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Thoughts on these nicknames! Why yes or why no

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BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 19:58

Thoughts on these nicknames that would be used 95% of the time for full names.

Lily

Millie
Liv/Livi
Mia
Emmy

Anyone have experience with these names? Likes/dislikes?

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Mumofgirls2017 · 27/03/2024 13:20

They’re all ok if a bit overused but will be very fitting with peers. I’d probably choose Lily.

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 12:58

@PotatoPudding , I didn't Smile.

It's a fine line IMO. If you have no intention of ever using the full name, it seems pointless to put it on the BC (other than the MN 'to have choices') but some don't look like names.

The trend now other than on here is to put the day-to-day version on the BC (e.g. Alfie, Kit, Rosie)

I can think of adults who use both versions and some who only use the diminutive,
e.g. Christopher/Chris, Jonathan/Jon, Christina/Tina, Alexandra/Alex,
and some who are Tom, Tony, Mandy, Vicky or Beth on their BC

I'd probably be a bit surprised if Pete, Dave, Liz, or Becky weren't really Peter, David, Elizabeth, Victoria and Rebecca.

OldBeyondMyYears · 27/03/2024 12:57

Aw nicknames for what exactly? These are actual names...🤷‍♀️

PotatoPudding · 27/03/2024 12:50

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 12:45

@PotatoPudding , it's not common but it is a name in its own right.
Kate could be short for Catherine (and other spellings), but I know a Kate who is really Katie.

That’s my point. Kate is short for Catherine but why bother naming a child one name when you have no intention of actually using it? It causes confusion because people don’t check if it’s short for something else.

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 12:45

@PotatoPudding , it's not common but it is a name in its own right.
Kate could be short for Catherine (and other spellings), but I know a Kate who is really Katie.

PotatoPudding · 27/03/2024 12:39

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 12:18

Dan is a name in its own right. One of Jacob's sons.

It is but it’s less common and most people wouldn’t assume it’s just Dan. If someone had to make a bank transfer to Dan, they would most likely check it wasn’t short for Daniel. If they had to transfer money to Kate, they probably wouldn’t check if it was short for Katherine.

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 12:18

Dan is a name in its own right. One of Jacob's sons.

PotatoPudding · 27/03/2024 12:06

Pombearprincess · 27/03/2024 11:03

I have a long unusual name, and use a diminutive. I think it's very common at least in the UK, and have never experienced any issues with officialdom etc assuming that it was my actual name. Same with DH who has a common name and uses a common diminutive. Maybe it's different now because so many diminutives are used as actual names whereas my generation calling a child a diminutive as an actual name was virtually unheard off. But then I work with a bloke called Christopher and everyone calls him Sam so who knows.

Some names are more commonly the diminutive, therefore it’s obvious to check, such as Em ro Sam for a girl or Dan for a boy. Then you have diminutives that are names in their own right, such as Anna, Lisa, Sandra, Max, etc. My name has two diminutives that are both common as names on their own, so people never think to check.

Pombearprincess · 27/03/2024 11:03

I have a long unusual name, and use a diminutive. I think it's very common at least in the UK, and have never experienced any issues with officialdom etc assuming that it was my actual name. Same with DH who has a common name and uses a common diminutive. Maybe it's different now because so many diminutives are used as actual names whereas my generation calling a child a diminutive as an actual name was virtually unheard off. But then I work with a bloke called Christopher and everyone calls him Sam so who knows.

KirstenBlest · 27/03/2024 10:03

If someone makes you a bank transfer and the name doesn't match it won't go through.

Also, if you name your child Millie short for Emilia, you have no say when you find that all her friends know her as Emmy when she's a teenager.

TheaBrandt · 27/03/2024 06:14

I concur. People with different/ varied faffing about names is the bane of my life so annoying. I assist clients with documents and the name has to be absolutely correct and consistent or the document fails.

PotatoPudding · 27/03/2024 05:45

You mention somewhere about giving them a choice. In every single case I can think of, they go by the diminutive their parents chose because it’s hard to get people to start calling you by another name, and, nine times out of ten, it doesn’t register when someone calls you by a different version of your name.

PotatoPudding · 27/03/2024 05:38

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:32

What issues did it cause? Genuinely curious

Company flights being booked in the wrong name.

