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Change baby’s ‘nickname’ name to its longer form

59 replies

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 16:12

I have a 5 month old DS with a name that would be considered a ‘nickname’ name. He’s officially registered as this name but part of me keeps wondering if we should have given him the traditional longer form as his ‘official’ name to give him more options when he’s older.

I guess his name would be considered as a bit ‘cutesy’ by some - fine for a baby but possibly not for a grown man. I don’t really see it like that and think by the time he is grown there will be a long list of Reggies, Montys, Alfies, etc so it will be the norm.

I also don’t particularly like the traditional name that we would give him (I don’t hate it but it’s not something I would choose!) I won’t give the name as I’m not after opinions on the actual name but it would be similar to having a ‘Teddy’ but having ‘Edward’ on the birth certificate.

Should I have the courage of my convictions and keep the name we chose for him and love, or should I give him options for when he’s older?!

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ChilliBandit · 22/09/2022 23:02

Is it Freddie? If so I’d leave it.

worriedatthistime · 22/09/2022 23:01

Why do people say Teddy is stupid as an adult , it will just be Ted , know several older adult Teds
Also in 50 years will be tons of Teddy, alfie etc
Teddy Sheringham no one batted an eyelid,an american president even went by his nickname of Teddy
It really only seems an issue on mumsnet , nickname names etc not in real life

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 22/09/2022 22:59

Plenty of traditional names have no flexibility (eg Sarah, Claire) so no need to feel like he needs "choice"

There's also plenty of perfectly suitable names that are derivatives (eg Kate, Meg) that stand totally fine alone.

Leave it.

worriedatthistime · 22/09/2022 22:56

My ds has shortened version of his name but neither him or us like the longer version and would never of used it
His name is short but his mates call him a nickname version of his surname anywY ( teenager)

DeeDeeDaisy · 22/09/2022 22:46

It's his name. I know an adult James but only ever goes by Jimmy, he might as well just be called Jimmy. I also know an adult Charlie, who is Charlie on his birth certificate. I know an Ellie (not Eleanor) and a Ben (not Benjamin) and they all have 'professional' jobs (3 are teachers, 1 is an accountant) and no one cares that they have nicknamey names.

I'm an Elizabeth. I like the name Elizabeth, but no one ever calls me that. All my life I've just introduced myself as Beth and people are always surprised when they find out I'm Elizabeth. Options are nice but I never use them. I do sometimes wish I was just called Beth for simplicity.

I say just keep his name! That's the name you love and chose for him.

LoveBluey · 22/09/2022 22:19

I chose to use the longer versions of the names on birth certificate and then in daily life I switch between using the full name and the established shortening/nickname.
I like the choice.
The only trouble I find is I often forget which name I've booked things under (playgroups/activities etc). Anything official like doctors has the full name but even school has the shortened one on most documents. It is confusing!

GandalfsRing · 22/09/2022 22:13

In my opinion you should change it.
im Lucy. My sisters got ‘sophisticated’ names that have many shortenings and Im stuck with a little girls name. It’s the reason I gave my children are Elizabeth and Vincent on their birth certificates even though we don’t call them that

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 21:30

SummaLuvin · 22/09/2022 21:24

Advice and lived experiences are always valuable, but you can't assume your feelings apply to everyone. I know a Billy who physically cringes as being called his full name - William - as he hates it so much. The exact opposite of how you feel.

There are similar debates on this page about name popularity - some parents actively seeking very popular names as they hated standing out with an unusual name, and others who were one of 5 Hannahs and want their children to feel like they have their own identity. The problem with naming children is that they can't tell you what they want until long after the choice has been made.

This is really helpful and I’m trying to be of the mindset that [most] people grow into their names. I can’t imagine him as a fully grown man with any name because right now he’s a tiny baby - and let’s face it very few babies actually ‘look’ like their names. He has a very traditional middle name that he can fall back on if he absolutely hates his first name. But hopefully he will grow up surrounded by so much love and security that he will love his name as much as we do.

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Sodie · 22/09/2022 21:29

My youngest son (9) has gone by a completely different unrelated name from birth. School, doctors etc he is down by this name. He has never been called his birth name, and most people don't even know. The name he goes by isn't one I would have chosen but he suits it.

SummaLuvin · 22/09/2022 21:24

DreadingWinter · 22/09/2022 19:01

Change it to the proper name. Nicknames are awful. I knew someone who was a teacher and ashamed to tell people his name and went by the long version even though he was legally the nickname.

Advice and lived experiences are always valuable, but you can't assume your feelings apply to everyone. I know a Billy who physically cringes as being called his full name - William - as he hates it so much. The exact opposite of how you feel.

