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Irish babynames 2021

92 replies

SeanChailleach · 25/02/2022 19:37

www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-ibn/irishbabiesnames2021/

Croía, Indie, Ted and Tadgh (that spelling) storming up the charts, looks like.

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KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 20:30

The mispronounced version will become mainstream.

The welsh names threads get heated. Usually someone claiming the same because they knew loads of people who pronounce it that way. Well they’re all wrong!

Not only do they get vowels and vowel combinations wrong, they get some consonants wrong too.

Sfumato · 27/02/2022 20:26

@FolkSongSweet

I’m from Belfast and don’t know any Tadhgs (or tadghs or anything else) - historically not a popular name here because “taig” (a derogatory term for catholics used by loyalists) is a version of Tadhg.

However, it wouldn’t surprise me if more are cropping up recently and there are people misspelling it and/or mispronouncing it given Irish isn’t compulsory here. Sorcha as Sorsha is a common mistake too.

Sorcha as Sore-shuh is another bugbear of mine!
Liv999 · 27/02/2022 20:17

My SIL and her husband just had a baby girl named Aoibheann pronounced ' Ay-veen' Hmm it grates on me every time I hear them say it but I'd never say anything Grin

FolkSongSweet · 27/02/2022 19:54

@Sfumato

It's the Aoibheann pronounced as 'Ay-veen' that makes me want to throw things.
Agreed! Drives me mad. Had an argument on a thread last year with various Irish people telling me it had to be Ayveen because they knew loads of people who pronounce it that way. Well they’re all wrong! 🤣
FolkSongSweet · 27/02/2022 19:53

Sorry - the above was a reply to @SeanChailleach

FolkSongSweet · 27/02/2022 19:52

I’m from Belfast and don’t know any Tadhgs (or tadghs or anything else) - historically not a popular name here because “taig” (a derogatory term for catholics used by loyalists) is a version of Tadhg.

However, it wouldn’t surprise me if more are cropping up recently and there are people misspelling it and/or mispronouncing it given Irish isn’t compulsory here. Sorcha as Sorsha is a common mistake too.

KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 19:49

You are welcome @Rockmehardplace

Rockmehardplace · 27/02/2022 19:44

[quote KirstenBlest]@Rockmehardplace, Laoise is pronounced Leesha[/quote]
Thank you!

KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 19:44

and Naoise is Neesha
and Aoife is Eefa

KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 19:43

@Rockmehardplace, Laoise is pronounced Leesha

Rockmehardplace · 27/02/2022 19:39

Laoise

Can anyone tell me how this is pronounced please?

Sfumato · 27/02/2022 17:34

It's the Aoibheann pronounced as 'Ay-veen' that makes me want to throw things.

LizzieAnt · 27/02/2022 16:09

Grin Seriously though, between the fada on Rían and the gh on Tadgh I think I need a cup of tea (or stronger)!Smile

KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 14:34

as in Harold be thy name?

SeanChailleach · 27/02/2022 14:32

The extraneous fada is an inevitable result of "our fada", and "in the name of the fada".

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KirstenBlest · 27/02/2022 14:17

@Dustyblue, Declan is a middle-aged sort of name in Ireland, and there are plenty of them just not many young ones
It's a nice name

There aren't many Jacks my age but lots of Johns and quite a few Jonathans known as Jon, but I lots of people I know have a Jack, Jake or Jacob

LizzieAnt · 27/02/2022 12:50

@mathanxiety

I see they've posted Rían with the fada - it's not necessary because you pronounce IA as EE-ah. You wouldn't have a fada on Liam.
Absolutely agree about Rian, no fada at least in modern Irish. Rhymes with Cian, which doesn't have a fada either. I guess people put in the fada because the name is associated with rí (king), but actually the name is so old its meaning isn't certain. In older Irish, Ríán (two fadas) was used, though I'm not completely certain if it's the same name. People often prefer to use older spellings, but why retain one fada and lose the other? Doesn't make any sense to me. The surname Ó Riain doesn't have a fada on either i or a.

Rían (plus fada) has just shot up the charts. There were 357 babies named Rían in 2021 and only 61 named Rian To contrast, in 2017 there were 257 babies called Rian (no fada), though this dropped to 65 the following year. Rían wasn't listed in 2017, but 193 were given the name in 2018. Where has the sudden love for the (totally unnecessary) fada of Rían come from?
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Liv999 · 27/02/2022 08:08

@Dustyblue

There are some truly beautiful names on those lists.

I have a Declan, was surprised not to see it mentioned.... is it not common in Ireland these days? We're in Australia and don't know any others yet, but I've a feeling it might take off.

Easy pronunciation at least!

No Declan would be considered one of the older type Irish names, I know a few Declans all in their 40s or 50s, same with Orla, seems to be popular in the UK right now but left the Irish top 100 a few years ago
Dustyblue · 27/02/2022 07:25

There are some truly beautiful names on those lists.

I have a Declan, was surprised not to see it mentioned.... is it not common in Ireland these days? We're in Australia and don't know any others yet, but I've a feeling it might take off.

Easy pronunciation at least!

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:07

Same goes for Fíadh...

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:04

I see they've posted Rían with the fada - it's not necessary because you pronounce IA as EE-ah. You wouldn't have a fada on Liam.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:01

I can understand Tadg too. I knew a Medb years ago.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:00

I hope it's not the registrars getting the spelling of Tadhg wrong.

The fact that anyone gets it wrong is worrying though.

Classica · 27/02/2022 00:52

When I was 12, about 30 years ago, my friend's baby brother was called Jack and everyone was 'woah, that's an auld fella's name!'. But it was clearly the start of a wave.

Interesting that names in Ireland don't change that much. Boys' names at least. I'm sure John was the No.1 name for a couple of decades too.

Joolsin · 27/02/2022 00:02

@Classica

It feels like Jack has been the no.1 boys' names for the past 20 years. Not even exaggerating.
I think it has. Although I don't know that many now. There were three in my late teens DS's class, and three Harrys too.