Issues with companies house.

Issues with college enrolment.

Issues with NI number.

Issues with tax returns.

Issues with qualification/education certificates.

The wrong name can invalidate a lot of things and it’s absolutely exhausting and tedious to have to get things corrected at the time.

Starting new companies has been awful because I have never once been asked if I prefer the shortened version. Therefore email addresses have always been in the ‘wrong’ name, leading to me constantly having to correct colleagues, clients, suppliers, etc.

If you want your child to be known as Milli, name her Milli.

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 26/03/2024 23:18

Lily has always been a name in its own right, it’s an obvious flower name. So it would be my pick! Even if people go for Lilia or Lillian as a longer name, it’s also fine as it is.

Second choice Mia - again because it is considered a name in its own right now (like Jack was originally for John but some aren’t aware of that now) - even a few people still put Maria or Marina on the BC.

I find the sound of Milly, Emmy, Livi quite cutesy - maybe because I would assume they were diminutives (particularly the latter two).

Liv is used as a given name in Scandinavia but despite US actress Liv Tyler, I don’t think the name is very well known here.

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 23:11

KirstenBlest · 26/03/2024 22:49

@BeFirmZebra , it can cause issues like people not knowing that your name is really Emilia not Millie, so things like post redirection, plane ticket not matching the passport, email being set up as [email protected] not [email protected], etc
Also if you never use the full name or dislike it, it's a bit weird to be called it.

I have the opposite problem - I'm something like Jill and get people assuming I'm really Gillian/Jillian.

Good points! I guess I’ve never really thought about those aspects because my own name doesn’t have any nickname potential. So I thought it might be cool to have options. Especially if they grow to not be a fan of their longer name.

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MaloneMeadow · 26/03/2024 22:54

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:42

Never realized that about Millie. Where are you from if you don’t mind me asking

Northern Ireland. I have also heard it used in Scotland. Basically slang for a chavvy girl

KirstenBlest · 26/03/2024 22:49

@BeFirmZebra , it can cause issues like people not knowing that your name is really Emilia not Millie, so things like post redirection, plane ticket not matching the passport, email being set up as [email protected] not [email protected], etc
Also if you never use the full name or dislike it, it's a bit weird to be called it.

I have the opposite problem - I'm something like Jill and get people assuming I'm really Gillian/Jillian.

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:42

MaloneMeadow · 26/03/2024 22:35

Lily & Mia are names in their own right, not nicknames

A millie is a derogatory term where we are

Like Liv and Emmy

Never realized that about Millie. Where are you from if you don’t mind me asking

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BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:40

TheaBrandt · 26/03/2024 21:16

Surely the whole point of nick names is the person or their friends chooses them - they evolve. Seems like weird to choose a long unusable name then decide in advance what the nick name will be.

I think it’s important to know and like the possible nicknames for a name you’re choosing since they could come up. And yes they might evolve and change but also can sort of happen based on what you call them from the get go

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MaloneMeadow · 26/03/2024 22:38

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:36

Lol ok then …

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MrsTerryPratchett · 26/03/2024 22:38

Nobody needs more than 1 name

Needs? No. Wants? Maybe. DD has a long name I liked, but she doesn't. So she uses the short version. DH uses his middle name. I only ever use my short version and I have two versions of that, depending on when people met me, they call me one or t'other.

And @NannyR those names are both -ie or -y which is just a cute version, yes longer but not really different. How do you lengthen 'Emmy' which was one of OP's suggestions? It doesn't work like shortening longer names does.

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:36

Lol ok then …

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MaloneMeadow · 26/03/2024 22:35

Lily & Mia are names in their own right, not nicknames

A millie is a derogatory term where we are

Like Liv and Emmy

BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:35

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/03/2024 21:06

I don't understand why you wouldn't give options. Emmeline can call herself Emme or Em or Emmy but Emme can't decide to be Emmeline.

I would give her a full name but considering which nicknames are common for them first and if there’s anything glaring that should discourage me from one versus another

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BeFirmZebra · 26/03/2024 22:32

PotatoPudding · 26/03/2024 21:06

I just don’t understand the point in naming a child one name but calling them another. My mother did this to me and I hate it and it causes a surprising number of issues.

What issues did it cause? Genuinely curious

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