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Lilith

110 replies

FrancescaJade1 · 22/06/2022 08:12

Hi, I am due soon and have chosen the name of my baby. She is going to be called Lilith. My parents have basically said if I call her that, then there is no way she can be baptised as it is demonic. I know the origins of the name, but don't see why it is an issue. Her other name will be Rebekkah....so compromise. Am I actually making a mistake ?

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Stranrahh · 06/01/2023 15:16

Wiluli · 06/01/2023 15:10

You forget every woman who stands up for herself in religion is called a demon a whore or worse . She is demonised because she stands up to men and that is never ok in any religion . That is off course of anyone is silly enough to believe any of it .

Well said!

I love Lilith. A strong name

Wiluli · 06/01/2023 15:10

Rickandmortified100 · 06/01/2023 15:02

She was also a baby-killing demon of the night, according to the exact same story …

You forget every woman who stands up for herself in religion is called a demon a whore or worse . She is demonised because she stands up to men and that is never ok in any religion . That is off course of anyone is silly enough to believe any of it .

Rickandmortified100 · 06/01/2023 15:02

Wiluli · 06/01/2023 14:40

I caught this thread by coincidence but wanted to say my daughters name is Lilith and we never have any bad comments and she is far from demonic .
To the religions fanatics here ( there seem to be many ) Lilith was Adam first wife who basically told him she refused to be beneath him . I call that the first ever feminist ! Lilith rocks

She was also a baby-killing demon of the night, according to the exact same story …

Wiluli · 06/01/2023 14:40

I caught this thread by coincidence but wanted to say my daughters name is Lilith and we never have any bad comments and she is far from demonic .
To the religions fanatics here ( there seem to be many ) Lilith was Adam first wife who basically told him she refused to be beneath him . I call that the first ever feminist ! Lilith rocks

Evelynparker · 26/06/2022 18:53

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 18:41

I'd think 'WTF were the parents thinking?' about all of those, apart from Axle.
I would think that Axel's parents either couldn't spell or the registrar made a typo.

Axel is fine but Axle makes me think of axle grease

Yes, he's my cousin and I did point out they spelt it incorrectly but apparently they did it on purpose which I guess it's their child but a bit odd.

I also forgot about Forrest.

What I was trying to say is baby names these days are more out there so I'm not sure Lilith would be questioned like it would now.

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 18:41

I'd think 'WTF were the parents thinking?' about all of those, apart from Axle.
I would think that Axel's parents either couldn't spell or the registrar made a typo.

Axel is fine but Axle makes me think of axle grease

Kanaloa · 26/06/2022 16:06

I mean obviously you know some extremely unusual parents. For what it’s worth I would seriously discourage anyone from choosing names like Lucifer or Echo-Love as well. I think they’re a desperate attempt at edginess that just gives your child a lifetime of silly comments and explanations.

EvelynParker · 26/06/2022 14:42

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 13:07

@EvelynParker , most children don't have 'WTF were the parents thinking'
names.

OP is going with Rebekkah, which will probably misspelled a lot

Here's some names I know children have been called in the last two years
Lucifer
Echo-Love
Qullian
Storm
Axle
Kind
Ember

And although they maybe aren't WTF names (except lucifer) they may raise a few eyebrows

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 13:07

@EvelynParker , most children don't have 'WTF were the parents thinking'
names.

OP is going with Rebekkah, which will probably misspelled a lot

EvelynParker · 26/06/2022 12:51

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 12:39

@BenCoopersSupportWren , aeven if recruiters recruit blindly, someone with a 'WTF were the parents thinking' name will face judgement or prejudice in their life.

Isn't that going to be the case for most babies and children at threat point? Some of the names people are using now are unusual so I don't know if they'll look twice at Lilith but OP decided on Rebecca (forgot how she spells it) anyway

FayCarew · 26/06/2022 12:39

@BenCoopersSupportWren , aeven if recruiters recruit blindly, someone with a 'WTF were the parents thinking' name will face judgement or prejudice in their life.

gemma1993 · 26/06/2022 12:26

Meaning aside, I just think it’s one of those names people choose when they like Lily but want to be a bit different (sorry).

honestly just call her Lily or Lilian. So much nicer. Lilith doesn’t sound nice.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 26/06/2022 09:00

FayCarew · 22/06/2022 12:58

@SpaceJamtart , other children might not but teachers and future employers will, and the child will be judged for their parents' choice of name

This “future recruiters will be put off by the name” comment is trotted out so many times, and it’s utter bullshit that reflects more badly on the judgemental nature of the posters who say it than on anyone else.

I’m a recruiter and, quite apart from the fact a lot of companies sift applications ‘blind’ these days (to overcome the prejudices and biases of people like the PP), I don’t care what someone is called if they demonstrate they have the skills we’re looking for. They’re being recruited into an organisation of professional adults who can behave themselves well enough not to comment negatively on someone’s name to their face…most people grow out of that by the time they’ve left school.

