Apparently my sons have ‘naughty boy’ names…

If there was such a thing, those names aren't that

I’m in Scotland and those definitely aren’t naughty boy names here. Most name associations I have are related to specific people so I’d say they vary widely from place to place and person to person. Just because one person thinks that (and was rude enough to tell you) doesn’t mean anyone else will.

To be honest I think we all have associations with names because of experience. The only name I'd worry about and actually made me raise an eyebrow when I heard it was Loki, and yes he was living up to it at the time!

I never had those names down as naughty names! Love the comment about your friend having a mean girl name😁

It could be worst someone commented that my DS name sounded like an American porn star! I laugh about it now.

So not Ronnie and Reggie Kray then?

@Ignoranceisbliss44

Don’t be a dope. It’s a name forum, people are going to express views on names. If you don’t want to see comments from people who might not like your kids’ names, don’t come on the forum.

It’s not remotely the same as being rude about someone’s kid’s name IRL.

They are absolutely lovely names! I think you've got great, timeless taste. But that's because they're names I'd pick too.

@inmyslippers I’ll stand with you slippers. Cannot stand Margot.

Your “friend” is being ridiculous!
Your boys have lovely names. FWIW, the naughtiest boy in DDS class is Hugo. He’s known as horrible Hugo.

I think Mumsnet is a world of its own. In real life I'd expect people to keep thoughts of "naughty boy names" to themselves. Online there's no filter. I'll openly say I hate Margot and Oscar which is mumsnet blasphemy.

I thought you were going to say a ‘K’ name like Kai, Kayden, Kyle…which are much sneered at on here.

your names are lovely.

And for all those who tell the OP her friend was a bitch to say her boys have chavvy/ naughty names, and then proceed to give their own list of names that they perceive to be chavvy/ naughty - well you are just as bad as the OP's friend.

OP's friend clearly upset OP, in the same way you have upset other mums with your own assumptions of our children's names.

I almost lost my son as a baby, and the fact he survived is a miracle in itself regardless of the name I chose for him.

I don't think either of those names are traditionally 'naughty boy' names but then I've not met an Arran in real life so it's not a common one.

Just ignore what she said. It was incredibly insensitive to say such a thing to you. Mind you my friend gets told that regularly about her sons' name - he's called Jack. It seems to be something people feel free to say to the mothers!

My youngest has a classic "naughty boy name" according to the MCPB (Mumsnet Chavvy Police Brigade).
He doesn't fit their stereotypical views at all. Yes, he has his moments (don't they all!) but he is a an inspirational boy who has come through so much.
He can't speak due to his disability, but has a smile for everyone he meets.
His name is short and easy to say, meaning he recognised it from an early age.
It suits him perfectly.

They're not naughty names. The Arran's I've had were the quietly stubborn determined sort. The Skye's I've had are more varied, but generally a delight and very sweet. All the Lewis' I've taught were very gentle and focused.

Obviously names don't determine personalities, but some names definitely have connotations for me. Oscar is the name I look at and think uh oh usually. They're often full of beans and curiosity in equal measures which is a dangerous combination for my sanity.

I wouldn’t associate Arran and Lewis with naughty boy names. They are good Scottish names. The only name I think of as a “naughty boy name” is Jordan. Each of my children had one in their year and they were all outrageously “naughty”. However, on reflection, I suspect they all had undiagnosed SN’s. I do know a lovely Jordan though.

My son had a very naughty boy friend and his name was Oliver!! A name is just a name

Your friend is wrong - neither of those names is a "naughty boy" name.

There definitely are names that are more likely to belong to unruly kids from rough homes. But even for those names 95% of the children who have that name will be lovely normal kids.

’Naughty boy’ names = nonsense and just barely concealed snobbery. Ignore it.

I’m always aghast when you get teachers on MN using this phrase. I work in education and my experience has been that there is absolutely no such thing, it’s a way to put down working class people… and anyone who judges children (or anyone!) by the name their parents gave them is a massive twat.

We did have a boy called Kayos one year. Obviously he didn’t pick his name but there was concern about nominative determinism.

I know an incredibly intelligent and cultured Lewis, if that helps.

Not the names I expected to see when I opened the post!

As another has said further up, a few names pop up in my head but it’s the association with particular children I’ve taught in the past. When I was NQT 18 years ago there was an absolute handful named Alisha in my class. Her behaviour and my lack of experience (the fault of neither of us!) meant I was filled with dread when I saw the same name (different child) a couple of years later. It’s not the name, it’s the individual child, their needs and personality, their upbringing etc etc.

They are beautiful names, ignore your friend. I’ve been teaching 20 years and neither makes me think naughty. People are right it is often about class expectations but obviously actually bullocks, I think certain names become very popular so inevitably you get a mix of behaviours, it was interesting that article how many names flipped between lists. I hope teachers don’t often make judgments on first names, I have some conversations about new kids based on a familiar surname rather than first name (but do always, always start with expectations they will be lovely regardless).

I immediately thought you were going to say their names were similar to those pps mentioned. Never would consider your names naughty.

She sounds like Katie Hopkins slating baby names and saying "Paris, Brooklyn" I hate places for names" and Philip Schofield said "...Your daughters name is India "😂