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Everyone pronounces our daughter's name wrong

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StarShine23 · 13/02/2024 09:09

Hi all, advice needed please.

We named our daughter after someone we know from abroad. Its a pretty simple name but we had never heard it in the UK before. Baby is now 1 and the name has become more popular here, but it has a different pronunciation than we use. The problem we have is we don't like way its pronounced here, but everyone we meet now calls her by the UK version rather than her name, even though we correct them.

Do we:
(a) stick to our original pronunciation, even though it will be a battle for her growing up when other people with the same name all pronounce it the UK way
(b) accept the UK version, even though we dont like it and to us, doesn't suit her
(c) change her name

Has anyone else been through this? What did you do / wish you had done?

We feel awful that we have unwillingly picked something that is going to be tricky for her now all her life, but we love the name.

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Greenthread · 13/02/2024 16:08

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 13/02/2024 11:20

Is it an accent thing? I'm Scottish and DH is English, and he absolutely cannot pronounce Ailsa, a girls name without it coming out as Elsa, as in frozen.

That’s interesting. My English MIL pronounces Elsa from Frozen as Ailsa!

herewegoagainy · 13/02/2024 16:05

But how many times do you correct it? This is why I let it go as I really can not be bothered any more with correcting it.

SOBplus · 13/02/2024 16:04

My name was rare as a child and everyone including teachers said it wrong and I hated my name aged 6-12, then loved its uniqueness and now its common. I think a simple correction when someone gets it wrong and not getting offended and all will be fine.

herewegoagainy · 13/02/2024 16:00

I have partial hearing and often can not tell subtle pronunciation differences.

MikeRafone · 13/02/2024 15:58

StarShine23 · 13/02/2024 09:09

Hi all, advice needed please.

We named our daughter after someone we know from abroad. Its a pretty simple name but we had never heard it in the UK before. Baby is now 1 and the name has become more popular here, but it has a different pronunciation than we use. The problem we have is we don't like way its pronounced here, but everyone we meet now calls her by the UK version rather than her name, even though we correct them.

Do we:
(a) stick to our original pronunciation, even though it will be a battle for her growing up when other people with the same name all pronounce it the UK way
(b) accept the UK version, even though we dont like it and to us, doesn't suit her
(c) change her name

Has anyone else been through this? What did you do / wish you had done?

We feel awful that we have unwillingly picked something that is going to be tricky for her now all her life, but we love the name.

Michael used to get shortened to Mike or Mick regularly, its not sue a popular name now.

Those with the name will introduce themselves with the name of their choice - just keep refreshing people on how to say your dads name

Nonplusultra · 13/02/2024 15:56

I have a name like that and I wish my parents had just chosen the more common version. Instead they went in heavy with the gaslighting about being proud of it, unique etc.

If I correct people they can get sniffy and don’t remember anyway. If I just let it slide, people get upset when they see the spelling, and still don’t remember the next time.

I understand. I know an Anna and an Anya, a Marie (marEE) and Marie (MAHRee) and a Mia (MEEa) Mia (MYa)and it’s very hard to keep them straight, even when I’m very aware of the importance of calling someone by their actual name.

Just call your dc something that makes like easy.

SpicyMoth · 13/02/2024 15:52

As someone with an obscure first name (Never met anyone else with it at all), I hate it and always have and it's nothing but an annoyance.
It's fine when I'm asked my name, but when it's written down/read that's where I have issues because it's needlessly spelled in a fancy French way!
I used to correct people, but I really just can't be arsed anymore - That doesn't mean it's not annoying when people get it wrong though.

Think similar to the "an" sound at the end of "Bethan" for example, but it instead get's pronounced phonetically as "own" or "on".
It's frustrating.

Failing those I've even had people straight up call me a different name all together during registration/role call, to this day I have no idea how.

I can't change it either as my mum has a massive reaction every time I've ever brought it up.

troublemeltslikelemondrops · 13/02/2024 15:38

StarShine23 · 13/02/2024 11:29

Thanks for the comments guys, I've been really interested to know how much of an issue it is for those of you who have experienced something similar. Whether its 'oh my god i hate my parents' every time someone pronounces if different or whether its just a matter of picking your battles and accepting the alternative version when it doesn't really matter. I guess its up to our daughter as she gets older, she can always shorten it or use her middle name if it annoys her.

