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Baby having a surname

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leearodgers · 04/09/2023 10:19

Hi there, I’m currently 40 weeks + 2. No sign of this baby girl of mine yet šŸ˜…šŸ¤ž.. however last night my partner brought up about our daughter having a last name.. he’s not fond of his family name (doesn’t get on much with the family) so doesn’t exactly want to carry on his last name and brought up to me that what if she just doesn’t have a last name at all… which at first I thought that he was crazy and you can’t possibly not give your child a last name. I told him she’s got to have a last name.. wether it’s mine or yours (I don’t like my last name and my son from my last relationship doesn’t have my last name and has his dads.. so I didn’t want her to have mine) also all before this chat last night, she was always going to have my partners last name. Reason last night saying she has mine or yours though I don’t want her to have mine is because it’s her identity and I thought can’t just possibly not give her a last name so If he doesn’t want it to be his then it’s mine. Now that I’ve slept on it.. I’m thinking maybe it’s a good idea and Ive come round to it more and I’ve thought about it all morning. Reason I’m thinking it might be a good idea is bc I have a son from a previous relationship and he has his dads last name.. we are engaged so if our daughter was to have his last name and we got married, all 3 of us would have the same last name but my son from previous last relationship wouldn’t have the same. Also to mention my son doesn’t see his dad at this moment in time due to safe guarding reasons and hasn’t for a year.. he was meant to put a court application through by July after being through medication but he hasn’t. So I don’t know what will happen with that side of things about seeing his dad (but he does see his dads immediate family) I wouldn’t want him to be left out and all 3 of us have same last name and he doesn’t.. and that’s what’s made me come around to the idea bc then at least it makes sense. However I still wouldn’t mind if our daughter had my partners last name. So my question is, is it possible to register the baby without a last name and even if so is this just a stupid idea?? Her name would be Arabella LucĆ­ana for reference so LucĆ­ana is meant to be her middle name but obviously would also be classed as her last name?

TIA x

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annnlee · 25/06/2025 19:55

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MsGoodenough · 14/06/2025 14:36

Friends of mine have combined surnames when they had kids, or chosen a whole new surname for the whole family when they adopted siblings. DP and I went for the Spanish option of giving DD two surnames, but if neither you or your DP like your own surnames that probably isn't what you'd choose. In your case I'd choose a new family surname with connotations/history that work for all of you.

HoppingPavlova · 14/06/2025 12:07

@Zanatdy Someone I know created a new surname when they had kids. I thought it was a little odd, but I didn’t know the reasons behind. It is quite a cool surname so I presume they just picked it

Maybe we know each other? Our kids have a different surname to my surname and DH’s surname. It solved the problem of which surname, give them one unique to them. We used the letters from each surname to come up with a new one (which is very cool). Never been a problem and has never bothered our kids. They love their surname, as it is ā€˜theirs’. They own it, they rock it. All that matters to them is that they all share the same name. Plus, you can tell the people who have a clue, they will be standing there chatting for a bit and then go ā€˜I’ve got it, you used the letters of both names’ 😁.

Blows my mind when people say everyone has to have the same name to feel a family unit. I mean, if you need that to feel a family, all hope is pretty much lost.

Zanatdy · 12/06/2025 03:31

Someone I know created a new surname when they had kids. I thought it was a little odd, but I didn’t know the reasons behind. It is quite a cool surname so I presume they just picked it.

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Cattenberg · 07/09/2023 10:39

I read about a man who changed his name by deed poll to Dave. No surname - just Dave.

Some computer systems couldn’t cope with this. For example, his bank had to input his name as Dave Dave.

SpringIntoChaos · 07/09/2023 10:24

Won't help as I have a different name to their name. I remarried and they have their dad's name. This is what causes the issue of having a different surname to the mothers.

AuntieEsther · 07/09/2023 07:11

SpringIntoChaos · 07/09/2023 07:10

Be careful if you give your child a different surname to you OP, as when travelling abroad there's a distinct possibility that you'll be questioned at some passport control (I speak from indignant experience!) 😨 Took a lot of convincing and tears for the German guards to let me have my children back 🤣😱

Photograph their birth certificates and keep them on your phone. Problem solved.

SpringIntoChaos · 07/09/2023 07:10

Be careful if you give your child a different surname to you OP, as when travelling abroad there's a distinct possibility that you'll be questioned at some passport control (I speak from indignant experience!) 😨 Took a lot of convincing and tears for the German guards to let me have my children back 🤣😱

Whataretheodds · 07/09/2023 06:45

You're not married! Give her your surname and when you're married and have decided on a new surname for you all you can change them all.

