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Are popular names really all that bad?

112 replies

QueSyrahSyrah · 18/05/2024 19:53

I see often on MN name choices being warned against as they're 'so popular' and 'everywhere' (but at the same time, don't go too far against the grain because nobody will be able to spell or pronounce it!).

I've just been reading a couple of articles about the 2022 ONS baby names report that was published the other day and from +/- 300,000 boys born in 2002 in England and Wales, about 4500 of them were the most popular Noah, so 1.5%.

Of +/- 300,000 girls, about 3000 were Olivia, so 1%.

Obviously there's variance from area to area and by demographic so the percentage will probably be a bit higher in some places than others, but 1-1.5% doesn't seem all that overwhelming common to me.

I've spent a lot of time stressing myself out that some of our favourite names are in the top 10, but based on the above information I've decided to let it go and use the name we love regardless of how close to the top of the list it is.

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Wistfullythinking · 20/05/2024 14:46

HeddaGarbled · 18/05/2024 20:39

I agree that they’re popular for a reason - because lots of people like them. I’ve got a popular 60s/70s name. It’s fine. Easy for people to remember and makes me laugh when there are three of us sitting in a row at meetings.

Exactly!

DuchessOfSausage · 20/05/2024 14:42

If the name is very popular, eventually the fashion will change, and that name will be linked with an age group.
The names that were popular when I was born now say 'woman aged about 50'.
They're still nice names - 'they were popular for a reason'.

spiderplantmum · 20/05/2024 13:54

I have a unique name in this country (but very common in my parents' home country) and I really like the fact that when someone says it, they mean me. I don't mind having to spell it out all the time, it's really a minor inconvenience.

I had 3 Laurens and two Lauras in my primary school class. I think the downside might be that they were all unique kids but were unfortunately lumped into a group based on nothing more than their parents' choice of name (they were called "the laurens and lauras"). Maybe not a big deal, but I certainly was not grouped like that, ever.

Salacia · 20/05/2024 08:27

To be honest with the rise of the internet, search engines etc having a less unique name may be a massive blessing.

Thinkbiglittleone · 19/05/2024 18:24

Our DS has a "popular" name and I understand why it's popular as we still love it.

His best mate has a very unique name and then came along another lad with the same name and same spelling in their class - luck of the draw. I'm not sure kids care. I especially find it weird this trend of people hunting down unpopular names, surely you pick a name you like and you are done.

crumpet · 19/05/2024 17:22

Go for what you like. There were 4 Helens in my class, and none of them suffered trauma as a result

DinnaeFashYersel · 19/05/2024 17:19

Names are popular cause lots of people like them.

So the opposite of bad.

PlainCake · 19/05/2024 17:10

My kids have very normal but uncommon names (think Peter and Jane). They would far rather be called Olivia and Max 😂

DuchessOfSausage · 19/05/2024 17:08

Popular names are popular for a reason! Fashion

TansySorrel · 19/05/2024 12:45

I was always one of two of my name. I didn't mind. Dd was one of three Lucys so was Lucy J. She has never complained about. (She would if she minded.)

Hedjwitch · 19/05/2024 12:29

I think the social and geographically factors are also interesting. Here in a fairly low income part of Central Scotland,Olivias and Georges are not thick on the ground. In fact,I've only ever met one Olivia and only elderly Georges.

My kids are adults now but amongst their peer group popular names were Ellie,Kirsty/Kirsten,Lucy,Hannah,Sarah,Molly,Finlay,BenDaniel,Kyle,Andrew,Connor,James, Angus

This group is now having their own children and names are Archie,Finn,Ava,Isla,Noah

BoleynMemories13 · 19/05/2024 11:41

TheaBrandt · 19/05/2024 09:19

Generic and confusing. So odd that the majority pick the same 10 names. There are literally hundreds of “normal” perfectly nice underused names. It’s not between Olivia or Moon Unit.

