Using a name family don't like

TisforTucan · 2022-11-12T23:47:24+00:00

Has anyone used a name family didn't like? I really like a name Beau. Its unusual so I was on the fence until I've met two children named the same. Baby would have a traditional middle name but I can't find anything else I like. Family members have said they didn't like it straight away and OH doesn't hate it (he didn't name the last two 🤣). Help!

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KayEmAy · 07/06/2023 18:38

From the US here, Beau is not a weird name, I've met more than one of both genders

I can't speak for everyone's family dynamic but in mine, you're allowed to say your opinion, once maybe twice if your a grandparent, then you need to respect Mom and Dad because it's their baby! You don't have to like the name to love the baby lol

People regret obligation or honor names all the time, but I've rarely met someone who regrets a name they just love

BIWI · 07/06/2023 11:04

Zombie thread @SoShallINever - I'm sure the OP doesn't need your views any more.

SoShallINever · 06/06/2023 20:33

Beau just sounds so wet and soppy for a boy.

KirstenBlest · 23/02/2023 12:14

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Bronwyn is a Welsh feminine given name, a variant of the mostly feminine version Bronwen/Branwen, literally meaning "White Raven (or Crow)" or, abstractly, "White Breast" (from bran, raven, and bron ("breast") and [g]wen ("white, fair, blessed)".[1] Because the suffix -wyn is grammatically masculine in Welsh, Bronwyn is a spelling generally only used for female names in the English-speaking world outside Wales. The name may refer to:
[list of female Bronwyns]

From Geiriadur yr Academi
weasel1 n.Z:[-]
gwencif(gwencïod), bronwenf(bronwennod)

Yes, I speak Welsh fluently.

TheOriginalEmu · 23/02/2023 00:43

TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 23:34

Can I leave my own thread 😂 Now arguing where Welsh names came from and being Welsh it's annoying me 😂

Sorry! 😂😂😂

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TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 23:34

Can I leave my own thread 😂 Now arguing where Welsh names came from and being Welsh it's annoying me 😂

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TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 21:19

KirstenBlest · 21/02/2023 19:03

@TisforTucan , they are of Welsh origin but they have been anglicised in a way that makes them look like men's names.
Bronwen is the Welsh word for weasel, heulwen is the Welsh word for sunshine.

The name that's ridiculous is Olwyn. It's a name that has been used, but it's a misspelling of Olwen. Olwyn is the word for wheel.

The -wyn bit is masculine from gwyn, the -wen is feminine and from gwen.

They have not been anglicised. They are Welsh names that are the masculine variant. Like Olive and Oliver. Bronwyn is male, Bronwen is female. It also doesn’t mean weasel, it means Blessed or fair Breast or hill. The word bronwen also means weasel but it’s not what the name means. Gwencï is the more usual word for weasel.
Do you even speak any welsh?

TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 21:09

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:59

If you met someone whose name was "Sexy" you'd probably smirk at that, at least in private. Don't pretend otherwise.

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Right…is sexy a gendered word then?? I don’t think so. I’d find sexy a bit odd yes, as it’s a very specific type of word. But would I laugh at a girl called Handsome? No. Or a boy called Beauty? No.

chipshopElvis · 21/02/2023 19:08

Yep. My mum and aunt both expressed extreme displeasure dds name. Of course 12 years later its not an issue!

KirstenBlest · 21/02/2023 19:03

@TisforTucan , they are of Welsh origin but they have been anglicised in a way that makes them look like men's names.
Bronwen is the Welsh word for weasel, heulwen is the Welsh word for sunshine.

The name that's ridiculous is Olwyn. It's a name that has been used, but it's a misspelling of Olwen. Olwyn is the word for wheel.

The -wyn bit is masculine from gwyn, the -wen is feminine and from gwen.

flutterbyebaby · 21/02/2023 16:56

My Goddaughter is a Beau, it's a lovely name

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TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 16:51

KirstenBlest · 21/02/2023 13:26

@TheOriginalEmu , the people describing your DS as a petite brunette must be pretty weird.
The footballer is mixed race and Rhian is an african boy's name
Bronwyn and Heulwyn are weird spellings but not adjectives. (Stoat and Sunshine misspelt, I think). I can't think of what Eowyn could be in Welsh but it's from LOTR and not misspelt

Beau for a girl is as wrong as Belle for a boy.

