ONS 2022 PREDICTIONS THREAD

Well yes that was my point, that whatever the child is known as (by middle name, short form etc) only the full first name, as registered on the birth certificate, counts in these stats. Which is why some names can appear more or less popular than the stats suggest.

I've been surprised at Teddy's 'low' position the last few years as it really feels like a top 10 name around me. But when you consider how many boys called Theodore or Edward on the birth certificate will only ever go as Teddy you start to realise that it is actually far more popular than the position 'Teddy' as a stand alone name holds in the stats.

With regards to Theo, I totally understand the point being made that it's more popular than the 2021 position of 15th suggests, as many of those Theodores will indeed be known as 'Theo' too. I just disagreed that if you combined them it would be the top name as many Theodores will be known as Teddy/Ted, or only ever as Theodore, as well. Theo would definitely jump significantly if you considered all the Theodores who go by that name too, but we can't assume they all do as it's a versatile name with many options.

@BoleynMemories13 , i'm not sure about the Theo vs Teddy for Theodore, but all 3 are popular, as is Edward.
There are several variations of spellings for Mohammed, and combined they would be the most popular name for boys.

Whether or not the first or middle name is used, only the first shows up in the stats.

I think10 of the UK prime ministers of the past 100 years were known by their middle name, James being the top name. The one PM who went by James was using his middle name.

my predictions for jumped up:

maeve
elodie
lyra
clementine
cqllie
juniper
wren
nova
dorothy
iris

jasper
casper
rex
otis
Rudy
Rowan
leo
arlo
kit

Whilst Theo and Theodore are obviously very similar, just as many Theodores get shorted to Teddy as they do Theo so you can't really 'combine' them.

I agree Theo appears to be incredibly popular, either as a stand alone name or a short form of Theodore (as does Teddy either as a stand alone name or a short form of Theodore or Edward) but the ONS doesn't combine names for a reason.

If you did that, Muhammad/Mohammed/Mohammad etc would be way out in front anyway. Although in my experience many boys who have this name on their birth certificate don't actually go by that anyway, at least while they're young, as it's often an honour reserved for the eldest male in that bloodline, while others will go by their middle name despite being Muhammad on their birth certificate. So Muhammad perhaps doesn't feel quite as popular as the stats suggest.

Arlo has got to be in it

@mum1345 , Theo is already the top name for boys if you combine Theo and Theodore. Some of the Theodores might be Theodore and some Teddy, but Theo is still probably more popular than Noah.

I was going to start a thread to ask if anyone had any info on this. I don’t know why it’s so late; the USA have more data to process and theirs is released in May! I got a bit worried when it wasn’t in upcoming releases any more. Hopefully that’s just because they have haven’t changed the expected date from Aug/Sept.

I wonder if this will be the year Ottilie will enter the top hundred. I’m also really curious on the other end of the chart to see if Lysander has had a shift. I’ve loved Lysander forever and I feel like over the last couple of years it’s had more and more positive mentions on name boards which often translates to an eventual real life increase.

I think the ones that would of jumped up are..
Maeve
Margot
Romy
Arlo
Jude
Lottie
Lucas/Luca
Delilah
Mabel
Matilda
August

I can see Theo becoming a top 5 name as I hear a lot of them at school!

Esme
Arlo
Theo/Teddy
Maeve
Olive
Lily

Based on names I'm hearing a lot of around here.

Margot, Ezra and Teddy seem to be crazy popular.

No, it hasn't been updated. Last year's release still says next data due August/September 2023 (provisional), which has obviously been and gone now and, like you say, it's still not even on the upcoming release calendar which usually happens at least a few weeks before it comes out so I'm thinking November at the absolute earliest now.

It's a joke. They use to release the data at the end of the calendar year, then about 10 years ago it started being delayed until the following August. The last few years have been September/October and who knows for this year?

Problem is the data is now already quite out of date by the time it is released. Jan 2022 babies are nearly 2 now and we still don't know what the most popular names were for that period in time! No wonder we see sone names make such big leaps of 100 places or more these days as people have no idea how popular a name currently is if they're naming an Autumn baby, as the latest data available is still from 2 years ago in 2021. Something just outside the top 100 in 2021 may be top 50 by now. Not many look beyond the top 100 so probably think they've chosen something really unusual and nay end up disappointed to find they are now one of many.

Thanks for answering Liv999 and ZoyaTheDestroyer.

I don't know but I've been waiting since the beginning of August for them! Last years came out the 5th of Oct I think so hopefully should be any day now they seem to be later every year

Does anyone know when the stats will be released? I tried checking on the Office of National Statistics website, but for some reason I can't access the site.

You don't need to apologise @faban. Charlotte is lovely. I wouldn't use it but that's because one of my cousins did.

Oooh sorry. I'm such an idiot thank you

No, but the next one will be 2022, @faban

According to the ONS page, there were fewer than three Charlottes in my area in 2021, compared with 9 Olivias. For the same year and area, there were 56 Muhammads and 17 Noahs. Nationally, Noah was #1 and Muhammad #5.
This is out of 1038 girls and 1078 boys born. *

I remember moving from one part of the country to another and the children's names I heard when out and about were different, but I'd moved from the outskirts of a large city to a small affluent town.

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I think Arlo, Milo, Ezra, Felix, Rudy and Jude will all see rises. Girls Ottilie suddenly seems to be popular so I reckon that will have a fairly big rise.

That hasn't been updated since 2021 tho

I was going by this Babies called Charlotte in England & Wales since 1996 (darkgreener.com), @faban

Maybe itl be higher in the regions. I'm in SW and every other baby is called Charlotte. I know 4 just born recently!

Maeve will go up a lot

Ezra will see a really big rise