Off top of my head Miranda Antonia Susannah Tess Hester Mary so refreshing after Eve / Amelia / Isabel which sorry are just so dull now

I'm sorry but that's ridiculous snobbery. Of course the 'majority' are going to pick the top 10 names. That's literally how statistics work. Once people stop using those names so much and they fall out of favour, different names that didn't use to be so popular take their place and become the new top ten, picked by the 'majority'. It cycles round in trends (and some of the names you mention were ridiculously popular themselves once upon a time and some people may find as dull and boring as you find the current top 10 if they know loads of 50-70 year olds with those names).

The figures show that it's clearly not a case of everyone picking the same names any more. The number of people opting for top 10 names is reducing year upon year, but there will always be a top 10 picked by more people than others no matter how widely spread people's choices become!

I think many on here often forget that those of us who post regularly on here, with a keen interest in names, actually make up a very small percentage of society who are aware of name statistics. Most people just pick something they love without a second thought for how popular it may be (as, to most people, it really doesn't matter). Popular names are, by nature, more likely to be on people's radars as they are the names people are currently more use to hearing on small children. Humans are naturally influenced by each other after all. Therefore the current popular and up and coming rising names tend to become more and more popular for a while, before people eventually tire of them or start to associate them with their own generation. Most people don't wish to pick a name which reminds them of loads of people they went to school with, so by that point the names start dropping down the charts (like what is happening now with Jessica, Chloe, Sophie etc). I predict Olivia, Amelia, Isabella, Ava, Evie, Noah, Oscar, Alfie, Finley, Lucas etc will have a similar fate in the next 10 years or so when Olivias and Amelias etc start having babies of their own in their droves.

Funnily enough, the most popular names among new parents at my school these days tend to be Sophie, Chloe, Jessica, Amy, Hannah, Megan, Lauren, Jack, Josh, Daniel, Tom, James, Ryan, Sam, Ben. There's a reason those names are now all in decline. Society eventually started to tire of them. The same will definitely happen to the current top 10 at some point. By then, the top 10 will probably be Maeve, Margot, Luna, Harper, Aria, Penelope, Ophelia, Lyra, Hallie, Bonnie and Arlo, Luca, Roman, Rory, Reuben, Elijah, Ezra, Hudson, Caleb, Harrison (just random examples of current trends, not an actual prediction!), and by then those names that all seem to be currently all the rage will be the ones people are questioning why are people still picking them?!

Basically, there will always be popular names. Questioning why people pick them when there are so many other names out there is missing the point of name statistics completely. You personally might not understand why people want to choose them, but the actual reasons behind why the majority do are pretty obvious.

SemperIdem · 19/05/2024 10:43

buolaoir · 19/05/2024 09:02

It sure does. But on the other hand there are none of either in my child’s school year.
My point was, this isn’t like the 80’s, 90’s etc where you would almost always get 1 of several in the class. Olivia wouldn’t even be in the top ten with these figures if it was in the 90’s.

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Agree with you there. The usage of Olivia is incomparable to the usage of say, Claire in the 70’s.

I can’t move at work for middle aged Claire’s! Also an unbelievable amount of Mark’s.

Princessfluffy · 19/05/2024 10:41

In my DD's primary class of 33 kids there were 3 girls with the same name and also 3 boys with the same name.

Just choose your favourite name OP!

qotsa · 19/05/2024 09:44

spanieleyes · 18/05/2024 20:42

My son has a popular name but he was the only one with that name in a school of 450. He then moved to a tiny school of 60 and there were two others with the same name in his class!

Haha. My DS went to a tiny school and in his class of 25 there were 3 Olivia's, 3 Oliver's and 3 Jack's. 😮

PitterPatter3 · 19/05/2024 09:40

SpelledOlivia · 19/05/2024 09:10

As a 1980s Olivia I'd suggest it's not worth worrying about name popularity at a given time. When my mum named me Olivia she liked it because it wasn't widely used. Obviously that backfired almost immediately 😆 (nb this is US data) https://nametrends.info/names/Olivia

I used to have to spell my name out all the time for people. Quite like that I don't have to any more!