Bronwyn and Heulwyn are names of Welsh origin so wouldn't shout that too loudly particularly in small villages in Wales 😂

I know two Bronwyn and one Heulwyn.

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babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:59

TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 15:49

Of course it would be the problem of grown people who are so immature as to find a girl with a masculine-ish name ‘hilarious’.
what a weird way to behave.

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If you met someone whose name was "Sexy" you'd probably smirk at that, at least in private. Don't pretend otherwise.

TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 15:58

KirstenBlest · 21/02/2023 13:26

@TheOriginalEmu , the people describing your DS as a petite brunette must be pretty weird.
The footballer is mixed race and Rhian is an african boy's name
Bronwyn and Heulwyn are weird spellings but not adjectives. (Stoat and Sunshine misspelt, I think). I can't think of what Eowyn could be in Welsh but it's from LOTR and not misspelt

Beau for a girl is as wrong as Belle for a boy.

Bronwyn and Heulwyn are not misspellings, they are perfectly normal names. They are strongly gendered in Welsh. It is no different to Beau being gendered in French. I have met many a female Bronwyn and I managed to contain myself at the hilarity 👀 because I’m not 3 years old.
Rhian Brewster’s name is not African. I have no idea where you dreamed that up from.

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:58

It's neither here nor there whether you think I'm narrow minded or rude, because tons of other people (including the entire populations of certain countries) will think the same thing.

Unless you're planning to raise him on an uninhabited island, of course he will meet some of them.

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TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 15:52

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:31

And you shouldn't need to raise a child "strong enough" to ignore the obvious and predictable comments he will get about the stupid name you gave him, when the alternative option is to just...not give him a stupid name in the first place.

Fingers crossed he never meets anyone who is as narrow minded and outspokenly rude as you I guess? Will also make a mental note to avoid Paris incase and go Disneyland Florida 😂

Maybe now you've 'educated' me you can go message Joe Biden on the choice of his late son's name too? I'm not interested anymore.

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TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 15:49

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 14:10

It's going to be a problem every time they encounter someone who thinks their name is hilarious, which is going to happen all the time if they happen to be in a French speaking country.

And it's going to be their problem, not the problem of the people who think the name is stupid.

I'd take the "it's their problem" approach if it were something my kid had no control over, like having a birth mark. But I wouldn't deliberately create the problem.

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Of course it would be the problem of grown people who are so immature as to find a girl with a masculine-ish name ‘hilarious’.
what a weird way to behave.

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:31

And you shouldn't need to raise a child "strong enough" to ignore the obvious and predictable comments he will get about the stupid name you gave him, when the alternative option is to just...not give him a stupid name in the first place.

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 15:31

No, your son might never travel to France or a French speaking country. Maybe he'll never leave the town where he is born. But why limit him in this way before he's even here?

The reason I'm invested is because I live in France and I'm telling you that every French speaker he meets will find his name utterly stupid. Some will be too polite to say so, so they'll just think it. Some will say it out loud, which will be incredibly irritating for him.

It's not at all comparable to having a foreign name. I live with a foreign name in France. People can't pronounce it, which is annoying enough, but I live with it.

It's not the same as having a random word in the local language as your first name, not even because that word happens to be a legitimate name in your own country, but because your parents were daft and thought it sounded cool.

But if you insist on inflicting this name on your child, neither I nor anyone else can stop you.

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TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 14:46

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 14:29

Clearly you're determined to use this silly name, OP, and no one can stop you.

But I feel sorry for your kid. It will be limiting for him if he wants to travel, and you're willing to dump that hassle on him later down the line just because you like the name.

If you had no idea why the name could cause problems and you used it, well, that would be unfortunate, but it couldn't be helped.

You do know, because you've got people explaining it to you, and you want to use the name anyway just because you like it, suggesting that it's other people's problem if they don't like your name.