Kanaloa · 25/06/2022 16:08

tobi21 · 23/06/2022 16:25

@Kanaloa not sure where the logic of naming myself a name I'd choose for my child comes in tbh. I think Lucifer is a bit different because most people are aware of that meaning but evidently from this thread a lot of people wouldn't immediately jump to negative connotations for Lilith. I think if you're not religious yourself it has absolutely no weight on the decision. I don't think the majority of people upon finding out your child's name rush to find out it's meaning either.
There's plenty of names out there that people may turn their noses up at,but it's their child their decision and as long as they love it who caresSmile

But it does have weight regardless of whether you’re religious. In the same way I wouldn’t name my child Mohammed just because I like it and then say ‘oh I’m not religious so it has no weight.’

And the whole ‘it’s their child so it’s about if they love it’ isn’t really my mindset. I think too many people name their child thinking of themselves. I tried to name my kids thinking of names I liked but also names that were wearable and versatile. Whether or not you love it is really not important - you don’t need to live with it.

Ouchmytoe100 · 25/06/2022 14:42

Lilith is horrible. People are trying to twist the name into something feminist and strong but Lilith is supposed to be a grotesque demon who literally steals and murders babies so it's just ignorant to act like it's a feminist thing. Maybe people just read name a board where it's listed as a cool feminist name (because she is meant to be Adams first wife before Eve who was banished because she insisted on going on top during sex - which isnt even a nice thing to associate with your innocent baby either) but really the story is far worse than that. If you want to associate your child with a story about sex and child murder than go ahead but personally i think it's awful and cruel and will lead to bullying.

tobi21 · 23/06/2022 16:25

@Kanaloa not sure where the logic of naming myself a name I'd choose for my child comes in tbh. I think Lucifer is a bit different because most people are aware of that meaning but evidently from this thread a lot of people wouldn't immediately jump to negative connotations for Lilith. I think if you're not religious yourself it has absolutely no weight on the decision. I don't think the majority of people upon finding out your child's name rush to find out it's meaning either.
There's plenty of names out there that people may turn their noses up at,but it's their child their decision and as long as they love it who caresSmile

Kanaloa · 23/06/2022 16:18

EvelynParker · 23/06/2022 09:16

@Kanaloa

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. With the names children are being saddled with these days I can't imagine anyone would bat an eyelid at Lilith.

Agree to disagree I suppose. For me it seems silly to give your child a name that is so divisive. I prefer versatile names that will never invite awkwardness.

Kanaloa · 23/06/2022 16:17

tobi21 · 23/06/2022 09:10

@Kanaloa

If you are not of religious background why should it be an issue? It's just a name. The OPs situation is different if it could potentially stop her child being baptised, but from a non religious household like myself I don't see why my child couldn't have that name. Plenty of children have "out there" names these days are they all going to end up nowhere in life?
And for the record I don't like that name because it is "edgy" or "different" I like it because I think it's a pretty sounding name.

If you think it has a lovely sound call yourself Lilith. If you’re desperate for a similar sound call your child Lily Beth. It doesn’t matter if you aren’t a religious family, the name still has bad connotations. I’m not religious but I wouldn’t call my child Lucifer no matter how lovely it sounded.

17caterpillars1mouse · 23/06/2022 14:40

Lilith is a lovely name, though maybe not if she's going to have ultra religious grandparents, plus you run the risk of her becoming just another Lily. Dds middle name is Lillian rather than her first because of this, I love Lillian but dislike Lily.

I actually prefer Rebekah and think it would be really refreshing on a baby.

Good luck with the arrival of your little one :)

FrancescaJade1 · 23/06/2022 14:34

Emma, that has totally freaked me out. Hope I've not cursed her

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FrancescaJade1 · 23/06/2022 14:32

peaceinourtime...sorry, but there are TWO K's in Rebekkah, not 3. She is going to be called Rebekkah Grace.

Thinkingblonde - thank you, I still love the name Lilith, but not many people do.

Anyone would think I was calling her Luci. My surname starts with F, so Luci F...yeah, Lilith Luci F....not gonna though. I am actually a Christian, just why should the devil get the best names ??

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Firecat84 · 23/06/2022 14:01

I went to a very religious school but had never heard of Lilith until now. V much doubt the name would be an issue for her! She'll probably just get called Lily anyway.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/06/2022 12:34

It actually means "night monster". In mythology, Lilith is believed to be the devil who is responsible for miscarriages and stillbirths.

TheWayoftheLeaf · 23/06/2022 09:28

chocolatenutcase · 23/06/2022 09:09

I love the name and thought about it for my DD who's now 18. But the demonic meaning behind it put me off. I see my kids now looking up the meaning of their name and comparing. If your DD did that you might get the question "why did you call me that when it means this...." and even more so if they have a sibling with a name that means something lovely.

Lilith means 'belonging to the night' - hardly a terrible meaning

EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/06/2022 09:27

Well done for taking note and deciding against it OP.

One of my friends had a daughter who had a Lilith in her class at school. My friend wouldn't let her daughter go on a playdate there as she assumed the parents were Satanists! I do think the name has such negative connotations, I'm amazed anyone would choose it.