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How would you pronounce Zana ?

438 replies

RoseApp · 18/09/2024 18:38

My friend assumed people would pronounce her child’s name Zana like Zah-nah as in Suzanna but several people have pronounced it as Zar-na

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StudioCreate · 18/09/2024 20:41

Ah and ar sound the same to us southerners.

I also can't make put and but rhyme but pour poor pore and paw do 😉

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:41

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:38

It's not pronounced ar though, it's ah. That is the point!

Yes but people put the r to exaggerate the sound. Perhaps it doesn't work in your accent, but it does in ours. I put ah when I posted but I can see why others have used r. It's really not that deep.

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:41

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:39

I understand different ways or saying r, yes, but there still isn't an r sound of any description in these words!

What words?
“Bath”, grass and giraffe?

Do you agree that they can be pronounced with either a long or a short “a”?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:40

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:40

Yes I was making a joke about taking like a pirate to that poster. Hence all the rrrrrr’s.

I didn't miss it, just didn't reply to the humour aspect of it.

MerryMarys · 18/09/2024 20:40

It took me years to realise that it was a pun on the word “Awesome” because non-rhotic speakers say “Roarsome” and “Awesome” almost identically.

Really? What about the name Rory - would they pronounce it as Aw-ey??

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:40

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:38

Joke?

Yes I was making a joke about taking like a pirate to that poster. Hence all the rrrrrr’s.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:39

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:38

Don’t you understand? Their “r” sound is not the same as my (and presumably your) “r” sound.

To them an “r sound” is an elongated vowel.

I understand different ways or saying r, yes, but there still isn't an r sound of any description in these words!

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:38

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:38

The joke has clearly gone over your head.

Joke?

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:38

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:34

Read the posters asserting that it IS an r sound.

Don’t you understand? Their “r” sound is not the same as my (and presumably your) “r” sound.

To them an “r sound” is an elongated vowel.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:38

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:29

Because it’s pronounced like ‘are’ not ahhhh. So people are using an ‘r’ to try and explain this.

Don’t would be pronounced Z-are-na

It's not pronounced ar though, it's ah. That is the point!

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:38

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:37

It is a random letter. There is no r. There is an a or an elongated a.

The joke has clearly gone over your head.

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:37

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:35

Wait, I read this in a pirate accent and I think it’s going to make things worse 😂

Like ‘Zarrrrrrrna’

Edited

Honestly I don't think my head can get any more fucked up right now tbf 😂

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:37

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:35

Wait, I read this in a pirate accent and I think it’s going to make things worse 😂

Like ‘Zarrrrrrrna’

Edited

It is a random letter. There is no r. There is an a or an elongated a.

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:36

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:35

No, you're adding more letters now.
Spoken correctly Zana is straightforward.
It's our strange spelling rules and mix of influences from other languages which cause difficulties!

Edited

Okay, ha ha, all very amusing now.

Dragonsandcats · 18/09/2024 20:36

In my accent, Zarna and Zahna sound the same.
I would pronounce it Zay-na or Zaaaah-na not zanna

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:35

MerryMarys · 18/09/2024 20:34

Hence “girarffe” is giraffe with a long “a” sound.

What Confused?

Why not simply giraafe?

Because it does not occur to the writer that using an “r” will cause confusion.

napody · 18/09/2024 20:35

Lol, z-are-na doesnt really help- because the word 'are' is one thing, but the same letters in bare and care is another!

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:35

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:34

It's not a random letter. The a followed by the r makes the right sound to us. Like "ooh-arrr me hearties".

Wait, I read this in a pirate accent and I think it’s going to make things worse 😂

Like ‘Zarrrrrrrna’

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:35

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:33

As I said earlier, this may help,

Z-are-na

Doea that make more sense? It’s very common to have this accent. Very common. Words evolve in different ways and the English language is complex. Many words do not sound as they are written. That is why it is such a difficult language to learn.

No, you're adding more letters now.
Spoken correctly Zana is straightforward.
It's our strange spelling rules and mix of influences from other languages which cause difficulties!

CellophaneFlower · 18/09/2024 20:34

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:31

No, I'm questioning adding random letters that aren't there.

It's not a random letter. The a followed by the r makes the right sound to us. Like "ooh-arrr me hearties".

baffledbyworksheets · 18/09/2024 20:34

Can she introduce them as 'zannah like Hannah with a z'?

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:34

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:33

I’m sorry, you’re just being rude or deliberately obtuse now. I spent several paragraphs agreeing with you and explaining that it’s not an “r” sound.

Read the posters asserting that it IS an r sound.

MerryMarys · 18/09/2024 20:34

Hence “girarffe” is giraffe with a long “a” sound.

What Confused?

Why not simply giraafe?

napody · 18/09/2024 20:34

HotCrossBunplease · 18/09/2024 20:31

@rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou
I often use this example to illustrate the mutual lack of comprehension.

Lots of kids’ birthday cards feature a lion or dinosaur with mouth wide open and the words “Have a Roarsome Birthday!”

It took me years to realise that it was a pun on the word “Awesome” because non-rhotic speakers say “Roarsome” and “Awesome” almost identically.

Edited

Love that! Also there's a N Irish comedian who does a great bit on 'paw, poor and pour'

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 20:33

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 18/09/2024 20:31

No, I'm questioning adding random letters that aren't there.

As I said earlier, this may help,

Z-are-na

Doea that make more sense? It’s very common to have this accent. Very common. Words evolve in different ways and the English language is complex. Many words do not sound as they are written. That is why it is such a difficult language to learn.

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