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Archie and the connoations

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inky1991 · 29/01/2023 21:30

So we're expecting a baby boy very soon. My husband and I don't agree on many names but we both really love the name Archie. I have personally wanted that name since I can remember.

As soon as Harry and Meghan announced they'd called their boy Archie, I was pissed off. They got there first as took us a very long time to conceive, and I knew when and if our time came, people might assume we copied them, or it would suddenly become mega over used.

Now I don't really need peoples opinions on the name itself, as I know these kind of names can be marmite on mumsnet as some see them at "cutesy" or whatever.

Anyway I just wanted to know what comes to your mind when you hear the name Archie? Do you immediately think of Harry and Meghan? My husband tells me to get over myself, and that people wouldn't think that, but he's not really up to date with any current affairs especially anything to do with Royal Family. My immediate family have made it pretty clear they aren't keen cause of connotations of H&M.

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4thonthe4th · 30/01/2023 02:07

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:53

But Archie is also wildly overused. Far more so than your example of Tom (I’ve not heard of a Tom/Thomas born in all the time I’ve had kids).

I suspect you’ve not been round many children’s playground / nurseries etc, and you’re still thinking that the ‘popular’ names are the ones from your own childhood?

Archie was wildly popular when I had DC1 a decade ago; they were everywhere (and it had, unfairly, quite tacky connotations at one point). It’s definitely starting to date, along with all the Alfie’s, Charlie’s etc. Will be terribly dated in 5-10yrs.

Still has that “tacky” reputation in some places; especially in the city nearest to where we live.
@inky1991 no, I wouldn’t use anything like Fox either but, for me, because of the point above I wouldn’t use Archie. It’s in the Kaiden, Jayden camp for me and they’re just not to my taste.

You’d probably dislike my DCs names. Best advice is, as others have pointed out; just use whatever name you like and don’t worry what others think.

Smallonesaremorejuicy · 30/01/2023 01:52

I think of my friend’s grandfather. Lovely man with a super name .

Luredbyapomegranate · 30/01/2023 01:13

There are lots of little boys called Archie, it’s part of the Victorian vintage Alfie, Arthur, Ernest, Albert, Alexander, Theo etc - don’t worry about it - it would be like worrying if you had a Charlotte the same time as Kate did

Blondbombsite · 29/01/2023 23:48

My DN is called Archie and as for as I know no one has ever made the H&M connection.

When he was first born I was neutral on the name but I’ve really come to dislike it based on the fact that he’s always called ‘Arch’ which just sounds awful to me. I only mention it in case that’s not something you’ve come across.

007DoubleOSeven · 29/01/2023 23:38

Anyway I just wanted to know what comes to your mind when you hear the name Archie? Do you immediately think of Harry and Meghan?

Well, yes. But mainly because I wasn't sure if you were trying to type 'coronation' or 'connotations' 😄

Zipadeebooyah · 29/01/2023 23:31

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:18

As many people saying Archie is wildly overused, I would genuinely love to hear what people would call their son if they were having a little boy soon?

I'm not going to be the sort of person to call their child Fox, for example Grin

If you want Scottish try Angus, Cameron, James, Fraser, Douglas, Alisdair, Callum, Andrew, Kester.

Names I personally like? Peter, William, Thomas, Noah, Ivor, Samuel.

Sack off Archie. It's too trendy.

NanooCov · 29/01/2023 23:30

I have an Archie. Born before H&M's son. Still love the name as much as I did when we gave it to him. He's the only one in his class of 30 and among his friends so although popular it doesn't seem to be overused.

Nothing good can ever come of telling family and friends your name choice before the baby's born. I'll never understand why anyone does it.

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:21

Zipadeebooyah · 29/01/2023 23:16

I'm also half Scottish, and I know Archie is a much less "trendy" and more classical name there. My Scottish routes another reason why I like the name

You've got to be joking. Every other sproglet here is called Archie. It's so common it's dull.

You seem to have a serious fixation with this name and keen to defend it against any criticism. But as an actual Scottish person let me tell you it's trendy and common as muck up here too. Every lad is an Archie or an Oliver.

Surely there are other names you like?

The fact that you were upset at H&M naming their son Archie, and that they somehow beat you to it, tells me it's maybe time to let this name go and move on. There are a million nicer names that bloody Archie.

I didn't say it wasn't common in Scotland, but that its a much steadier name there than it is here. It's surged in popularly in England in recent years.

Your reply really didn't need to be so aggressive. Please do tell what names you would choose?

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inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:18

As many people saying Archie is wildly overused, I would genuinely love to hear what people would call their son if they were having a little boy soon?

I'm not going to be the sort of person to call their child Fox, for example Grin

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Soproudoflionesses · 29/01/2023 23:17

Suprima · 29/01/2023 21:43

No, I think of the extremely common boy’s name Archie

I was surprised when h and m used it

I agree with this

Zipadeebooyah · 29/01/2023 23:16

I'm also half Scottish, and I know Archie is a much less "trendy" and more classical name there. My Scottish routes another reason why I like the name

You've got to be joking. Every other sproglet here is called Archie. It's so common it's dull.