If the name can be shortened and she has a middle name which is more pronounceable, the girl has options. You've done enough.

No need to change her name, especially given you think it suits her, and it was named after an actual person who touched your life as opposed to a random foreign name you thought sounded pretty.

FWIW, people can mispronounce any name. I have friends with very standard English names, and people still get them wrong. Changing a name doesn't guarantee you any more success with people saying it correctly.

JoanThursday1972 · 13/02/2024 15:34

PrincessCharlette · 13/02/2024 14:10

I was christened Caoimhe ( Kee-va ) , after my maternal grandmother but it became a pain in the backside so I quietly dropped it in preference to my middle name. Only my mother uses my given name these days.

I also work with a woman with this name and she pronounces it Queeva. However I also know of someone (who called her three children ridiculous names) who has a brother called Keavy which (correct me if I am wrong) is an Anglicised derivative of this name based on being a fan of B*Witched. He pronounces it Keevy. 🙄

DuckPondering · 13/02/2024 15:27

I have an unusual name and no one ever pronounces it correctly at first. It’s really not a big deal, I don’t get precious about it and rarely even bother correcting them unless they ask.

At work we have a few Karens and they all insist on it being pronounced differently. None of them are Karen, it’s all Car-en or Care-en.

TheCompactPussycat · 13/02/2024 15:27

It would be helpful to know the name @StarShine23 . I doubt anyone will be offended by knowing you prefer a different pronunciation of their name.

I wondered whether it was something like Thea. I know two, one pronounced Thee-uh and one pronounced Tay-uh

Fallulah · 13/02/2024 15:27

I’ve just read the whole thread to find out if my guess that the name is Evelyn is correct or not. 🥱

Also, Sarah and Sara are completely different names.

justteanbiscuits · 13/02/2024 15:22

Not the sort of thing I can get worked up about. I thought I gave son 1 the simplest name in the world, but people still manage to screw it up! (he is named a shortened version of a name, but so many people use the lengthened version!)
Son 2, again, I thought I gave him a fairly simple name with the most common, traditional spelling of the name. But nope, 90% of people, first time saying it, get it wrong!!

WhyWhyY · 13/02/2024 15:20

Are you telling me we never find out what the name is? 😁 I’m dead

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 13/02/2024 15:13

AInightingale · 13/02/2024 14:53

That sometimes happens with the Irish names Padraic and Caitlin. It's a tricky one, names should always be pronounced correctly out of courtesy, but I think you'll just have to be flexible about it and accept the more commonplace UK pronunciation outside of your immediate home and family and her close friendship group. I think your daughter might end up getting teased if she keeps correcting everyone she meets.

I understand this is not a case of correct/incorrect pronunciation.
An example upthread: Guy. In French it rhymes with ‘me’, in English it rhymes with ‘pie’.
Would be ridiculous to correct someone using the English prononciation if in the UK (especially with no French origins)

theeyeshaveit82 · 13/02/2024 15:11

Maireas · 13/02/2024 09:48

I was at university with a girl called Caroline. Except, for some unknown reason, she pronounced it Caroleen. She would get very angry if anyone got it wrong!

no doubt she went in to become a mumsnetter regularly starting thread about all the different and varied ways people are pissing her off and perceived injustice against her!

Yogatoga1 · 13/02/2024 15:08

mypafology · 13/02/2024 11:46

Is that an accent thing, or more of a regional slang?

I can see that in the NE the -ay sound of cafe would be shorter, more like the e sound in bet, but not ee

But then when I lived in Liverpool words often were shortened and then -ie/y put on the end, brekkie, ciggie, bevvy etc. So is cafee actually caf + ie?

accent as far as I know, as we didn’t live there so picked up local slang.

but even regional accents can vary. Newcastle is very different from Middlesbrough, for example.

Whoopaday · 13/02/2024 15:07

A.
People are dicks. You can spell a name Sarah and pronounce it Gary if you want. Stick with the same and correct people. People who are family and friends will use the correct way.

