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Pronouncing Scandinavian names - pet peeve

190 replies

dylexicdementor11 · 04/06/2024 10:14

This is meant as a friendly reminder to all the Liv’s, Sören’s, Astrid’s, Freya’s etc out there.

As a Scandinavian, I think it’s quite charming that Scandi names are all the rage. However, if you do not speak a Scandinavian language and you decide to name your child a Scandinavian name, or if you have a Scandinavian name please be aware that you are probably mispronouncing the name.
So if a person that actually speaks the language correctly, pronounces the name, please don’t throw a hissy fit and correct them. 😊

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dylexicdementor11 · 04/06/2024 18:12

SpringBunnies · 04/06/2024 13:04

The issue is people correcting the Swedish or Danish pronunciation. Not how it's said in English. It's like if an Irish person says an obviously Irish name is a certain way, and you go and correct that Irish person to the English pronunciation.

Yes, exactly.

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Workasateamanddoitmyway · 04/06/2024 17:52

dylexicdementor11 · 04/06/2024 10:14

This is meant as a friendly reminder to all the Liv’s, Sören’s, Astrid’s, Freya’s etc out there.

As a Scandinavian, I think it’s quite charming that Scandi names are all the rage. However, if you do not speak a Scandinavian language and you decide to name your child a Scandinavian name, or if you have a Scandinavian name please be aware that you are probably mispronouncing the name.
So if a person that actually speaks the language correctly, pronounces the name, please don’t throw a hissy fit and correct them. 😊

My name is Norwegian but my parents changed the 'e' to an 'a' so it's pronounced the Norwegian way by English people (and an 'e' at the end of a name sounds like an 'a') Great foresight..
The Scandinavian way of pronouncing Scandinavian names is often prettier. Eg Liv is pronounced Leeve and Astrid is pronounced Ustri. Bit softer.

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:46

MumChp · 04/06/2024 17:37

@stripeyoldcat

It's seems easier for Scandinavians to pronounce their names in British than for the Britishs to pronounce in Scandinavian language.

It's standard for them to introduce themselves by the 'right' language depending on location. They don't even think twice.

If we’re in England, Australia or another English speaking country we would pronounce them in English. To make it easier for people to understand. If I were in another Scandinavian country and the name was pronounced just slightly different, I’d pronounce it like the way I’d do in my own country. I don’t know anyone here who would not do this naturally, just like you say.

Sera1989 · 04/06/2024 17:42

I agree that I think names are generally pronounced the "common" way for the country if that's the owner's nationality and where they live. If you named your baby Genevieve in England you might have never even heard it pronounced the French way so that would sound wrong to you

MumChp · 04/06/2024 17:37

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:32

Same here. We don’t mind.

@stripeyoldcat

It's seems easier for Scandinavians to pronounce their names in British than for the Britishs to pronounce in Scandinavian language.

It's standard for them to introduce themselves by the 'right' language depending on location. They don't even think twice.

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:32

MumChp · 04/06/2024 16:38

My children have dual citizenship British/Scandinavian country.
Their names are pronounced different in Scandinavian than UK. To be honest? No one minds.

Same here. We don’t mind.

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:32

But it’s the same with Scandi people using English names. A friend named her daughter Miley. But they and everyone else call her Maj-li.

MistyHazelFox · 04/06/2024 17:31

TooMuchRedMaybe · 04/06/2024 17:18

My pet peeve is Magnus. It’s not supposed to be pronounced Mag-nuss with a hard G, it’s Mang-nuss.

In Scottish accent or in Scandi kanguage

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:24

TooMuchRedMaybe · 04/06/2024 17:18

My pet peeve is Magnus. It’s not supposed to be pronounced Mag-nuss with a hard G, it’s Mang-nuss.

This. So annoying with the G which is silent. 😅

stripeyoldcat · 04/06/2024 17:24

KirstenBlest · 04/06/2024 13:50

No, but it varies. it's near Shishten in Norwegian, Kishten in Swedish. Keersten elswhere I think.
Feel free to correct me if you know otherwise.

Kerstin is absolutely not Kishten in Swedish. It varies where in Sweden you come from, but Shestiin or Sherstiin.

TooMuchRedMaybe · 04/06/2024 17:18

My pet peeve is Magnus. It’s not supposed to be pronounced Mag-nuss with a hard G, it’s Mang-nuss.

AgathaAllAlong · 04/06/2024 17:13

But you are mistaken to correct an English speaker. It's their name, in their language. That's like an Italian speaker insisting on correcting a "Bruno", "Marco" or "Angela" to an Italian pronunciation. The scandi version might be how you originally pronounce the name in the original language but it's not how you pronounce their name.

Freya is a standard Scottish name, anyway.

MumChp · 04/06/2024 16:38

My children have dual citizenship British/Scandinavian country.
Their names are pronounced different in Scandinavian than UK. To be honest? No one minds.

