Saoirse?

Raghaidh mé síos i measc na ndaoine
De shiúl mo chos
Is raghaidh mé. síos anocht.

Raghaidh mé síos ag lorg daoirse
Ón mbinibshaoirse
Tá ag liú anseo:
Is ceanglód an chonairt smaointe
Tá ag, drannadh im thimpeall
San uaigneas:
Is loirgeod an teampall rialta
Bhionn lán de dhaoine
Ag am fé leith:
Is loirgeod comhluadar daoine
Nár chleacht riamh saoirse,
Ná uaigneas:
Is éistfead leis na scillingsmaointe,
A malartaítear
Mar airgead:
Is bhféarfad gean mo chroí do dhaoine
Nár samhlaidh riamh leo
Ach macsmaointe.
Ó fanfad libh de ló is d’oiche,
Is beidh mé íseal,
Is beidh mé dílis,
D’bhur snabsmaointe.
Mar do chuala iad ag fás im intinn,
Ag fás gan chuimse,
Gan mheasarthacht.
Is do thugas gean mo chroí go fíochmhar
Don rud tá srianta,
Don gach macrud:
Don smacht, don reacht, don teampall daoineach,
Don bhfocal bocht coitianta
Don am fé leith:
Don ab, don chlog, don seirbhiseach
Don chomparáid fhaitíosach,
Don bheaguchtach:
Don luch, don tomhas, don dreancaid bhideach,
Don chaibidil, don líne
Don aibítir:
Don mhórgacht imeachta is tíochta,
Don chearrbhachas istoíche,
Don bheannachtain:
Don bhfeirmeoir ag tomhas na gaoithe
Sa bhfómhar is é ag cuirnhneamh
Ar pháirc eornan:
Don chomhthuiscint, don chomh-sheanchuimhne,
Do chomhiompar comhdhaoine,
Don chomh-mhacrud
Is bheirim fuath anois is choíche
Do imeachtaí na saoirse,
Don neamhspleáchas.
Is atuirseach an intinn
A thit in iomar doimhin na saoirse,
Ní mhaireann cnoc dar chruthaigh Dia ann,
Ach cnoic theibi, sainchnoic shamhlaíochta.
Is bíonn gach cnoc díobh lán de mhianta
Ag dreapadóireacht gan chomhlíonadh,
Nil teora leis an saoirse
Ná le cnoca na samhlaíochta,
Ná níl teora leis na mianta,
Ná faoiseamh
Le fail.

A poem called “Saoirse”. The existentialist sort of freedom, not the political sort.

I have a Saoirse and we live in england. Once you tell people how to say it they are fine with it

The best part

@JaneJeffer

Being of dual citizenship I have the authority over all! 😂😂

Am also clearly being facetious.

What region of Ireland are you in janejeffer. I'm in Midlands at the mo

According to you @Sparklecats

Yes @JaneJeffer you are clearly the best
🏆☘️

Which is not to say that it doesn’t exist or that anyone is more Irish than anyone else
Except for me 😜

@harrietm87

Yes anyone who has mentioned the issues, including myself, has very clearly stated said issues would be in NI counties and border counties.

But it would be important for anyone considering the name Saoirse to know that in a 1/3 of the island she could be perceived in a particular way (postive or negative), ostracised to certain groups or have her head kicked in.

Well yes of course people from Northern Ireland are Irish (if they want to be), but there is a difference, I think, between being called Saoirse and being from NI and being a Saoirse from ROI.

It’s been discussed and explained at length on the thread already. And since the OP’s child will be from ROI the NI-specific stuff really isn’t relevant.

Which is not to say that it doesn’t exist or that anyone is more Irish than anyone else 🤯

Quite - I have dual citizenship I don’t think my Irish experiences north and south are any less valid than anyone else’s.

In a thread about Saoirse you’re treating Ireland as “not Northern Ireland”?
Beginning to think that Daoirse would make a lovely name.

You can definitely get exemptions from learning Irish in schools in Ireland.

I don't think it should be mandatory. And it's not just that it's mandatory. I think way too big a focus is placed on Irish in primary schools. A lot of the day focuses on Irish.

When as adults , we will never use the language ever. (unless we become a primary teacher ourselves)

If I didn’t know how it was pronounced I would say Say-or-si which is argubly as bad as sore arse.

I really like how it it said however have zero confidence that I would be able to say it correctly

I and a lot of people I've talked to, don't think it should be compulsary. It's not fair. It should be optional.
I remember there being way too heavy am emphasis on Irish in my primary school. It wasn't a gaelschoil. It was a normal school.

We seemed to spend most hours of the day in that school, studying either Irish or Catholic religion .

I remembe we would do double Irish, double religion -learninf Catholic prayers. Then an hour of history or English. Is that an education? I don't think it is an education at all. Irish and Catholic religion.

Anyone that I've spoken to - no one wants to have to learn Irish. I'm sure some people do but it should be an optional choice. Not mandatory.

How though?

He must have been a big lad @Mooshamoo

I read that as sore-arse sorry…

@JaneJeffer

Sure I’m a Protestant, what did you expect 😊

@Liv999 could be some of the parents of people I knew were a bit creative with the truth or issues were more pronounced in school… I don’t know. As I say all did it in primary but not all at secondary. None used it as adults. But I don’t doubt it’s on leaving cert or important in certain fields.

I did have to learn Irish at the age of 4. An interesting point is my brother was 7 and I think I was just turning 5 when we moved over.

The school system in ROI gave my brother an exemption, but not me!

I got landed with having to learn Irish for 12 years.

My brother didn't have to learn Irish at all. He never had to take one. Irish class

It was so unfair!.

I guess they thought I was at the start. But I think everyone should be able to apllply for am exemption if you move to Ireland. It shouldn't be mandatory.

I'm still annoyed my brother got the exemption and I didn't. They wouldn't give it to me He never had to learn any Irish at all

Also if your child is autistic but that's it I'm afraid, it IS a compulsory subject in the Republic, just as important at Maths, and is studied right up until Leaving Cert, still needed for lots of top jobs here and as I said lots of college courses too

I'm a Sorcha 🙂

I love my name now I'm an adult.