent and others don’t because their accent differs. I have already stated that i don’t roll or accentuate the r. I even tried other variants but aA and ah aren’t it.

I'm not a dude.
I'm making a valid point.

If it's a long vowel there should not be an r sound. R is not universally pronounced and is actually a consonant.

Seriously dude, I agree with you about R being a poor choice to denote the sound. You're not helping yourself.

Some dialects not pronouncing it, and them being used to dominating, doesn't mean it's correct.

It's not an ar sound. It's a long vowel, and you happen to pronounce ar in the same way.

Google states most of the UK. As I've already stated.

But my name doesn’t have an r in it and is pronounced with the ar sound, so you telling me my own name is wrong? My friend Jana pronounces it with an ar sound, is she wrong too? These are our names, we pronounce them correctly and if you pronounced my name without the ar sound I would correct you and expect you to accept that, in the same way if I met someone called Zana and I pronouncemd it with the ar sound and that was wrong I’d expect them to correct me and I’d accept it.

Not everyone speaks like you!!! Accents and dialects exist! It’s part of the amazing fabric of life. How are you still not getting this? The world isn’t according to YOU

R is not pronounced the same all over the UK, it adds confusion.