I have a complicated “foreign” name, always have to spell it but it honestly is no big deal and I like I’m not generic. It always seems to be a problem on MN with people saying don’t name them that they’ll have to spell it, so?

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 13/02/2024 15:07

Assuming the UK pronunciation is correct i.e. not for ex an Irish name that is mispronounced, use your pronunciation at home / with family but accept that others won’t and don’t correct them (as technically they are correct!)

I’m from another country, my name is also used here, it would be odd for me to correct people in the UK when they use the english pronunciation.

diamondpony80 · 13/02/2024 15:07

My mother named me after someone she knew from abroad and for 43 years I’ve had people pronounce my name wrong. I hated the attention it brought me right throughout school, college & pretty much everywhere, constantly having to correct people’s pronunciation, explain where my name came from etc. In business I’ve chosen to use my second name, which is easy to pronounce and is a bog standard, common English name. In my personal life family and friends know me as my given name, but I don’t introduce myself as that to new people any more .

Winter2020 · 13/02/2024 15:02

Hi OP,
I just wanted to say I wouldn't let your daughter hear or become aware of the whole "hate?/don't like her name when it's pronounced the UK way" narrative.

You pronounce her name how you like. You correct people if you want to but I would leave it up to her if her name mispronounced bothers her. Her name is a part of her identity and it's not nice for her if she thinks you don't like it or it's pronunciation becomes a source of stress.

I have known a Sara (not Sarah) that corrected pronunciation every time their name was said wrong and one that was equally happy to be called Sarah of Sara and didn't correct anyone so different longstanding friends might call her Sara or Sarah. For each it was their choice.

Nanny0gg · 13/02/2024 15:02

Mrspatmoresspoon · 13/02/2024 10:18

Jaysus this is the most frustrating thread ever. Just tell us the name op or we can’t help

Why?

She either pronounces it her way or the 'new' way.

Doesn't matter what it is

I'd stay with the 'original' way that you liked in the first place @StarShine23

AInightingale · 13/02/2024 14:53

That sometimes happens with the Irish names Padraic and Caitlin. It's a tricky one, names should always be pronounced correctly out of courtesy, but I think you'll just have to be flexible about it and accept the more commonplace UK pronunciation outside of your immediate home and family and her close friendship group. I think your daughter might end up getting teased if she keeps correcting everyone she meets.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/02/2024 14:52

NoCloudsAllowed · 13/02/2024 13:47

I'm not saying the name, because I don't want to offend any one who is or has children called it and use the UK variant.

Eh? You don't want to offend anonymous strangers on the internet by saying you pronounce a name differently to them? What do you think they're going to do, track you down and harrass you? Stand outside your house with banners saying 'it's Clarr-rah not Clah-rah?'

Grin

My first name is run of the mill but can be spelled two ways and also, depending on which country I'm in at the time, pronounced 3 ways that I know of so far. I've given up trying to correct anyone, and in fact have had far more trouble with my surnames, maiden and married. The most annoying thing to me is when I spell my surname out to someone and then pronounce it as it should be pronounced and it is repeated back to me the way the person speaking thinks it ought to be pronounced, not the way it I have just pronounced it. IYSWIM. Drives me nuts.
No advice to @StarShine23, sorry. Except my brother had an fairly unusual name for England, spelled the French way, which he hated, and his middle name was more unusual and also spelled the French way, but he preferred it, so when he went to secondary school, he changed to using the English version of his middle name and that is how he is now known by everyone but family and friends who knew him before he was 11. Is use of a middle name a possibility?

recklessgran · 13/02/2024 14:52

This sort of thing is much more common than you think OP. One of my DD's has the reverse problem to you - she has a very unusual and pretty name that has double s in the middle. In our experience most originally British people pronounce the name as you would expect - exactly as it looks written down but as we are now a very multicultural country a lot of people particularly from Eastern Europe pronounce the double s as 'sh' and don't pronounce the i that follows them. It's no biggie is it - my adult DD doesn't seem in the least bit worried about it and neither are we. It's just language differences and can't be avoided - sorry, but I've got far greater things to worry about than correcting people's pronunciation!