You seem to have a serious fixation with this name and keen to defend it against any criticism. But as an actual Scottish person let me tell you it's trendy and common as muck up here too. Every lad is an Archie or an Oliver.

Surely there are other names you like?

The fact that you were upset at H&M naming their son Archie, and that they somehow beat you to it, tells me it's maybe time to let this name go and move on. There are a million nicer names that bloody Archie.

user1471453601 · 29/01/2023 23:13

Archie and the Connotations. Great name for a group

Longdarkcloud · 29/01/2023 23:12

The first thing I associate with the name is a ventriloquist’s dummy that appeared on a radio programme when I was a child. Never met an Archie until comparatively recently when suddenly the floodgates opened and every 10th child and dog seemed to be called it. If anything I think H & M using the name will cool the demand because parents won’t want to be thought to copy them.
If you are really keen to use the name why not. If anyone every mentions H&M just tell them what you wrote on this thread.
Dont rush to register your precious wee one — you’ve got plenty of time and if you happened to get irritated by people’s response to your choice you can reconsider.
Good luck

Motelschmotel · 29/01/2023 23:11

My thoughts are:

  1. nicknames as given names are weird
  2. archibald is weird (would you call your daughter Guinevere?)
  3. Harry and meghan
  4. oh yes, I remember how weird it was that Harry and Meghan went with such a common name, and a nickname at that. It’s Just Not Proper 😂
Judgyjudgy · 29/01/2023 23:09

Don't like the name anyway, but people thinking you copied H&M would put me off

LutherRalph1 · 29/01/2023 23:08

I have an Archie, born before the Royal one - he was the only one at his nursery and is the only one in his year. I was worried about it being too common but I've hardly come across any where I am

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:07

SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 23:05

Op just do it. You both like it, that's what matters.

Thank you Smile, we probably will

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SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 23:05

Op just do it. You both like it, that's what matters.

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:02

Some people saying it's wildly popular and some saying they haven't really met many

I suppose if I had met many Archie's I wouldn't be worried about H&M connotations, but I just haven't. Maybe the trend hasn't reached the depths of Cornwall yet where I'm from Grin

I'm also half Scottish, and I know Archie is a much less "trendy" and more classical name there. My Scottish routes another reason why I like the name

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Changechangychange · 29/01/2023 22:59

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:53

But Archie is also wildly overused. Far more so than your example of Tom (I’ve not heard of a Tom/Thomas born in all the time I’ve had kids).

I suspect you’ve not been round many children’s playground / nurseries etc, and you’re still thinking that the ‘popular’ names are the ones from your own childhood?

Archie was wildly popular when I had DC1 a decade ago; they were everywhere (and it had, unfairly, quite tacky connotations at one point). It’s definitely starting to date, along with all the Alfie’s, Charlie’s etc. Will be terribly dated in 5-10yrs.

This - I told DS some names of girls in my class at school (Jessica, Sarah, Katy, Anna, Nicola, Emma) and he literally fell about laughing and said “those are such weird names!”

The girls in his class are called Monroe, Kylie-Ann, Nevaeh, Phoebe, Olivia, Ava. All pretty weird names by 1980s standards, but things move on.

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:56

TheaBrandt · 29/01/2023 22:54

The Harry and Meghan link isn’t the problem the fact it’s so common and over used would totally put me off. It’s not special any more it’s run of the mill. I was surprised they chose it.

Snap. I was really surprised they went for something so over-used and ubiquitous. But I suspect in their circles they might not have come across many, as it’s only made a comeback amongst us common folk, so it probs seems terribly exotic to them, whereas it’s seen as a bit common as muck to us plebs! 😆

TheaBrandt · 29/01/2023 22:54

The Harry and Meghan link isn’t the problem the fact it’s so common and over used would totally put me off. It’s not special any more it’s run of the mill. I was surprised they chose it.

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:53

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:46

You're probably right, but how can you be sure you won't choose a name that dates? These names are still making top of the lists so aren't dated as of yet. Of course, they might be one day though.

Is the only way to avoid dated names to call your child a classic name like Henry, Tom, George etc? Those names are fine but also really over used and not too exciting either IMO.

But Archie is also wildly overused. Far more so than your example of Tom (I’ve not heard of a Tom/Thomas born in all the time I’ve had kids).

I suspect you’ve not been round many children’s playground / nurseries etc, and you’re still thinking that the ‘popular’ names are the ones from your own childhood?

Archie was wildly popular when I had DC1 a decade ago; they were everywhere (and it had, unfairly, quite tacky connotations at one point). It’s definitely starting to date, along with all the Alfie’s, Charlie’s etc. Will be terribly dated in 5-10yrs.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 22:53

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:03

I didn't mind too much about it being a bit popular. I definitely wouldn't expect him to be the only one in his school with that name. Unique or really "out there" boys names aren't really my bag, I prefer them to be a little more classical. Girls names are much easier to go unique on IMO

I don't know any Archies. Good few Alfies's. I have nursery school kids and a primary one, lots of friends with kids that age and below. No Archies. And I wouldn't think of theirs when cuddling yours.

UrsulaPandress · 29/01/2023 22:52

Call him whatever you want/ like. I’m

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