No it isn't other people's problem. It'll be your kid's problem.

Now maybe if you raise a kid with pretty narrow horizons who either has no interest in or not enough money to ever travel abroad, it won't matter. But if your kid is ambitious, wants to travel, wants to live abroad, wants to do the kind of job where he is working in an international environment or even just working with educated people, being named Beau is likely to be a source of embarrassment.

But hey, you think your fondness for the name is more important than those things. Can't fathom it myself.

I don't know why you are so invested? You are making a load of assumptions here on what? Do you know his future? What if he never ever sets foot in France?! I just don't understand why you are so obsessed with the thought of my son traveling to France lol.. bizarre.

I don't need people to explain it to me because I didn't ask and you seem to be the only person that invested in the name. Did you read my initial post? Clarification here - Yes, it is my choice and no (again) I didn't ask for your opinion on the name. If you are that bent out of shape go make a thread about Beau's not being able to visit France or Europe.

By the way, my DH travelled the world, lived in places where people spoke different languages, and he had a version of a name in a different language (think Scottish, Welsh ect) . So I can actually inform you that his name caused him no issue, not once did his name come up when he was schooled abroad, only the colour of his skin. We both know very well first hand what it is like and the only people to pick up on it were school children.

I'd also like to think i raise strong enough children to ignore petty people who do not judge them on their name.

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babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 14:29

Clearly you're determined to use this silly name, OP, and no one can stop you.

But I feel sorry for your kid. It will be limiting for him if he wants to travel, and you're willing to dump that hassle on him later down the line just because you like the name.

If you had no idea why the name could cause problems and you used it, well, that would be unfortunate, but it couldn't be helped.

You do know, because you've got people explaining it to you, and you want to use the name anyway just because you like it, suggesting that it's other people's problem if they don't like your name.

No it isn't other people's problem. It'll be your kid's problem.

Now maybe if you raise a kid with pretty narrow horizons who either has no interest in or not enough money to ever travel abroad, it won't matter. But if your kid is ambitious, wants to travel, wants to live abroad, wants to do the kind of job where he is working in an international environment or even just working with educated people, being named Beau is likely to be a source of embarrassment.

But hey, you think your fondness for the name is more important than those things. Can't fathom it myself.

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TisforTucan · 21/02/2023 14:16

Right because this has got pure ridiculous I just want to make one thing clear, I never asked advice on my name, I don't care what you think (or europe.. or the French think) I was asking opinions on how families acted with names others named their children. He will have a traditional middle name like my other children (who both have traditional names). Hope this clears things up as to be honest I thought my thread had died already.

@babyjellyfish Then he has a strong English middle name and he uses that? I'll be honest with 3 kids and currently renovating a house we don't plan on traveling Europe yet with him 😂. Might visit Disneyland Paris when he's 3 or 4 to appreciate it with my other children but gosh I'll have to use his middle name while we are there as the French might throw stones at him.

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babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 14:10

TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 13:18

what problems? It isn’t going to be a problem except when people like you make it one.

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It's going to be a problem every time they encounter someone who thinks their name is hilarious, which is going to happen all the time if they happen to be in a French speaking country.

And it's going to be their problem, not the problem of the people who think the name is stupid.

I'd take the "it's their problem" approach if it were something my kid had no control over, like having a birth mark. But I wouldn't deliberately create the problem.

KirstenBlest · 21/02/2023 13:26

@TheOriginalEmu , the people describing your DS as a petite brunette must be pretty weird.
The footballer is mixed race and Rhian is an african boy's name
Bronwyn and Heulwyn are weird spellings but not adjectives. (Stoat and Sunshine misspelt, I think). I can't think of what Eowyn could be in Welsh but it's from LOTR and not misspelt

Beau for a girl is as wrong as Belle for a boy.

TheOriginalEmu · 21/02/2023 13:18

babyjellyfish · 21/02/2023 13:12

Well, you do you.

But personally if I knew that calling my child a particular name could cause problems for them in later life, I wouldn't do it.

what problems? It isn’t going to be a problem except when people like you make it one.