What do you think when you hear these baby names?

Ohcordelia · 2023-12-11T19:56:18+00:00

Sami Rayan Aydin Nura Kamila Aayah Amila Deen do any of them jump out to you as ick, chavvy or younique? yes they are all Muslims names. I’m Muslim. They are names on my baby name list, we want Muslim names that have nice meanings but aren’t too too common in our community and not too alienating for life in the Uk. The spellings are the closest transliteration to the Arabic

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ScruffMuffin · 04/03/2024 15:45

I like most of them and don't think they'll appear strange in the UK. How about Nayla?

Dostadning · 03/03/2024 14:35

Sami
Kamila

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Ohcordelia · 03/03/2024 14:15

lljkk · 03/03/2024 13:43

I thought some of them sounded Muslim.
That's it, I struggle to have an opinion beyond that.

Rayan is a synthetic fabric, no? Maybe not that one.
Kamila Harris is cool.

Think it’s rayon that’s the fabric

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lljkk · 03/03/2024 13:43

I thought some of them sounded Muslim.
That's it, I struggle to have an opinion beyond that.

Rayan is a synthetic fabric, no? Maybe not that one.
Kamila Harris is cool.

UmmH · 03/03/2024 13:26

Zaki?

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Ohcordelia · 02/03/2024 20:43

UmmH · 02/03/2024 18:04

Rayan is definitely a boys name too.

I meant personally I prefer it for girls.

I just feel very awkward about making it ayaat (I don’t like that for a person as it’s plural) as in our faith it means sign, so I don’t feel like I should have to change it to bow to south Asian culture, why should that meaning trump ours?

Because the word has crossed over into the English language and you were concerned how people here would view your list of names. But like I said, your baby's peers will soon get used to whatever name you choose. I think Ayah is beautiful. I mentioned Ayaat just as an option you may not have thought of, since people do use plural forms for names too e.g. Layla (night) Layali (nights), Amal (hope) Amaal (hopes).

Ayman is nice too, it’s pronounced like the Irish name isn’t it

I pronounce it Eh-man but I've heard some accents say Eye-man.

Do you like Idris? Similar to the Welsh name.

It’s such a shame but I don’t like idris… I don’t know why. Quite like Elias though

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UmmH · 02/03/2024 18:04

Rayan is definitely a boys name too.

I meant personally I prefer it for girls.

I just feel very awkward about making it ayaat (I don’t like that for a person as it’s plural) as in our faith it means sign, so I don’t feel like I should have to change it to bow to south Asian culture, why should that meaning trump ours?

Because the word has crossed over into the English language and you were concerned how people here would view your list of names. But like I said, your baby's peers will soon get used to whatever name you choose. I think Ayah is beautiful. I mentioned Ayaat just as an option you may not have thought of, since people do use plural forms for names too e.g. Layla (night) Layali (nights), Amal (hope) Amaal (hopes).

Ayman is nice too, it’s pronounced like the Irish name isn’t it

I pronounce it Eh-man but I've heard some accents say Eye-man.

Do you like Idris? Similar to the Welsh name.

KirstenBlest · 01/03/2024 20:44

@YourLocal , Aayah is Ah-yah (like English Are ya with a non-rhotic accent)
Amila and Kamila rhyme with Camilla (but could rhyme with Ameela too, it depends on the Arabic spelling)

YourLocal · 01/03/2024 20:30

all but Amila aren’t too my taste. I don’t mind Aayah but do you pronounce Ai yah or ay yah? And Amila would you pronounce as Amelia or A miller?

glasshalffull0 · 01/03/2024 19:54

Sami

Nura

Kamila

Amila

Are beautiful name but I think Amila is my favourite, your child will forever be spelling Kamila out to people who think its Camilla - might be something to consider!

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Ohcordelia · 01/03/2024 18:13

UmmH · 01/03/2024 08:02

I'm Muslim. Rayan is definitely more girly to me.

I like Ayah (I pronounce it EYE-a). To avoid the similarity to 'Indian nanny' you could pluralise it to Ayaat maybe? So meaning would be 'signs from God.'

How about Safiya?

If you live in a multi racial city I don't think you need to worry too much about people finding the names strange. Teachers will be familiar, and kids will get used to it. Even in less diverse areas, people must get over it.

Deen on its own feels unfinished. I'd expect Salah-ud-deen or Sayf-ud-deen etc. shortened to whatever the first part is.

There are lots of Milas, Amila sounds quite similar. It's at the bottom of your list for me.

I've never heard of Aydin. How about Ayman?

Rayan is definitely a boys name too.

i just feel very awkward about making it ayaat (I don’t like that for a person as it’s plural) as in our faith it means sign, so I don’t feel like I should have to change it to bow to south Asian culture, why should that meaning trump ours?

deen means creed by itself, but tbh I’m not very fond of the name in all honestly.

Ayman is nice too, it’s pronounced like the Irish name isn’t it

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UmmH · 01/03/2024 08:02

I'm Muslim. Rayan is definitely more girly to me.

I like Ayah (I pronounce it EYE-a). To avoid the similarity to 'Indian nanny' you could pluralise it to Ayaat maybe? So meaning would be 'signs from God.'