There are similar debates on this page about name popularity - some parents actively seeking very popular names as they hated standing out with an unusual name, and others who were one of 5 Hannahs and want their children to feel like they have their own identity. The problem with naming children is that they can't tell you what they want until long after the choice has been made.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 22/09/2022 21:19

Change it

SummaLuvin · 22/09/2022 21:13

There isn't right answer. "Nickname' names are very popular so your Archie (for example) will grow up with Alfie, Freddie, Charlie, and Reggie... so it will not stand out as usual and juvenile as it does to people of 25+, as there will be hundreds and hundreds of adults with these names. However, longer names gives the child the choice of their own options - Alex can only really be Alex or Al. but Alexander has lots of choices and I would value this for a child. That being said, I have a longer name with loads of options and growing up I felt it was far too long and didn't like it!

whosaidtha · 22/09/2022 19:22

It really does depend on the name. My brother is Alfie and it's not a problem but teddy is stupid for an adult. I would probably put the longer version then he had options. He can use it or not.

namechangeagain123456 · 22/09/2022 19:21

DreadingWinter · 22/09/2022 19:01

Change it to the proper name. Nicknames are awful. I knew someone who was a teacher and ashamed to tell people his name and went by the long version even though he was legally the nickname.

I know a teacher called Abbie (not Abigail) and she's never had a problem or felt ashamed!

CookPassBabtridge · 22/09/2022 19:13

I have an Alfie and Charlie and there will be tons of them as adults.
Don't give them the longer name, that is not what you called them! The threads on here are started by middle class snooty twats so don't let them make you anxious. God we have enough to deal with in life without minutiae like this.

PrimroseWharf · 22/09/2022 19:03

Personally I’d change it

DreadingWinter · 22/09/2022 19:01

Change it to the proper name. Nicknames are awful. I knew someone who was a teacher and ashamed to tell people his name and went by the long version even though he was legally the nickname.

Adultchildofelderlyparents · 22/09/2022 18:54

I think it depends how "nicknamey" his name is. For me, some names are just too nicknamey to go on the birth certificate while others are fine. Each to their own though and I wouldn't judge others, it's just, as you say, about giving him the options.
So for example, to me, Thomas and Tom are both fine on a birth certificate but Tommy should only be a nickname.
Jonathan and John are both fine, but Johnny should only be a nickname.

wigywhoo · 22/09/2022 18:20

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 16:12

I have a 5 month old DS with a name that would be considered a ‘nickname’ name. He’s officially registered as this name but part of me keeps wondering if we should have given him the traditional longer form as his ‘official’ name to give him more options when he’s older.

I guess his name would be considered as a bit ‘cutesy’ by some - fine for a baby but possibly not for a grown man. I don’t really see it like that and think by the time he is grown there will be a long list of Reggies, Montys, Alfies, etc so it will be the norm.

I also don’t particularly like the traditional name that we would give him (I don’t hate it but it’s not something I would choose!) I won’t give the name as I’m not after opinions on the actual name but it would be similar to having a ‘Teddy’ but having ‘Edward’ on the birth certificate.

Should I have the courage of my convictions and keep the name we chose for him and love, or should I give him options for when he’s older?!

Change it, he has choice then. Our son is Thomas - we still sometimes call him Tom, but he always uses Thomas.

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 18:19

@namechangeagain123456 yes of course!
Yep, every day I think of a different name and wonder if I should have picked that and then tell myself I’m being stupid as there’s no way I’m changing it to a completely different name now!!

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namechangeagain123456 · 22/09/2022 18:16

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 18:02

@namechangeagain123456 honestly I could have written your post myself 😂The CEO of a FTSE 100 company that my friend works for has the same name as my boy so I’d like to think he wouldn’t be held back by his name! And I do think there are so many ‘different’ baby names these days that in 10/20 years time no one will
even be commenting on it. But it’s still such a mind f’ck isn’t it? I wish I had my DH’s attitude to it!

@CastleTower haha don’t worry it’s
not Archibald! But I guess if a cutesy name like Archie is good enough for royalty then I don’t really have a problem 😊

I wonder if they have the same name 🤣 can I PM you and ask what your little ones called 🤣 I worry about it sooo much that I think I don't even really like his name anymore 🤦🏼‍♀️ my partner literally roles his eyes when I mention it now, every day I'm like 'maybe we should have called him (insert different name every day) instead' and he's like are you still going on about this 🤣 xx

SunshineInMyPockett · 22/09/2022 18:02

@namechangeagain123456 honestly I could have written your post myself 😂The CEO of a FTSE 100 company that my friend works for has the same name as my boy so I’d like to think he wouldn’t be held back by his name! And I do think there are so many ‘different’ baby names these days that in 10/20 years time no one will
even be commenting on it. But it’s still such a mind f’ck isn’t it? I wish I had my DH’s attitude to it!

@CastleTower haha don’t worry it’s
not Archibald! But I guess if a cutesy name like Archie is good enough for royalty then I don’t really have a problem 😊

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RuthW · 22/09/2022 17:23

Change it.

CastleTower · 22/09/2022 17:05

If you look at the most popular names from 100+ years ago, there are loads of names like this. People tend to assume this is a recent thing, but it really isn't.

If you're asking if you should name a child Archibald, by the way, I really wouldn't. 😄

BusySittingDown · 22/09/2022 16:32

I think if you like the nickname name then just leave it! There are so many Albies, Alfies, Mollys, Millies now and they will soon be adults.

To give you the other side of the coin, I named DD2 a full name version of her nickname. She is known only by the nickname. She goes mad if anyone calls her the full version 😂. She is almost a teen so not "little".

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