In many ways I think this is the best kind of name. It’s as if you’re slightly ahead of your time and your name is likely to be perceived as youthful.

So much better with a name associated with an older generation/on its way out.

SomeEnchantedEvening18 · 19/05/2024 09:27

I was so fixated on popularity, I'd spend ages trawling the ONS sites and would even go on the popularity by specific area! We went for a name that was around 70-80th on the list and there's 3 of them in my son's nursery class! It doesn't bother me now but it's just funny how it all works out! I will definitely be more laid back if we have another one.

TheaBrandt · 19/05/2024 09:19

Generic and confusing. So odd that the majority pick the same 10 names. There are literally hundreds of “normal” perfectly nice underused names. It’s not between Olivia or Moon Unit.

Off top of my head Miranda Antonia Susannah Tess Hester Mary so refreshing after Eve / Amelia / Isabel which sorry are just so dull now

Daisypod · 19/05/2024 09:10

We named our second born a top 10 name, I was worried about this but it was a name with significance to both me and dh and we both loved the name so we went for it. We have him some slightly more unusual names for his middle names so he could use one if he ever felt bothered about being one of a load of his name.
He is 17 now and has never been in a class or even year group with someone with the same name but funnily enough several other boys had his more unusual middle names.
Just choose the name you like as it will be their name no matter what and they will be that person.

NotTheReal · 19/05/2024 09:10

My DC have very top ten names. Yet when I named them 10+ years ago they weren’t! But saying that one of them is the only one in his year.

In our school there are lots of Georges, Samuels and Oscars.

SpelledOlivia · 19/05/2024 09:10

As a 1980s Olivia I'd suggest it's not worth worrying about name popularity at a given time. When my mum named me Olivia she liked it because it wasn't widely used. Obviously that backfired almost immediately 😆 (nb this is US data) https://nametrends.info/names/Olivia

I used to have to spell my name out all the time for people. Quite like that I don't have to any more!

Olivia – Name Trends

https://nametrends.info/names/Olivia

buolaoir · 19/05/2024 09:02

SemperIdem · 19/05/2024 06:09

There are 3 Amelia’s and an Emilia in my daughters school year of 40. It happens.

It sure does. But on the other hand there are none of either in my child’s school year.
My point was, this isn’t like the 80’s, 90’s etc where you would almost always get 1 of several in the class. Olivia wouldn’t even be in the top ten with these figures if it was in the 90’s.

ExcitedButNervous0424 · 19/05/2024 08:58

garlictwist · 19/05/2024 06:31

I'm 50 and my name is Megan which wasn't a very popular name when I was a child. I never met another one.

Now there are tons of Megans. There are another three in my office. I really like being Megan S. It feels a bit like being in a club. I don't see the issue in it.

My cousin is almost 16 and she’s a Megan. I think it’s such a beautiful name ❤️

ExcitedButNervous0424 · 19/05/2024 08:57

My oldest son is the only child in his year with his name (100 kids) and I have never met another child with his name. However, his name is a normal one that doesn’t make people roll their eyes.

My other son has one other boy in his year with the sabe name (60 kids) and I know a few others with the name too. It’s a normal name but not one that is overly popular I think.

It’s hard trying to find a name that isn’t so popular that they’re everywhere, and a name that doesn’t make people inwardly cringe or think, WTF?! 😂

QueSyrahSyrah · 19/05/2024 08:45

@Duckies Funny you picked Willow, that was number 1 girls name a couple of years ago in our area (which publishes its own top 10 stats, we're British territory but not in the UK)

Our trends follow the UK ones largely but with a few notable differences. There's a girl name we like that's been around the top of the UK list for years but hasn't been in our local top 10 at all, as far back as I've looked.

The top boys name here in 2022 didn't even make our top ten in 2023, so who can really predict what the most popular this year will be!

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