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NameNameNameNames · 2023-09-17T11:35:37+00:00

Follow on from my Isla thread, another name I have in mind is Saoirse. Sister would still be Hazel, and there’s very little chance of the name being mispronounced

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NameNameNameNames · 25/09/2023 15:42

Ok will do! Although this sorta feels like the rumplestiltskin thing

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Plusque · 25/09/2023 15:41

JaneJeffer · 25/09/2023 15:37

The bottom line @NameNameNameNames is that you're to call the child Mór.

Seconded. Please post birth certificate when little Mór Gobnait Surname has been duly registered.

(I met only my second ever Lasairfhíona at the weekend.)

JaneJeffer · 25/09/2023 15:37

The bottom line @NameNameNameNames is that you're to call the child Mór.

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NameNameNameNames · 25/09/2023 11:59

I left for a few days and came back to whatever this is 😂😂😂

Can someone fill me in on what’s been going on??

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SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 22:29

I just checked my grammar. Got the plurals wrong. And deas is not used to mean just.
before any teachers pop up to tell me.
oiche mhaith

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:58

Oh I see, yes but other similar words didn’t get the s added.
Fuaire didn’t turn into fuairse.
Dearg didn’t become deirgse.

Deas / Deise may be the clue since it means “just” / “justice” so “saoirse agus deise” by comparison maybe.

Sincere apologies to those not interested in grammar.

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 21:36

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:34

Adjective - Noun
Cold- coldness
Fuar - fuaire

Nice - niceness
Deas - deise

Red - redness
Dearg - deirge

Free - freedom
Saor - saoire
saor - saoirse

The plural form of these adjectives is same as the noun. So
lá saor = free day
laethanta saoire = free days ie holidays

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Maybe we're at cross purposes, but that was my point. An old word with the pronunciation serra (saora) is a very obvious root of Saoirse.

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:34

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 19:29

I'm no linguist and my Irish is crap but that reads like the precursor to "saor" to me, presumably Saoirse is a particular usage of that (sorry, crap on grammatical terms). Laethanta saoire and all that.

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Adjective - Noun
Cold- coldness
Fuar - fuaire

Nice - niceness
Deas - deise

Red - redness
Dearg - deirge

Free - freedom
Saor - saoire
saor - saoirse

The plural form of these adjectives is same as the noun. So
lá saor = free day
laethanta saoire = free days ie holidays

Sparklecats · 23/09/2023 21:17

Liv999 · 23/09/2023 19:20

Of course it is, every language is an old language, fair enough it's not used day to day by a lot of people but it would be a shame to see it fade out, it's part of our identity and hopefully will remain so, in Northern Ireland it is growing in popularity which is great to see, its a lovely language and I love to hear people speak it fluently

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@Liv999 I agree it is nice to see it flourishing in NI and I would like to see more Protestants there involved in learning/using the language too. And less politicising of it. Like you generally only see large amounts of Irish street signage in areas where as a Protestant you would not be welcome. And fluent NI speakers - disclaimer that I have known in NI- are generally raging republicans whose children all go off like a right of passage to the Gaeltacht each summer to become more entrenched.
Would be nice to see the Ulster Scots more seeing as so much is used in language daily. Shame to lose that part of the culture in Ireland.
Be lovely if the Celts could support each other.

Plusque · 23/09/2023 21:11

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 20:55

Nuala
Úna
Emer
Rumplestiltskin

😀😀

Plusque · 23/09/2023 21:10

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 20:50

Bríd is a good one

Another sister!

Sparklecats · 23/09/2023 21:07

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 18:07

Maura Higgins is the most un-Maura looking Maura I've ever seen.

Mauras usually wear support stockings and a tweed skirt that's straining across an ample backside.

@Scruffington 😂😂😂

I had exactly this thought!!

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 20:55

Nuala
Úna
Emer
Rumplestiltskin

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 20:50

Bríd is a good one

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 20:39

Bríd
Cait

Come on, I’m running out of aunties.

oneuponedown · 23/09/2023 20:18

I just read a book with a character of this name and
Referred to her as swar ose the whole way through- no idea still how to pronounce but obviously not in Ireland!

Plusque · 23/09/2023 20:04

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 19:06

Síle
Mór
Mairéad
Plainest names I can come up with.

Still funkier than mine, though I have a (cool) sister called Mairéad. Mine is like the definition of Beige As Gaeilge. Which I believe is ‘béas’.

(I kind of like Mór.)

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 19:40

Yeah exactly.

Especially if it's Mór.

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 19:39

Well they're hardly going to say yes that's my real name

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 19:35

I assumed PP's name is Orla - not many Irish names that are widely used and also phonetically spelled in English and Irish at the same time.

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 19:34

You're a fine big girl

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 19:32

The most popular female name in use in later mediaeval Ireland
Jaysus that's before my time

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 19:29

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 16:10

Yes of course Earrings. I’m fighting my phone so my posts aren’t as clear as I would like.
but interesting: In Old Irish the spelling “Saíre” or “Saeire” was used to mean freedom. So much like Serra, not seersha.

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I'm no linguist and my Irish is crap but that reads like the precursor to "saor" to me, presumably Saoirse is a particular usage of that (sorry, crap on grammatical terms). Laethanta saoire and all that.

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 19:21

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 19:11

Mór
?

The most popular female name in use in later mediaeval Ireland. Invariably anglicised Mary.

Liv999 · 23/09/2023 19:20

Mooshamoo · 23/09/2023 18:03

Is it our language? It is an old language. No one I know in Ireland ever uses Irish at all in their day to day lives.

If we don't use it, how is it our langauge.

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Of course it is, every language is an old language, fair enough it's not used day to day by a lot of people but it would be a shame to see it fade out, it's part of our identity and hopefully will remain so, in Northern Ireland it is growing in popularity which is great to see, its a lovely language and I love to hear people speak it fluently