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RoseApp · 2024-09-18T17:38:41+00:00

My friend assumed people would pronounce her child’s name Zana like Zah-nah as in Suzanna but several people have pronounced it as Zar-na

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timeforanewmoniker · 18/09/2024 20:25

The best one is when you ask people whether "put" and "but" rhyme, because for northerners they always rhyme and for southerners they don't. Ask a southerner to pronounce them to a northener and watch the complete look of shock as they can hear it's different but can't make them not-rhyme themselves.

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:25

AgileGreenSeal · 18/09/2024 20:23

What is your accent? It sounds really intriguing to me, I can’t even imagine how you get an “R” sound in those words.

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I'm in London and everybody speaks this way here.

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:24

napody · 18/09/2024 20:23

In non rhotic accents we don't actually say the r separately. We just say a long 'aaa' sound. Like at the doctors when you're a kid- 'say aaaaah'!

People using their own versions of phonetic spellings has created a load of confusion on this thread, so to increase it, I'd say Zaaahna 😂

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This is a better description possibly than adding the ‘r’ to the spelling!

AgileGreenSeal · 18/09/2024 20:23

ShillyShallySherbet · 18/09/2024 20:12

I pronounce the words bath, grass and castle as if there is an ‘r’ in it, even though I know there isn’t. I know others don’t but it doesn’t make me wrong and them right, it’s just different dialects.

Similarly I would pronounce Zana as if there were an ‘r’ in it even though there isn’t. I’m intrigued how people are pronouncing zah-na because to my ear that would sound like ‘Zarna’ too.

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What is your accent? It sounds really intriguing to me, I can’t even imagine how you get an “R” sound in those words.

Monkeysatonthewall · 18/09/2024 20:23

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:20

Because that's how we pronounce it down South.

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Ahh that makes sense.
Where I am, it would never be pronounced with an R so I was confused.

napody · 18/09/2024 20:23

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:19

Why are people adding an r that isn't there?

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In non rhotic accents we don't actually say the r separately. We just say a long 'aaa' sound. Like at the doctors when you're a kid- 'say aaaaah'!

People using their own versions of phonetic spellings has created a load of confusion on this thread, so to increase it, I'd say Zaaahna 😂

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:23

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:21

Do you add or remove letters randomly or just r?

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It's not the letter, it's the sound. People are just using the r to make it clear what sound they're using.

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:22

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:19

Why are people adding an r that isn't there?

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Because that’s our accent. It’s quite common?

Do you pronounce rough and dough the same? The English language is more complex than ‘but there’s no r in it’.

I’m not sure if you’re rude or just ignorant.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:21

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:20

Because that's how we pronounce it down South.

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Do you add or remove letters randomly or just r?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:20

Jasperj · 18/09/2024 20:12

Surely people were just trying to emphasise the extended ahh sound. Does it really matter if everyone isn’t an expert in how to clearly convey something phonetically?

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Extended a isn't ar.

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:20

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:19

Why are people adding an r that isn't there?

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Because that's how we pronounce it down South.

Monkeysatonthewall · 18/09/2024 20:20

I would pronounce the way parents expected.

Really strange to see that people would pronounce an 'r' even though there isn't one... Wondering if it's a regional thing?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:19

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:18

How bizarre, on tv show I watch a particular character is called Lana it’s pronounced Larna and my friend is called Jana and she pronounces it Jarna.

Guess different pronunciations. I’ve never heard then pronounced any other way personally.

Oh and we also pronounce it ‘Barth’ and grarss’. Just like most people do where I live.

Languages and accents are complex, and the English language has a lot of silent letters and words which are spelled the same but pronounced differently.

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Why are people adding an r that isn't there?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:19

Undisclosedlocation · 18/09/2024 20:17

This is where I’m struggling…. Like a previous poster I can’t see the difference between those 2. I’d sound those out as exactly the same

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Just don't pronounce the additional r sound after the a, as if you were saying lap but don't pronounce the p.

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:18

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 19:49

La-na, Ja-na, definitely not Lar-na or Jar-na. There is no r!

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How bizarre, on tv show I watch a particular character is called Lana it’s pronounced Larna and my friend is called Jana and she pronounces it Jarna.

Guess different pronunciations. I’ve never heard then pronounced any other way personally.

Oh and we also pronounce it ‘Barth’ and grarss’. Just like most people do where I live.

Languages and accents are complex, and the English language has a lot of silent letters and words which are spelled the same but pronounced differently.

AgileGreenSeal · 18/09/2024 20:18

napody · 18/09/2024 20:13

Yes I know- I just think many people will say zarna by analogy.
Obviously if corrected they'll know! But the thread asked how you'd pronounce a name you've never seen.

Lana has an 'ar' sound in most UK accents, doesn't it?

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“Lana has an 'ar' sound in most UK accents, doesn't it?”

no

it’s not Lar-na .

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:18

napody · 18/09/2024 20:14

But would either say Lanna for Lana?

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Lanna and Lana don't sound hugely different, just a slightly shorter a with the double n. Neither are close to Larna though.
Out of interest, to those who say Larna or Zarna, for Lana and Zana, do you also add another r to Lorna?

Undisclosedlocation · 18/09/2024 20:17

AgileGreenSeal · 18/09/2024 20:15

There’s no R in it.
Zah-na for me

This is where I’m struggling…. Like a previous poster I can’t see the difference between those 2. I’d sound those out as exactly the same

AgileGreenSeal · 18/09/2024 20:15

There’s no R in it.
Zah-na for me

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:15

napody · 18/09/2024 20:13

Yes I know- I just think many people will say zarna by analogy.
Obviously if corrected they'll know! But the thread asked how you'd pronounce a name you've never seen.

Lana has an 'ar' sound in most UK accents, doesn't it?

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A few accents, definitely not most.
The correct name is La-na, not Lar-na.

FeedingThem · 18/09/2024 20:15

Zay-na or Zar-na but then I wouldn't say su-zah-nah I'd say su-za-na

napody · 18/09/2024 20:14

BarbaraVineFan · 18/09/2024 20:11

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GOOGLE RHOTIC VS NON-RHOTIC ACCENTS!!!!!!!!

Ahem. Sorry for shouting, but this happens EVERY time.

But would either say Lanna for Lana?

napody · 18/09/2024 20:13

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:10

Zara has an r in it, Zana doesnt.

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Yes I know- I just think many people will say zarna by analogy.
Obviously if corrected they'll know! But the thread asked how you'd pronounce a name you've never seen.

Lana has an 'ar' sound in most UK accents, doesn't it?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:13

ShillyShallySherbet · 18/09/2024 20:12

I pronounce the words bath, grass and castle as if there is an ‘r’ in it, even though I know there isn’t. I know others don’t but it doesn’t make me wrong and them right, it’s just different dialects.

Similarly I would pronounce Zana as if there were an ‘r’ in it even though there isn’t. I’m intrigued how people are pronouncing zah-na because to my ear that would sound like ‘Zarna’ too.

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It's incorrect to tell others there should be an r sound there though.

StudioCreate · 18/09/2024 20:13

And there is an r in the pronunciation of Bath particularly in a West Country accent which would be more like a pirate saying it as Barrrth