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63 replies

CityBlue37 · 21/12/2022 08:08

My partner and I are not married (engaged 3years). We are having our first baby in 3 months and I'm really unsure whose surname the baby should have?
I don't like the idea of our baby having a different surname to me and we will get married within the next couple of years in which case we can change her name then but am I being selfish and over complicating things and should I just go with his surname?
Any thoughts?

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SkylightSkylight · 21/12/2022 12:47

Your name.

You're not married until you're married. Then if you take his name, you can easily change your baby's surname, but if you don't get married the child has the same name as their primary cater (except the very minute percentage where Dad becomes the primary carer).

Dacadactyl · 21/12/2022 12:41

Spenn · 21/12/2022 12:34

Children should be re registered after a marriage or civil partnership

If the parents have married or enter into a civil partnership after the child was born, they are legally required to re-register the birth. This is the case even if the father is already on the child’s birth certificate. This particular requirement stems from The Legitimacy Act, section 9.
The relevant form is LA1.
In the event that the father did not already have parental responsibility, the father will acquire parental responsibility once the birth has been re-registered in accordance with Section 4, sub-section 1 (a) of the Children Act 1989.

childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/register-and-re-register-a-childs-birth/

It's a legal requirement but the fine is £2 for not doing so iirc 
@Dacadactyl

Ah that's interesting, thank you.

TheFutureIs · 21/12/2022 12:37

I so wish I'd put my foot down and insisted on my little one having my surname. We weren't married and have now split up. She's with me most of the time

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 21/12/2022 12:36

Spidey66 · 21/12/2022 12:20

I thought it was traditional to take the father's name! But you can give the baby your name if you want.

Only if the mother is married to the father. The trend for babies (who are born to an unmarried couple) being given the dad's surname is pretty new.

Spenn · 21/12/2022 12:34

Children should be re registered after a marriage or civil partnership

If the parents have married or enter into a civil partnership after the child was born, they are legally required to re-register the birth. This is the case even if the father is already on the child’s birth certificate. This particular requirement stems from The Legitimacy Act, section 9.
The relevant form is LA1.
In the event that the father did not already have parental responsibility, the father will acquire parental responsibility once the birth has been re-registered in accordance with Section 4, sub-section 1 (a) of the Children Act 1989.

childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/register-and-re-register-a-childs-birth/

It's a legal requirement but the fine is £2 for not doing so iirc 
@Dacadactyl

bakewellbride · 21/12/2022 12:33

Each to their own but we did dad's surname only then i changed mine when we got married a couple of years after he was born. It was right for us. We now all have the same surname and have also had another baby.

Strokethefurrywall · 21/12/2022 12:33

Yours. 100 times over.

IggyAce · 21/12/2022 12:29

Yours or double barrelled.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 21/12/2022 12:28

I always think the child should take the mothers surname (whether that is her maiden or married name). Seems odd not to given the process that is gone through for her to have a child.

You and dp can theb decide if after marriage you and dc change to his name or he changes to match you and baby.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 21/12/2022 12:27

Your name. Then, when you marry, he can take this name.

Dacadactyl · 21/12/2022 12:26

Dacadactyl · 21/12/2022 12:24

You don't re-register the birth if you get married. Where have you read/heard this? It is not my understanding of it.

What I mean is that you only re register if you want to change the childs surname, to show "they are a natural child of the parents marriage"...or at least that is my understanding. But I could be wrong.

milawops · 21/12/2022 12:25

We aren't married and our children have a doubled barrelled surname. If we marry I will either keep my name or double barrel it. If you go that route be prepared for some push back. My partners father has taken the kids surname as a personal insult and I constantly had to correct him when he accidentally (100% on purpose) called them by the wrong name.