Pinkdressthatwasnt · 04/06/2024 16:36

Well it depends doesn't it @HowWasTheEnd?

Obviously if it's a difficult name to pronounce, or there are different variants in different places, that's one thing - at least initially.

But if someone constantly can't be bothered saying your name as you wish it to be said, that's something else. I used to work with an Annemarie (not really, but something similar). A colleague insisted on calling her Anna Maria all the time. Not sure why. It did bug her.
The colleague was corrected. She was of the opinion it didn't matter.

Some people don't mind different variants of their name being used but some do. It's obviously different if you're just meeting someone for the first time. You'd use the pronunciation you're most familiar with then. But I'd consider it impolite to continue to do so unless the owner of the name was fine with that.

HowWasTheEnd · 04/06/2024 16:16

I don't get why so many people get so upset about names being said incorrectly. Unless people are trying to be deliberately unkind why does it matter is a name isnt said properly.

I have a foreign name that doesn't have a common English pronunciation so I get called all sorts of variants.

FoleyHuck · 04/06/2024 15:59

Violinist64 · 04/06/2024 14:51

I taught a little girl called Freya a few years ago whose mother was Norwegian and pronounced it in the same way as most English speakers.

Freya is on our list for a girl and my Swedish Husband pronounces it the same way as I do - although he can pronounce it the Swedish way, he doesn't as we don't live there.

Same way that he and everyone else pronounces his Niece's very traditionally Swedish name with a W sound rather than the V sound it has in Sweden, because she was born and raised in the UK.

Pinkdressthatwasnt · 04/06/2024 15:46

@honeylulu Oscar means something like 'deer friend' in Irish.
His granny was enchanted into the form of a deer.
His dad's name (Oisín) means little deer.

@Sue152 Saoirse is said more like Seer-sheh, or sometimes Sayr-sheh, than Sur-shuh.

Westfacing · 04/06/2024 15:44

Very early 80s in Stockholm I couldn't work out who someone meant when she was referring to the Wimbledon champion Bee-yorn Bee-yoori.

Pinkdressthatwasnt · 04/06/2024 15:37

I admit I was also lulled into my presumptions as I knew that Oscar Wilde, the famous Irish writer, was named after his godfather King Oskar I of Sweden.

@honeylulu Napolean contributed to the naming of him (the baby who later became king of Sweden) or so the story goes. Napolean waa fan of the Irish Ossian tales which were popular at the time. Oscar was Ossian's (Oisín's) son.

But the name has meaning in both Scandinavian and Irish and as pp said there was a large amount of cross-over. It's hard to be sure of the origin of really old names.

Ygfrhj · 04/06/2024 15:29

Didn't Scandinavians invade and live in England for centuries? There must be plenty of Scandinavian origin names that are passed down and are just English names now, like Kirsten etc.

Pinkdressthatwasnt · 04/06/2024 15:28

JaneJeffer · 04/06/2024 14:33

Oscar is an Irish name pronounced, wait for it, Oscar

It is an Irish name but it's often pronounced in Irish as though the first letter was u. Like Oisín is Ush-een.
It can vary a bit depending on where you are in the country though. Definitely a u sound in Munster, probably Connacht.
Also, most Irish people don't say the name in Irish, so it's Oscar then.

honeylulu · 04/06/2024 15:26

Phantasmagorically · 04/06/2024 14:34

Lol

Thanks both! I don't know how I got that so wrong.

The baby names book I had said it was "Old Norse" which I assumed to be Scandinavian whereas I now understand thanks to Google that many originally names were assimilated into Irish Gaelic when the Vikings settled. So "Aisgaar" became "Oscur".

I admit I was also lulled into my presumptions as I knew that Oscar Wilde, the famous Irish writer, was named after his godfather King Oskar I of Sweden.

Sorry everyone, I feel as thick as pigshit now 😂 Never too late to educate myself further!

Phantasmagorically · 04/06/2024 15:13

JaneJeffer · 04/06/2024 15:08

I make a phlegmy back of the throat sound instead of a clean K sound. It’s hard to explain!

ah yeah the ch is there for sure but I write it as a k as I don't know what a ch sound is called and people might think ch as in changes.

JaneJeffer · 04/06/2024 15:08

Phantasmagorically · 04/06/2024 14:42

how would you pronounce it?

I make a phlegmy back of the throat sound instead of a clean K sound. It’s hard to explain!

MarieAntoinetteQueenOfFrance · 04/06/2024 14:55

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 04/06/2024 14:17

Surely the correct way to pronounce a name is the way the person who's name it is does so. It might not be the original pronunciation, but that's how they say their name.

I agree, however if I say my name with the correct pronunciation English people will ask again... and again... and again.

Until I pronounce my name the English way. It's soo frustrating!!
But I also know that the 2nd syllable of my name doesn't exist in the English language. So I gess English people just can't make sense of it.