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Laurent?

93 replies

atthebottomofthehill · 19/07/2023 00:09

Can't use Laurence as it clashes with surname but love the name. Is Laurent an option?

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FayCarew · 20/07/2023 10:51

Some people have no aptitude for sounds not in their mother tongue, or won't hear the difference between Lorr-ON and 'Laurent'.
Not all of us studied French at school, and even if we did, we'd have been taught how to say words the way the teacher said them.

I think a lot of people thing that Gaelic, Gaeilge and Welsh are dialects of English, or that their pronunciation is interchangeable.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Gaelic/Gaeilge/Welsh pronunciation/spellings posts are made by non-speakers who speak a regional scottish/irish/welsh dialect, or by people who are scottish/irish/welsh by blood or birthplace only.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/07/2023 10:24

It's not about being stupid - most English people can't pronounce the French "r" correctly for example, and will say the vowel sounds differently to a French person even if they try their best, so of course the name will sound different. Whether or not this matters or bothers you of course is a different matter

No, sorry, I wasn't very clear in that and unfairly merged those who are unable to make sounds with those 'delightful' people who just decide that somebody else's actual name isn't important at all.

I was calling the latter people stupid, not the former; although I would still also reserve the description for people who genuinely seem unable to grasp that other languages are not just dialects of English and appear astonished to find that there are significant differences - the sort of folk who think that Welsh people only speak it as a 'hobby' or to be awkward, or that Spanish people speaking Spanish in Spain are somehow doing it deliberately to annoy them.

sevenbyseven · 20/07/2023 10:17

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/07/2023 09:38

whats with making it sound as if English people are too stupid to pronounce an unfamiliar name?

A huge amount of them are, though - whether genuinely unable or too arrogant to see why it matters in the first place.

So many people with foreign (or Welsh/Scottish/Irish) names will tell you that people they know very well and work with/see often simply don't bother, or will find a more familiar 'equivalent' and arbitrarily decide that will be fine instead.

Even when learning a foreign language - and not just one word - so many native English speakers will merrily ignore the basics of pronunciation and treat it like a slight variation of English. For example, take the basic word 'ich' in German: only a small proportion of native English speakers will even attempt to say it properly, with the majority going for 'eek' or 'eesh' and reckoning that 'that will do'. I'm talking about those actually learning/studying the language - not just those with a phrasebook on holiday at Oktoberfest.

It's not about being stupid - most English people can't pronounce the French "r" correctly for example, and will say the vowel sounds differently to a French person even if they try their best, so of course the name will sound different. Whether or not this matters or bothers you of course is a different matter 🙂

TrueScrumptious · 20/07/2023 09:45

I like it. I know two…but both are French.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/07/2023 09:38

whats with making it sound as if English people are too stupid to pronounce an unfamiliar name?

A huge amount of them are, though - whether genuinely unable or too arrogant to see why it matters in the first place.

So many people with foreign (or Welsh/Scottish/Irish) names will tell you that people they know very well and work with/see often simply don't bother, or will find a more familiar 'equivalent' and arbitrarily decide that will be fine instead.

Even when learning a foreign language - and not just one word - so many native English speakers will merrily ignore the basics of pronunciation and treat it like a slight variation of English. For example, take the basic word 'ich' in German: only a small proportion of native English speakers will even attempt to say it properly, with the majority going for 'eek' or 'eesh' and reckoning that 'that will do'. I'm talking about those actually learning/studying the language - not just those with a phrasebook on holiday at Oktoberfest.

FayCarew · 20/07/2023 07:48

@MiladyBlue , I don't think it's a girl's name, just saying that someone kept posting that it was.

Laurence Shaw or something is fine. He'll probably be Laurie anyway.
Laurent Shaw seems a bit naff.

@DeeCeeCherry , OP asked for opinions. It's a lot more relevant to the OP, assuming she's in the UK, how it's said here than that it might be pronounced in a variety of ways in France or Canada.

DeeCeeCherry · 20/07/2023 05:48

Go for Laurent if you like it. Its my brother's name. I also have a Xavier relative. & I dont have an English name either. Some of these thread comnents are ridiculous, whats with making it sound as if English people are too stupid to pronounce an unfamiliar name? & Are you really that afraid of difference? I find that mostly people do try at least to pronounce names correctly. If anyone mispronounces my name I tend to correct them nicely. But mostly people will just say 'oh, how do you pronounce your name?' & I'm absolutely fine with that.

With Laurent the 1st part I pronounce as 'Lohr' (soft R) then for the rest of name, sound comes from the back of my nose somewhere - only way I can describe it. But in shock news - just like UK, not everyone in France has same accent. Then there's the French diaspora. & I found Canadian French an eye-opener to say the least. So you arent exactly going to get 1 universal accent and pronunciation anyway.

user1492757084 · 20/07/2023 05:26

It's not as well known or as nice as Laurence.

How about ..
Clement
Grant
Scott
Walter
Vincent
Roland
Clive
Clifford
Richard

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 23:32

It's a girl's name in France but a boy's name in England

Aaaaah, I see - thanks!

TheIsleOfTheLost · 19/07/2023 23:22

My French college is a Laurent and gets called Laurence 90% of the time.by English people. So if Laurence doesn't work, then he is likely to be called it anyway.

sevenbyseven · 19/07/2023 23:12

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 23:00

How is Laurence a girl's name? Was that meant to be a joke?

It's a girl's name in France but a boy's name in England 🙂

ObviouslyNameChanged99 · 19/07/2023 23:06

If pronounce it
Lau (law?) like the sound at the beginning of Laura.
On but slightly longer than on more 'ohn'

Kind of like croissant!!

Not explaining myself well here! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

But I like it!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 23:03

I suppose Lorenzo could fit the bill pronunciation-wise, but might sound a bit of an odd choice if you have no family Spanish or Italian heritage!

Daisybuttercup12345 · 19/07/2023 23:01

Laurie or Lance .
Laurent is awful.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 23:01

One beginning with the SH sound! Tongue twister

Ah, OK!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 23:00

How is Laurence a girl's name? Was that meant to be a joke?

atthebottomofthehill · 19/07/2023 23:00

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 22:57

I'm not trying to fish for personal details, but I am wondering what surname would clash badly with Laurence, but not at all with Laurent?!

One beginning with the SH sound! Tongue twister

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MiladyBlue · 19/07/2023 22:59

FayCarew · 19/07/2023 15:53

Has nobody come along to say that Laurence is a girl's name anyway?

Best tell Laurence Fox

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 22:57

I'm not trying to fish for personal details, but I am wondering what surname would clash badly with Laurence, but not at all with Laurent?!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 22:53

Thankfully my school mate Lorne was never called a sausage 😂 (we were at school in Scotland).

For shame; their patter was seriously lacking Grin

User6761 · 19/07/2023 22:50

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 22:44

Lorne is the name of David Dickinson's wife. And a square Scottish sausage.

Thankfully my school mate Lorne was never called a sausage 😂 (we were at school in Scotland).

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/07/2023 22:44

Lorne is the name of David Dickinson's wife. And a square Scottish sausage.

atthebottomofthehill · 19/07/2023 21:45

I don't like Lance for some reason. Lawrie to me is a nickname and I'd want a full name. Lorne is quite nice but maybe a bit too random for me.

It's a shame I can't just be french in France with Laurent 😂

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User6761 · 19/07/2023 19:14

I went to school with a Lorne, nice guy so I have positive associations with name!

FayCarew · 19/07/2023 19:10

We were invaded by the Normans...

Might a not-french Laurent be pronounced Low-rent?