HoppingPavlova · 07/09/2023 05:03

Not sure on legalities re surname in UK. Where I am you need one, and I have come across refugees that come from places where it’s traditionally one name only and so they have had to use it twice on legal paperwork here. Think name is just James, they then become James James.

My kids have a different surname to DH and myself (who have different surnames). We thought it would be nicer to have their ā€˜own’ name, so we made one with letters from our names. Kids love it and never been an issue that they have a different one to DH and I. They were certainly never confused who mum and dad were🤣. The only thing that matters to them is that they all share the same name. For some reason it’s important to them, not sure why. Will be interesting if DD ever marries, as DH and I would never say anything (although obviously would be disappointed internally), but I’m predicting any thought of a name change would be met with howls of outrage from siblings and it would likely be proactively raised with a ā€˜don’t you even think about it’ opening šŸ˜.

AuntieEsther · 07/09/2023 04:25

Speedweed · 07/09/2023 03:20

Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain did this - they gave their daughter the surname Bean. It was something to do with taking a stance against the patriarchy.

Now she's grown up, the daughter has added Cobain to her name, so she's Frances Bean Cobain.

So they didn't do this! They gave her a surname, they just made it up

Speedweed · 07/09/2023 03:20

Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain did this - they gave their daughter the surname Bean. It was something to do with taking a stance against the patriarchy.

Now she's grown up, the daughter has added Cobain to her name, so she's Frances Bean Cobain.

Pocodaku · 07/09/2023 03:13

Legally adopt a new, made up surname you both like and put that down for the baby too.

PinkArt · 07/09/2023 01:21

I worked with someone who didn't have a surname, so it is possible. Legally she just has a first name. For her passport it couldn't be left blank so they put X in the surname box.
That was a decision she made as an adult though. I can't remember if she legally changed her first name too, but she definitely removed a surname. It's a hell of a thing to do to a baby. A lifetime of having to explain the technicalities and then the question about what it says about you all as a family.

sashh · 07/09/2023 00:31

Another vote for go for a new name for all of you. She might not 'need' a surname but the world is set up for surnames.

I think your eldest needs permission to change his name from his father, but most schools and Drs will accept eg John smith known as Brown.

PinkRoses1245 · 06/09/2023 11:04

of course she needs a surname. if he doesn't like his, use yours. Keep it simple for the kid's sake.

my82my · 06/09/2023 11:02

Give her your last name and have your partner change his last name to yours.

I wouldn't make up a name, it complicated for no reason. I'd also look into changing your son's surname to yours.

wherethedevildontgo · 06/09/2023 11:00

I would make up a new surname for you all the use if neither of you want to use your own names (your son can change his surname once he's old enough if he doesn't want his dads).

TwoBlueFish · 06/09/2023 10:56

Just choose a brand new surname, you and your partner can both change your name via deed poll.

Topseyt123 · 06/09/2023 10:56

She'll need a surname. It's demanded just about everywhere (school registers, medical records, banks, tax office, nursery etc.). I really can't think of anywhere which won't require it.

Use some of the suggestions here. They seem good to me.

Notagains · 06/09/2023 10:54

Everyone needs a surname. Even the royal family have them. It would cause issues with passports etc for her in the future.
If you don't give her one I asume her middle name will become her surname and you will still all have different names anyway.

Whenwillglorioussummercome · 06/09/2023 10:52

You could all choose a completely new surname that you like, and use it. There's nothing to stop you and your partner just adopting it through deed poll, and giving it to your daughter when she's born.

For your son, you would need to check with your ex (and your son himself) to see if there are any objections as a change in name is something that, potentially, could be prevented in court if your ex was opposed, and his school etc might query the name change on that basis. But you'll know yourself how your son will feel, and how your ex would react.

aSofaNearYou · 06/09/2023 10:44

It would be totally unreasonable to not give a child a surname so another child doesn't feel left out, don't make such a fundamental part of her identity all about her brother, she is a person in her own right.

I would make up a family name, your son has the option of switching to that if he wants to or keeping his dad's name.

MargotBamborough · 06/09/2023 10:30

Your baby has to have a surname but it doesn't need to be either of your surnames, legally speaking.

I know of an unmarried couple who had twins and gave one of the twins his mother's maiden name and the other twin her mother's maiden name, so all four of them have different surnames (even the twins).

I'd never heard of anything like this before and I expect there will be some downsides in terms of other people being confused and making mistakes or inaccurate assumptions about them as a family, but I expect they considered all those things first and decided they were OK with that.

What you could do is pick a new surname, either one from one or both of your family trees (if you go back far enough you may well find you both have ancestors with the same surname, assuming you don't have wildly different heritage), or you could just pick one you both like and both change your names to that. If your ex is cooperative you could add it to your son's name as a double barrelled name.