Dacadactyl · 21/12/2022 12:24

newrubylane · 21/12/2022 12:22

This is so interesting. My partner and I are not married yet, but I will take his name when we do and we gave our twins his surname. For context, we were engaged and the wedding date set before they were conceived, so in theory it would have been less than a year before we all had the same name anyway. In fact Covid happened, and they will be 4 by the time we actually marry next spring now. But it never occurred to me not to give them his name, really, even though we knew they would need to be re-registered after we married anyway. It doesn't bother me not having the same surname as them right now. I look forward to the day, very soon, when we will.

You don't re-register the birth if you get married. Where have you read/heard this? It is not my understanding of it.

TheTonEffect · 21/12/2022 12:23

I double-barrelled the baby's surname with my name going first!

TedMullins · 21/12/2022 12:22

Yours. If you all want the same surname when you get married he can take yours too.

newrubylane · 21/12/2022 12:22

This is so interesting. My partner and I are not married yet, but I will take his name when we do and we gave our twins his surname. For context, we were engaged and the wedding date set before they were conceived, so in theory it would have been less than a year before we all had the same name anyway. In fact Covid happened, and they will be 4 by the time we actually marry next spring now. But it never occurred to me not to give them his name, really, even though we knew they would need to be re-registered after we married anyway. It doesn't bother me not having the same surname as them right now. I look forward to the day, very soon, when we will.

Spidey66 · 21/12/2022 12:20

meditrina · 21/12/2022 11:42

It's traditional in Britain for babies to take their mother's surname (which of course matched the fathers if married)

It's quire recent (1980s-ish) to use a name other than the mothers, and it can cause problems (esp following relationship breakdown).

I'd go traditional and stick with using the mother's name

I thought it was traditional to take the father's name! But you can give the baby your name if you want.

Flapjackquack · 21/12/2022 12:14

RedRobyn2021 · 21/12/2022 12:05

Although I should add, my partner was so against our daughter just having my name. And he is not some anti-feminist brute. He was really upset at the idea. So you might have need to dig your heels in... family on his side also made their feelings known about it all.

I am glad you found a compromise for your family.

I appreciate that in your case your partner was upset about not featuring at all rather than double barrelling/changing his name. But I have to say I have little time for the men who are upset by the baby not having just their surname. A lot of men seem to take it as a given. The woman does all the work in producing the baby and yet the man seems to think they have a right for the baby to just have their surname and the woman doesn’t get represented at all. Grrrr.

TenThousandSpoons · 21/12/2022 12:06

Definitely give the baby your name. Why have you had such a long engagement and still not set a wedding date? Has he kept putting it off?

RedRobyn2021 · 21/12/2022 12:05

Although I should add, my partner was so against our daughter just having my name. And he is not some anti-feminist brute. He was really upset at the idea. So you might have need to dig your heels in... family on his side also made their feelings known about it all.

RedRobyn2021 · 21/12/2022 12:02

Personally, my child would be having my surname. For us, we weren't engaged but compromised by changing both of our names to something new before our baby arrived.

There was no way on Earth after all the work I'd gone through growing and birthing her (not to mention what I went through breastfeeding her) that she wasn't going to have my name.

SueVineer · 21/12/2022 12:02

Give her your name

MojoJojo71 · 21/12/2022 12:01

When you get married you have to re-register the baby anyway so id give the baby your surname for now and then if/when you get married if you decide to take his name you could change it to match and if you decide to keep your own name you could add his so the baby has both names.

Luellie · 21/12/2022 11:59

BuffaloCauliflower · 21/12/2022 08:14

Definitely give baby your name. It’s always been traditional that babies get mum’s name (if married she may have taken the dad’s name but it’s still then her name) the idea of giving Dad’s name when unmarried is a very new idea. If you change your name on marriage you can change their name then if you wish.

100% this

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 21/12/2022 11:57

Definitely your surname. Or both.

Practically it just makes so much more sense. Without wanting to be a buzzkill so many relationships breakdown so it's a no brainer to me that a child should share a surname with its mother/primary carer.