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Arian?

121 replies

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 02/02/2024 22:04

This is the only name we can agree on, what do you think?

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Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 12:34

SoIRejoined · 03/02/2024 12:20

Really no. Even if you are of Indian heritage, why would you choose a name that could cause offense or make you look ignorant of what happened in WW2.

As I said it’s not pronounced or spelt the same, and it has a long standing history and tradition in my culture. I suppose I’d also (perhaps wrongly) assume anyone I met couldn’t possibly be so ignorant to not be aware of ww2 or the connotations of aryan, and so if I misread the name Arian and assumed it was Aryan, I’d probably also assume It was more likely that I was wrong, rather than that they were being offensive.

it has been very useful to see that not everyone agrees with me though and lots of people would still assume it’s Aryan anyway.

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SoIRejoined · 03/02/2024 12:23

It's a bit like Myra. Beautiful name, provided you haven't heard of Myra Hindley.

SoIRejoined · 03/02/2024 12:20

Really no. Even if you are of Indian heritage, why would you choose a name that could cause offense or make you look ignorant of what happened in WW2.

KirstenBlest · 03/02/2024 12:18

@Dhekaksnsjellfv , if you go into a bank in Wales, the word appears on signs.
It's not a British name.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/02/2024 12:16

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 12:01

I didn’t know it was cash in Welsh, so that’s good to know. We aren’t Welsh so I’m not too concerned about that one. There’s lots of British names that don’t quite sound right in other languages, but this is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to find out by posting so thank you

It's not very important, but it means money, not just cash which is 'arian parod' (literally 'ready money').

AndThatWasNY · 03/02/2024 12:09

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 10:25

Thanks everyone. Interesting to hear the aryan concerns.
I’m surprised though as it isn’t spelt or pronounced the same way.

"i"s and "y"s are very often swapped Bryan Brian for an easy example

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 12:01

I didn’t know it was cash in Welsh, so that’s good to know. We aren’t Welsh so I’m not too concerned about that one. There’s lots of British names that don’t quite sound right in other languages, but this is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to find out by posting so thank you

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Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 11:59

It's not a name
a few comments like this, which seem really odd to me. You not knowing a name, doesn’t mean the name doesn’t exist.

and this too..
Please consider whether they will be mocked or bullied at school because of the name you have saddled them with
im literally asking about the name? What part of that implies I’m not considering the name?

these comments aren’t helpful.

@Startrekkeruniverse thank you that’s useful to know. I wondered if people were just pronouncing it wrong and that was the issue. Dh says as soon as you meet DS, you will see him and he will introduce himself / we will introduce him and it will be clear that his name is not aryan and there are no nazi connotations. Where we live is quite ethnically diverse too so I suspect a lot of people will already know the name. But I agree it’s definitely something I would worry about. Though it does seem unfair as I say it isn’t spelt or pronounced the same, and it’s a lovely name.

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KirstenBlest · 03/02/2024 11:59

UsualChaos · 02/02/2024 23:37

I know two in my bit! I like it.

@DogsAreBetterThanHusbands ,In Welsh, it's ARR-yann. (2 syllables). As others have pointed out, it's the word for money and silver.

It's like calling a child Money or Cash.

ScierraDoll · 03/02/2024 11:37

It's not a name just a collection of random letters. Whatever you call your child will remain with them all their lives. Please consider whether they will be mocked or bullied at school because of the name you have saddled them with

Startrekkeruniverse · 03/02/2024 11:31

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 11:25

No, it’s useful to know.
is that because you’re pronouncing it aryan? Or you just thought that anyway?

I think both - I (wrongly) assumed it is pronounced Aryan but even the spelling just makes me think of the nazi connotations.

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 11:25

Startrekkeruniverse · 03/02/2024 11:04

I immediately thought Hitler, sorry OP.

No, it’s useful to know.
is that because you’re pronouncing it aryan? Or you just thought that anyway?

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Startrekkeruniverse · 03/02/2024 11:04

I immediately thought Hitler, sorry OP.

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 11:00

Just to add that we aren’t in Wales or welsh heritage.
it is a name from our culture but I think it’s an established name in quite a lot of places

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Lemonyyellow · 03/02/2024 10:53

I’m Welsh and don’t know any Arians here. It means money so I think would be an unusual name. I did teach a little boy called Arian once - he was Indian. I don’t remember how he spelt it but It was pronounced the same way as in welsh, not like Aryan.

JamSandle · 03/02/2024 10:49

It's beautiful.

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 03/02/2024 10:25

Thanks everyone. Interesting to hear the aryan concerns.
I’m surprised though as it isn’t spelt or pronounced the same way.

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2024theplot · 03/02/2024 09:59

CatchHimDerry · 03/02/2024 09:35

@2024theplot oh I’m glad you know some too!

I was doubting myself for a minute there, we are in the south and there’s been a few we’ve met too

Other than one, these were all people from around the South too, perhaps it's regional.

CatchHimDerry · 03/02/2024 09:35

@2024theplot oh I’m glad you know some too!

I was doubting myself for a minute there, we are in the south and there’s been a few we’ve met too

Gwenhwyfar · 03/02/2024 09:34

"I have met a handful of Welsh people called Arian - all would be in their 30-50s now."

Wow! Not a new thing then! I don't understand how I haven't met any if they're around that age.

2024theplot · 03/02/2024 09:32

Gwenhwyfar · 03/02/2024 09:16

Yes, but as mentioned it means silver and money in Welsh and isn't a name.

Now just seen Catch's post that she knows some. If it's become a name in Wales, that's a very new development that I hadn't heard about. I would laugh if someone told me they were called money.

I have met a handful of Welsh people called Arian - all would be in their 30-50s now.

CatchHimDerry · 03/02/2024 09:32

@Gwenhwyfar there’s not many, granted, but one or two in the schools DH has taught at over the years

By no means the weirdest.

I posted previously that next door teacher has an Allanfa in their Welsh secondary. I didn’t believe them, it was 100% true.

And a Sirius Black 😂

I don’t dislike Arian, doubt DH would allow it as it would be seen as more “money” than “silver”

He sense checks all my suggestions as I’m only a leaner and he’s 1st language

BoobyDazzler · 03/02/2024 09:32

I think it’s a really pretty name and I’d probably use it unless the child was likely to be tall, blonde and have blue eyes just because of the historic connotations and the fact that kids can be awful!

Lifeinlists · 03/02/2024 09:26

The one I know is pronounced Arriarn with emphasis on the 'arn' bit.
Pakistani heritage.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/02/2024 09:17

CatchHimDerry · 02/02/2024 22:24

As PP said it’s silver in Welsh, we have a few around here, it’s not considered in any way unusual nor with negative connotations in Welsh speaking circles / schools etc

Definitely unusual for me as a mid-forties Welsh speaker who has never heard of it as a name.

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