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Aoife - if not Irish?

139 replies

Helpneeded12345 · 18/03/2023 10:36

I love the name Aoife. It is my all time favourite girls name but neither my partner or I are Irish (my great-grandparents were Irish but this is a very long way back!)

I would love to hear your thoughts. Do you think it is ok to use Aoife if not Irish or would it be weird / cultural appropriation?

I'm particularly interested in opinions from anyone Irish - would it be offensive?

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sunglassesonthetable · 19/03/2023 18:30

Tbh there a couple of ways of spelling Ann....

sunglassesonthetable · 19/03/2023 18:29

Tbh I can't get worked up about people misspelling my name. They pretty much have, my whole life. Until they get to know me.

Main thing is, I know how it's spelt.

mathanxiety · 19/03/2023 18:29

I have an Irish name and live in the US, and also a surname that has several spelling variations. Both of my names are routinely mangled, both in spelling and out loud.

It isn't a problem unless you let it become one.

We can't all be Jane Smith, and even if we were, some of us would end up being addressed as Jan / Smiff.

KirstenBlest · 19/03/2023 18:22

@mathanxiety , it's annoying to have your name misspelt. I had a surname with probably the least popular of several spellings, and it caused problems.

mathanxiety · 19/03/2023 18:15

Wrt misspellings - so what?

Is there a suggestion that you should dumb down name choices in order to pander to people who are not very bright?

There are only a few guarantees in life, and one is that people who can't spell are going to make a mess of pretty much any name they're faced with.

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 19/03/2023 18:01

Just choose a name you love. It's fine, regardless of its country of origin.

KirstenBlest · 19/03/2023 17:43

@sunglassesonthetable , I wouldn't use Angharad either because it is too popular in Wales either as a first or middle name, and because I dislike the anglicised pronunciations. The name itself is nice enough, but Ann-garrud, Ann-harrud, Ang-garrud etc sound ugly.

KirstenBlest · 19/03/2023 17:39

@AnonymousArmadillo , that's 3 on a thread where the name is written clearly in the thread title, and the posts are by people who are interested in names, so not representative of real life.

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 19/03/2023 17:16

sunglassesonthetable · 19/03/2023 16:15

I wouldn't use Angharad if I wasn't Welsh so why Aoife if not Irish?

Because that's just you🤷‍♀️?

Fair enough. I don't expect everyone to agree. Still think its wierd though 😂.

AnonymousArmadillo · 19/03/2023 16:37

KirstenBlest · 19/03/2023 13:41

I'd scroll through this and other Aoife threads and count the misspellings.
Anything with two or more consecutive vowels tend to get them transposed.

..would have loved to name a daughter Aiofe. Go...

Just out of interest, I counted the misspellings on this thread. 2. Aofie and Aiofe. I might have missed a couple but it really isn’t very many.

As it’s my DD’s name, I’m well aware of the issues people have with the spelling and pronunciation. Most friends and family have made the effort to learn it though. With the wide variety of names these days, people aren’t so quick to make assumptions I feel. People will always make mistakes in spelling people’s names. I have a very common name and people still spell it wrong.

sunglassesonthetable · 19/03/2023 16:15

I wouldn't use Angharad if I wasn't Welsh so why Aoife if not Irish?

Because that's just you🤷‍♀️?

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 19/03/2023 15:43

Aoife is very Irish. The examples you gave are widespread across Europe. I've never met an Aoife who is not Irish or who has not got strong Irish heritage. It's just not comparable. OP Aoife is a lovely name but if you use it bear in mind that she will have a lifetime of people assuming she's Irish. It's just odd. I wouldn't use Angharad if I wasn't Welsh so why Aoife if not Irish?

Greenfairydust · 19/03/2023 14:23

@Stepuptowardsinfinity

"Bizarre. Like using Manuel if you are not Spanish, or Haru if you are not Japanese. Aoife is a lovely name but screams Irish heritage.''

So where does that live the many Juno, Orlando, Olivia, Dominic, Sofia, Zara..?

It is a very middle-class thing to give kids a name with a latin, greek or French origin without having any link to Italy/France/Greece. Or in the case of Zara, a name with an Arabic origin.

Can't see the issue with someone wanting to use an Irish name if they like the sound of it....

Luredbyapomegranate · 19/03/2023 13:44

It’s quite popular now so wouldn’t let it worry you. Anyway you do have Irish ancestry

KirstenBlest · 19/03/2023 13:41

I'd scroll through this and other Aoife threads and count the misspellings.
Anything with two or more consecutive vowels tend to get them transposed.

..would have loved to name a daughter Aiofe. Go...

Lostmarblesfinder · 19/03/2023 13:30

Aoife is more like Eef fa than Ee fa. Whereas Eva is Ee va. The Aoif is part of both the first and second syllable almost. Aoife ad Eva do not sound alike when pronounced correctly.

AnonymousArmadillo · 18/03/2023 23:24

AnonymousArmadillo · 18/03/2023 23:18

Love it! It’s my DD2’s name and we live in England, I’m English (and Scottish) but DH is Irish. Not sure if I would have used it had she not had the Irish heritage. I would have been sad not to.

I have had some interesting pronunciations though because we just politely correct them and laugh about it later. My favourite so far has been Oof! 😂

*but we just politely…

not because! 🙄

momtoboys · 18/03/2023 23:23

I’m Irish and would have loved to name a daughter Aiofe. Go ahead…it’s beautiful

AnonymousArmadillo · 18/03/2023 23:18

Love it! It’s my DD2’s name and we live in England, I’m English (and Scottish) but DH is Irish. Not sure if I would have used it had she not had the Irish heritage. I would have been sad not to.

I have had some interesting pronunciations though because we just politely correct them and laugh about it later. My favourite so far has been Oof! 😂

CameraCoffeeCrochet · 18/03/2023 23:12

I'm shocked that people can't pronounce Aoife. It's simply Eee-Fa! It's not that unusual!! What about Siobhan?

Wotnowconfused · 18/03/2023 22:53

Nice name but she'll forever be explaining how to pronounce her name if she's not in Ireland. Unless you're aware of Gaelic phonetics it not easy to decipher.

sunglassesonthetable · 18/03/2023 22:34

Go for it OP. It's lovely and in mho totally pronounceable.

Every name is from somewhere and these days children have all the names of the rainbow.

There always the shouldn't brigade on here but nobody owns a name.

In answer to " do you have Irish heritage?"
Your DD will answer " yes, my great great grandmother ".

End of.

bubbles2023 · 18/03/2023 22:19

I'm Irish and have no issue with people using it. It's a completely different name to Eva though. I've an Irish name (one of the hardest to read/ spell) and lived in England for 10 years and had no issue. It's actually easy to say so once people knew it was grand.

xJoy · 18/03/2023 22:02

@PropellerDance no I haven't, and lots of Spanish and Italian names become mainstream in English speaking countries. Japanese names don't.

LizzieAnt · 18/03/2023 21:59

Templebreedy · 18/03/2023 21:27

It’s the combination of the ‘aoi’ triphthong and the schwah in the second syllable.

Reading the name would be difficult if you weren't familiar with it or weren't an Irish speaker, granted. But I'm surprised that actually saying Ee-feh is difficult for an English person as @DramaAlpacadescribed. I'm not doubting you at all @DramaAlpaca, just surprised. I hadn't Aoife pegged as a name that's difficult to say, as well as to read, if you're not Irish.