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Everyone pronounces our daughter's name wrong

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StarShine23 · 13/02/2024 09:09

Hi all, advice needed please.

We named our daughter after someone we know from abroad. Its a pretty simple name but we had never heard it in the UK before. Baby is now 1 and the name has become more popular here, but it has a different pronunciation than we use. The problem we have is we don't like way its pronounced here, but everyone we meet now calls her by the UK version rather than her name, even though we correct them.

Do we:
(a) stick to our original pronunciation, even though it will be a battle for her growing up when other people with the same name all pronounce it the UK way
(b) accept the UK version, even though we dont like it and to us, doesn't suit her
(c) change her name

Has anyone else been through this? What did you do / wish you had done?

We feel awful that we have unwillingly picked something that is going to be tricky for her now all her life, but we love the name.

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pictoosh · 14/02/2024 12:09

I had one person in my past who called me 'Ivanhoe' as that is what she thought she heard and she got stuck on it.
I just answered to it. Made me laugh.

pictoosh · 14/02/2024 12:08

I agree @PopandFizz
It's not an issue unless you want it to be one.
I have an unusual name that people mishear, sometimes obstinately. Haven't got the the fucks to give.

PopandFizz · 14/02/2024 12:02

You make it sound like it will be a massive issue. Plenty of names like naomi, Aaron, Lyla have this issue.

It's not like every day she will be correcting people. She will introduce herself to people verbally most of the time, it'll just be registers at school and maybe people over email until they meet her. Really not a big deal

Karatema · 14/02/2024 11:10

My name has been, frequently, mispronounced all my life (and I'm now twiddly umpty five!)
When I was at school, there were several girls with the other version of my name and I remember saying to my Mum that I wished she'd called me that! She told me I was so very special, I had to have my own special name! I loved that so to this day (many, many moons later) I correct people and my family correct people on my behalf (often with the added message that they don't want me to thump them if they continue to pronounce it incorrectly! 🤣)
I still have friends who spell it incorrectly but pronounce it correctly.
Tell her how special she is to have her own pronounciation and I'm sure she'll embrace the difference 😀

healthadvice123 · 14/02/2024 10:40

I have a name that is said very differently by french people as they have a version on if, when i worked with french company i just accepted how they said it , was no big deal. Also some people whose second language is english often don’t pronounce it fully correctly but again i don’t have an issue as i probably with an english accent don’t always get their name spot on depending n pronunciation. Accents sometimes make it more difficult

TwirlBar · 14/02/2024 10:40

Gymmum82 · 14/02/2024 05:42

My friend is northern Irish (Belfast) and her child is called Saoirse. She pronounces it Sor-sha. Ive since heard other people say Seer-sha. There is definitely more than one way to pronounce it

Well, in this case there's the right way and the wrong way I suppose.
Look, it's her child's name and she can choose to pronounce it whatever way she pleases, but sor-cha is not how the word saoirse is pronounced in any dialect of Irish (it's a word in Irish not just a name).
Some people do get it wrong and there is another Irish name Sorcha (pron Surr-i-cha) that seems to get mixed up with it. It is harder if you don't speak Irish - don't know about your friend but less likely in Belfast.

MasterBeth · 14/02/2024 10:38

Another2Cats · 13/02/2024 20:43

"...its the UK version that seems to shorten the middle vowel. But that may just be what we are used to. Its a very nuanced difference."

My eldest DD has a name that can be pronounced in those two same ways as well, only the English (or perhaps it's American?) version is with a longer vowel sound.

Her name is Daria. In the native language of her father, this is pronounced exactly as you read it, Da-ria with a short initial "a". But I come across a lot of people pronouncing it more like Darhh-ria.

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"Pronounced exactly as you would read it" is such a nonsense phrase.

American English doesn't have the English short A sound so, as you say, they would pronounce it exactly as they would read it i.e. Daah-ria.

Think of how different accents on the UK would pronounce the name Jane or the final syllable in Ricky or Nicky. None of them are saying a different name, or saying it wrong, they're just pronouncing sounds in the way their accents pronounce those sounds.

My Yorkshire relations and my London relations pronounce my own name differently. I don't tell them off!

Mashedorboiled · 14/02/2024 10:33

I mean, I wouldn't expect everyone to change of course, @WhatsTheUseOfWorrying, but it would be nice for friends and colleagues to use her preferred pronunciation surely?

Reallyneedwine · 14/02/2024 10:33

I think you mean unwittingly rather than unwillingly 😏

theeyeshaveit82 · 14/02/2024 10:28

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 14/02/2024 09:52

I knew a Niamh. Everyone here (England) used to call her ‘neev’. She ‘corrected’ the pronunciation every time: it should be something more like ‘nee-av’. Fuck me it was pointless and tedious.

you must have spent a lot of time with her to witness all these numerous times?!

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 14/02/2024 10:23

Mashedorboiled · 14/02/2024 10:12

It wasn't pointless to her obviously @WhatsTheUseOfWorrying.
Could you not have given it a go?

That’s sort of the point really. People who insist on a ‘proper’ pronunciation of a name - whether it’s an unusual name or a variation on a spelling or a name pronounced differently in a different place - are pointlessly expecting the world to change for them.

If I go abroad and people pronounce my name as they expect to, or even if they use a local equivalent (like Marie for Mary), I just accept that’s how it is.