How about Safiya?

If you live in a multi racial city I don't think you need to worry too much about people finding the names strange. Teachers will be familiar, and kids will get used to it. Even in less diverse areas, people must get over it.

Deen on its own feels unfinished. I'd expect Salah-ud-deen or Sayf-ud-deen etc. shortened to whatever the first part is.

There are lots of Milas, Amila sounds quite similar. It's at the bottom of your list for me.

I've never heard of Aydin. How about Ayman?

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Ohcordelia · 12/12/2023 21:21

theduchessofspork · 12/12/2023 21:07

Hmm, I don’t think so, but it’s more that it’s slightly awkward than I don’t like it. Also (random thought) I think Arya on GOT used to be said Aye-uh until about season 3 when she changed it because she didn’t like it. I think she was right..

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But it was always written Arya

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theduchessofspork · 12/12/2023 21:18

Ohcordelia · 11/12/2023 23:02

Position on Haniya/ Hania?

i love it and it has a beautiful meaning but does it sound naff/ chavvy?

OOH

GO FOR THIS

It’s lovely.

And also it’s easy to know how it’s said, but it doesn’t feel like it it’s an alternative spelling of an English name like Kamila or Aydin - I am not saying I think this is a problem, but it seems to bother you.

I also love Maryam

for boys

Rohaan - it’s lovely

Daniyal - he’s going to be known as Dan day to day anyway

theduchessofspork · 12/12/2023 21:07

Ohcordelia · 11/12/2023 20:28

would Aayah as Ayah or Aya sway your vote?

i think it’s my favourite 😬😬

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Hmm, I don’t think so, but it’s more that it’s slightly awkward than I don’t like it. Also (random thought) I think Arya on GOT used to be said Aye-uh until about season 3 when she changed it because she didn’t like it. I think she was right..

rosyglowcondition · 12/12/2023 21:03

All very nice except Deen to my ear.

Overloadimplode · 12/12/2023 20:55

Sami - I teach one. Great name
Rayan - Iteach one. Also a grrat name.
Aydin - not for me (I know quite a few Aidans).
Nura - lovely
Kamila - lovely
Aayah - vowel girl names are very popular. Almost all the girls in my dd class have very vowelly names. For this reason I wouldn't
Amila - as above
Haniya - lovely

KirstenBlest · 12/12/2023 20:41

Transcribing is a minefield anyway, but if you see the name in Arabic the pronunciation makes more sense.

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Ohcordelia · 12/12/2023 20:29

KirstenBlest · 12/12/2023 20:18

@Ohcordelia , his name doesn't have a mm in it but he says it as if it did,which is pretty much what I posted.
كميل is what how I would write Kamil and I would say it as Kameel. I'd write
Kamil (to sound like Kammil) as كمل

Yeah that’s right

( i wasnt arguing with you btw)

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KirstenBlest · 12/12/2023 20:26

Wiki says
Kamil (كامل and كميل) is also an Arabic name, sometimes used as an adjective, more usually transliterated as Kamel and Kameel which can be translated as "perfect" or "the Perfect One". It is also used in Urdu, Persian and Sindhi meaning "complete". In Islamic theology, al-Insān al-Kāmil (Arabic: اَلإِنْسَانِ الكَامِلْ, Turkish: İnsan-ı Kâmil, Persian: انسانِ کامل), is a term used as an honorific title to describe Muhammad. It is an Arabic phrase meaning "the person who has reached perfection".

KirstenBlest · 12/12/2023 20:18

@Ohcordelia , his name doesn't have a mm in it but he says it as if it did,which is pretty much what I posted.
كميل is what how I would write Kamil and I would say it as Kameel. I'd write
Kamil (to sound like Kammil) as كمل

greglet · 12/12/2023 20:11

Sami - I like this, and Samir too

Rayan - less keen; would you pronounce it RAY-an or RYE-an?

Aydin - I like!

Nura - pretty; Noor is nice too

Kamila - nice

Aayah - not come across this but it's okay

Amila - pretty

Deen - not keen

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Ohcordelia · 12/12/2023 20:08

GladioliandSweetPeas · 12/12/2023 13:10

A family near me have a girl named Navanya

Not sure that’s an Arabic name as the Arabic language doesn’t have a V

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Ohcordelia · 12/12/2023 20:08

KirstenBlest · 12/12/2023 10:50

amila isn’t Ameela is a-mil-a that short i sound again
I think it would get Ameela/Amelia a lot.

I'm not sure why Kamil says his name as Kammil. I've not seen how he writes his name in Arabic but the Arabic transcribes to Kameel.

kameel is a different name written differently the vowel is a full ي which gives the full ee sound rather than the qassra which is a short i sound, it’s how vowels work in the arabic language, you have long and short ones. Not sure why the double mm on your friends name there’s not a double letter in the Arabic (that looks like a little w above the letter)

both names are perfectly fine and valid, so you could have kamila or kameela etc

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sawnotseen · 12/12/2023 14:39

I have a few Muslim friends with a Sami - it's not deemed chavvy. For a girl, I'd go with Safiye but she's my goddaughter and I adore her. She goes by Safi.
I wouldn't go for Deen as Dean was a very common English name in the 70s