Apparently my sons have ‘naughty boy’ names…

I am Scottish, I live in Scotland and I have a grandson whose name is Arran (after the Isle of Arran). It's a lovely name and gaining in popularity although sometimes it is spelt Aran by some. Lewis too is a lovely name and I know or have known a few

Your 'friend' is just being nasty- for whatever reason. Jealousy maybe? Whatever, you could do without her 'friendship'

In the first place, if she actually believes what she is telling you, then at the very least if she was really a friend she shouldn't have said anything, but if she did she would certainly have apologised when she realised she had upset you

Secondly though if she believes what she is telling you she is also both stupid and ignorant. It is true that as individuals, if we come across someone called [XYZ] and they are either really lovely people/children or really troublesome, it will colour our views when we meet other people with the same names in the future: but many lists made up and found on the internet aren't FACT - they are someone's opinion, often meant to get a laugh and aren't meant to be taken seriously

I hope you ditch this so-called friend permanently.

Gorgeous names! Not naughty at all. Iona would also be lovely if you have a girl😊

She sounds like a rubbish friend. Maybe you could tell her she has a ‘nasty woman name’ since she’s clearly nasty and her name therefore is the name of a nasty person.

Thanks everyone.

I did actually speak to my friend yesterday and told her that her comment had made
me feel a bit uncomfortable and that it upset me to think people would assume my children were naughty just because of their names.

She told me that my children aren’t naughty…but she only knows that because she knows them, but if she didn’t know them then she would assume they would be naughty children because of their names.

I asked her why she couldn’t see that would upset me and she said I was taking it too personally and I was overreacting.

She really pissed me off and so I made my excuses and left.

Absolute nonsense.. I wouldn’t consider them to be naughty at all..

My Kids school, DS says there were loads of naughty Joseph’s in his year (Catholic school) And would you consider Joseph a naughty name? No way I would.. x

You have misread my post, if that is what you think I said.

The tabloids keep running goady features such as This school secretary reveals what teachers r e a l l y think of your kid's name, which are rife with prejudiced, classist nonsense like this. Terrible snobbery and says more about your friend than it does about your boys.

I work in a nursery (for children who aren’t excluded from schools or childcare) and there are lots of names I see a lot of. Because they are popular/trendy names in my area. Unless you’ve been to a school for brilliantly behaved scholarship children in the same area then you can’t really judge as you’ve no control subject.

I work in a PRU (school for children excluded from school) and there are definitely some names we see a lot of. These aren't them though.

How can you put ‘shame’ on anyone when in one swoop you’ve implied that uneducated and lower class are one and the same, and that those people ‘don’t follow traditions.’

Many lower class people have an education. Most of them follow some traditions. They’re not less evolved or less human, they’re just less wealthy.

Wow. I am shocked at how many people on here are assuming that Arran and Lewis are lower class names and that the friend put them down due to snobbery. Is it because they are Scottish names??! Unbelievable. Scotland, Ireland and Wales have very distinct nomenclature traditions and actually uneducated people (I suspect posters are equating them with 'lower class') don't tend to follow traditions of any sort. Arran and Lewis are not 'lower class' names, they're Scottish names, shame on any of you suggesting this.

@DuchessOfSausage I've heard of Roman Kemp - DJ and son of Martin & Shirley (Spandau Ballet). Or maybe Abramovich if they were Chelsea fans back in the day, not so much now!

Ezra - George Ezra maybe?

Arlo - no idea sorry! 😂 except Arlo in the Little Dinosaur movie

@SummerLobelia , Sebastian was fairly steady in popularity but became a lot more popular in the last decade. I have never met one at school, uni or in the workplace.
I only know of young Jensons.
Lando is the one to become popular next.

Max and Lewis have remained fairly steady but have got more popular around the time the F1 drivers became successful

Roman, Ezra and Arlo are names that have become very popular very quickly, and there are probably some famous celebrities with those names that have shot to prominence fairly recently.

The only Lewis is know in real life is a barrister, so definitely not a naughty boy. I have an uncle Aaron (social worker), and a colleague Aron (senior NHS manager).

There is a Nevaeh in DS’s class, lovely little girl. Beautifully well-behaved and polite.

I don't follow formula 1 but could easily see myself naming a child Sebastian. It's a regular sort of name after all.

Mind you, I did sort of raise my eyebrows at a colleague who named her child after a game of Thrones character when that was all over the tv. It's a pretty name though.

@Calphurnia88 , The sort of parent who would name their child after a celebrity. Not necessarily deliberately, but without considering why the name has become on their radar.

This.

They aren’t on my list of naughty names.

What is 'that sort of parent'? 🤔

Arran and Lewis are brilliant names!

@CPL593H , Sebastian became very popular after the F1 driver became successful, so will have appealed to that sort of parent.

I was told some years ago by a colleague that her teacher friend said all boys called Sebastian were without exception, naughty.

Flyte I suppose possibly. Saint, perhaps not so much.

It's all such nonsense OP, they are fine names and ignore anyone saying otherwise.

Should add that the naughty boy name thing is clearly a snooty and unpleasant take in any case.

Lewis not remotely naughty in Wales.
I hadn't heard Arran as a person's
name before, so no negative association in that respect and I think it's nice.
Your friend clearly has different cultural antennae to me. She has also been tactless and rude.

I feel the same - it’s basically like trying to cup water in your hands pointing out to people that they are being blinkered by their own tragic prejudices.

Connor? Naughty boy. Cian? Naughty boy. Calum? Naughty boy. Liam? Chavvy. Aaliyah? Stripper. Leila? Porn star. What do all these names have in common? Hmm… not traditional English would be the kicker really. It’s embarrassing and makes the posters (who I imagine are trying to look ever so classy) so small minded and silly.

OP, Arran and Lewis are lovely names that reflect your boys' heritage. Your friend is very bad mannered.

I detest the idea that there are 'naughty boy names' and I challenge it on here whenever I can be bothered. It's like trying to hold back the tide, though. It really does piss me off as it's so bloody ignorant. It's nearly always names of Irish or Scottish origin too.

I also have a son who has what some on here describe as a naughty boy name. The name also reflects his heritage, Irish in our case. I had to hide a thread about it a while back as it was making me so annoyed.