Mashedorboiled · 14/02/2024 10:12

It wasn't pointless to her obviously @WhatsTheUseOfWorrying.
Could you not have given it a go?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 14/02/2024 09:52

I knew a Niamh. Everyone here (England) used to call her ‘neev’. She ‘corrected’ the pronunciation every time: it should be something more like ‘nee-av’. Fuck me it was pointless and tedious.

theeyeshaveit82 · 14/02/2024 09:42

oh and @ZoyaTheDestroyer did you note the little dig at “boring” names?

theeyeshaveit82 · 14/02/2024 09:41

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 14/02/2024 09:01

The irony of calling people who are using the legitimate local pronunciation ‘stupid’ and then completely misspelling Aoife.

good spot

take note @Ottersmith 😂

Calliopespa · 14/02/2024 09:31

Treaclewell · 14/02/2024 09:26

I got caught out when calling the register a couple of times.. After a number of Arun's, Arran's, and similar, I got Aaron, which I pronounced as in church readings of Moses' brother, to be shouted down by the class. I got so bothered by a succession of these that I consulted a Jewish friend, and confirmed I was right originally, but not when people had named their son after Elvis' middle name. And I got Michelle whose father was Italian misgendered at first.

Shameless thread derail from me but is your username related to the one at Binsey?

Treaclewell · 14/02/2024 09:26

I got caught out when calling the register a couple of times.. After a number of Arun's, Arran's, and similar, I got Aaron, which I pronounced as in church readings of Moses' brother, to be shouted down by the class. I got so bothered by a succession of these that I consulted a Jewish friend, and confirmed I was right originally, but not when people had named their son after Elvis' middle name. And I got Michelle whose father was Italian misgendered at first.

shearwater2 · 14/02/2024 09:09

Names get pronounced differently around the world or even different parts of the country and may even have a humorous meaning in another language. Just ask those close to her to pronounce it properly, it's all you can do.

My name gets shortened all the time by people I don't know well and I tend to use the full version, it's just because people already know someone with the short version. I decided life is too short to be bothered about it.

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 14/02/2024 09:01

Ottersmith · 13/02/2024 20:47

Arghh. I hear you! My baby has got a rare name which isn't phonetic and a different word and pronounced differently in the country we live in. I correct them but they get so confused. It's all on them though they are so stupid. What if he had a Vietnamese name or an Indian name? They need to get with the times. People are so basic and simple about names but honestly lots of the young adults I work with have changed their names to random words anyway. You just have to carry on with it. It's their problem. Saying something it rhymes with helps people and nips it in the bud. ' it's Aiofa rhymes with fifa.' type thing.
Also I have an unusual name and I have to help people remember but it's no problem, I'm glad it's not boring.

The irony of calling people who are using the legitimate local pronunciation ‘stupid’ and then completely misspelling Aoife.

justteanbiscuits · 14/02/2024 08:58

Ottersmith · 13/02/2024 20:47

Arghh. I hear you! My baby has got a rare name which isn't phonetic and a different word and pronounced differently in the country we live in. I correct them but they get so confused. It's all on them though they are so stupid. What if he had a Vietnamese name or an Indian name? They need to get with the times. People are so basic and simple about names but honestly lots of the young adults I work with have changed their names to random words anyway. You just have to carry on with it. It's their problem. Saying something it rhymes with helps people and nips it in the bud. ' it's Aiofa rhymes with fifa.' type thing.
Also I have an unusual name and I have to help people remember but it's no problem, I'm glad it's not boring.

This - giving someone who may struggle a way to remember it is so helpful. I know others dismiss people who do struggle to remember as stupid (ah, lovely lovely MN ignorance), but for some it is a struggle.

Beautiful3 · 14/02/2024 08:50

Sounds like it's a language issue. Your child name is not of English origin, so the pronunciation is different. My colleague is French, gave her daughter a French name. She got annoyed that everyone mispronounced it. Well we're not French, and wouldn't know how to say it their way. She ended up changing the name. I think that's the risk you take with living in another country. My neighbour is Chinese and she's given her children very English names. She didn't want any problems with their names, which is very sensible.

liveforsummer · 14/02/2024 07:54

It depends if it's charging the name (ie the Sara/Sarah type example) or just a case of accent. My dc both have names that are traditionally from continental European countries. They are pronounced differently there but also all over the UK depending on accent, (common with vowels). None of us have ever thought to correct anyone in the way you would with Sara/sarah when h are obviously different names. Without telling us the name we can't tell which yours is

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 14/02/2024 07:43

Sorry OP, but if you have chosen a name which has an established anglicised pronunciation then you can try to force your preferred pronunciation but it will be a battle.

A lot of the examples pp have given are simply mispronunciations, not established differing pronunciations between countries. This isn’t unique to the UK. You could name your child Catherine or David in France and request the English pronunciations but people would look at you askance and then call them cat-reen or da-veed regardless; it’s almost impossible to get an Italian to sound the English pronunciation of Lisa instead of their pronunciation lee-za.

Paddingtonthebear · 14/02/2024 07:15

Just realised I have a few people in my life with names that people pronounce in various ways. Michelle (MishElle/Mee-chelle), Nadine (Na-deen/Nay-deen), Alicia (A-lissia/ Aleesha)

YourLocal · 14/02/2024 06:28

A ! im sure it’s fine a friend has a simple name (Maxine) but some people just say Max eyene but she just gave herself a nickname Maxy