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'Dated' names

189 replies

ConstanceL · 20/01/2022 14:11

I often see on threads that people say don't use such and such name as it won't date well. But does it really matter if names are of their time? My (real) name was popular in the 80s, but not any more. But when I was little it was a popular name for little girls, and now I am heading towards middle age it is a name that many late 30s women have.

We are thinking about names for our next DC and I really like the name Aurelia, but I searched threads and a few people said 'it won't date well'. So I guess my question is, does that really matter? I've never had a problem with my 'dated' name - has anyone else?

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Leonthelobster · 25/01/2022 08:09

I’m one of the Emma/Sarah/Rachel/Helens of the 70s and 80s but since don’t feel our names have dated badly. They are less popular now but not jarring..

I’m one too but born in 1960 and I do know a few more recent ones too so I agree they’re harder to pin down datewise.

Leonthelobster · 25/01/2022 08:01

Mine isn’t dated in the strictest sense as it’s Biblical but there are just so many women with my name that it just sounds unimaginative and boring. I don’t mind too much as I was named after my maternal great grandmother who my late DM adored.

MimiDaisy11 · 25/01/2022 08:00

@Canceltheham

Names I can’t see ever being used again as they’re just too dated:

Lorraine
Beverley
Denise
Deborah
Yvonne

Nigel
Derek
Gary
Wayne
Dean

“ever being used again”

Maybe in the foreseeable future but “ever again” is extreme 😂
My parents see names like Violet as so old fashioned and are surprised they’re back in popularity. So you never know how such names will sound to future generations.

ConstanceL · 25/01/2022 07:56

@Canceltheham

Names I can’t see ever being used again as they’re just too dated:

Lorraine
Beverley
Denise
Deborah
Yvonne

Nigel
Derek
Gary
Wayne
Dean

The brother of one of DC's nursery friends is called Dean! He must be around 5 or 6. One of the parents is Australian, so maybe it's still popular there.
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Spanglemum · 24/01/2022 23:11

I am in my 50s and remember thinking that the boy at school that changed his name/used his middle name from Charlie to Ian was very sensible. I couldn't imagine that name on a 10 yr old.
We do live in more diverse societies now so there are more names to chose from.

PartyOnKale · 24/01/2022 23:00

Deborah will come back I think.

cafedesreves · 24/01/2022 22:33

@Canceltheham

Names I can’t see ever being used again as they’re just too dated:

Lorraine
Beverley
Denise
Deborah
Yvonne

Nigel
Derek
Gary
Wayne
Dean

I have a soft spot for Debbie!
Canceltheham · 24/01/2022 20:58

Names I can’t see ever being used again as they’re just too dated:

Lorraine
Beverley
Denise
Deborah
Yvonne

Nigel
Derek
Gary
Wayne
Dean

SummaLuvin · 24/01/2022 20:42

Fair enough. I forgot about the abdication meaning she wasn’t direct line. But also worth remembering what we consider major and minor royals now differs greatly to 90 years ago. The royal family has had to trim the edges to fit what is acceptable to modern day Britain, historically a larger amount of core royals was fine.

I’m not suggesting Margaret hadn’t been popular, simply that it isn’t timeless, which you seem to agree with. I just don’t think the royal family can be used as an example of timeless names as there are too many “except for”, the queen children alone have a 1 of 4 timeless hit rate, 2 of 4 if you include Charles as timeless (it’s on the edge for me).

KirstenBlest · 24/01/2022 20:26

Margaret was the top girl's name for decades, and only dropped out of the top 100 in the 1960s

KirstenBlest · 24/01/2022 20:16

@SummaLuvin, she was the daughter of a king but when she was named she wasn't.

She was the daughter of the king's 2nd eldest son. Margaret was 5 her uncle became king. George VI didn't become king until December 1936, when Margaret was 6.

Margaret was very popular for decades, and names drop out of favour when people know many with the name. There weren't many Margarets my age because everyone seemed to have a mum or nan or aunt with he name.

I had two aunts called Margaret but they went by different nicknames, and lots of girls at school had Margaret as a middle name.

I had a dog called Peggy

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 24/01/2022 20:05

She was a fairly minor royal at her birth - her father was the younger son and in 1930 it was still fully expected that the line would go through the Prince of Wales, later Edward VIII. She was the equivalent of Beatrice or Eugenie in modern terms.

SummaLuvin · 24/01/2022 19:56

You could argue that Margaret is back, it might be my personal dislike of getting in the way there. But for a name to be 'back in' it has to first go out, showing it is not timeless name and does date. I went to school with a Margaret and it was considered hideously old fashioned then, which to be fair was 15-20 years ago.

She was never in line to the throne but your previous criteria was "kings and queens and their children" - she is the daughter of a King. As the only other sibling of Elizabeth she would have been considered very important to succession at the point of her birth - incase some tragedy ended Elizabeths life early, or she chose abdicated. She would not have been classes as a 'minor' royal.

KirstenBlest · 24/01/2022 19:40

Margaret is back in.

Margot, Maggie, Peggy, Daisy are forms of Margaret.

Princess Marg was named when she wasn't in direct line to the throne. Her grandfather was the king, and her father was 2nd in line, and wasn't expecting to be king one day

She also had the current go to girl's middle name

SummaLuvin · 24/01/2022 19:24

Even looking at the Monarch/next in line and their kids there is no guarantee of timelessness, they choose classic names, but that's not the same thing.

William and Harry (Henry) - both timeless, maybe not Harry, but Henry is.
Charles, Anne, Edward, and Andrew - Edward timeless, the other three dated.
Elizabeth, Margaret - Elizabeth timeless, Margaret is dated.

KirstenBlest · 24/01/2022 19:02

@ConstanceL, they are minor royals. I meant kings and queens and their children, not great grand-children. Harry Sussex and Andrew York's children can be excluded for this purpose

MimiDaisy11 · 24/01/2022 18:44

I like my name but it does signal to people what age I likely am. Annoyingly as well I was just at the end of the trend so most women with the name are about 10 years older.

KitchenMandarin · 24/01/2022 18:35

My first and middle name have both been mentioned, and I didn't have to scroll very far 🙈
I hate my name, I don't know what my mum was thinking. I actually get embarrassed to say it aloud! Blush

ConstanceL · 24/01/2022 18:28

@KirstenBlest

Biblical names do become dated but a core of them either stay current or a form of the name will. My contemporaries had NT names but now boys have OT names

John went out of favour but Jack became popular.
Mary went out but Marie became popular
etc

I'd say Royal family and Shakespeare is a fairly safe guide

Don't know about the royal family - Mia, Savannah, Sienna, Isla, Archie, Louis all seem very 'now' and trendy to me!
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KirstenBlest · 24/01/2022 13:44

Biblical names do become dated but a core of them either stay current or a form of the name will. My contemporaries had NT names but now boys have OT names

John went out of favour but Jack became popular.
Mary went out but Marie became popular
etc

I'd say Royal family and Shakespeare is a fairly safe guide

upaladderagain · 24/01/2022 12:57

I think if you want to avoid names that will date, from Edna to Kayden, you can't do better than go Biblical or Shakespearean.

ValerieCupcake · 24/01/2022 11:42

[quote lhirault]@Comedycook As someone approaching 60 (and with a very dated 60s name) I can assure you that Maureen is more likely to be in her mid 70s than 60. It would have been considered very old fashioned when I was born (early 60s). [/quote]
And @NotAnotherHelen - my old college friendship group is still going strong. There is Maureen (yes!) Liz, Helen, Juliet and me.

finallychangedmyusername · 23/01/2022 20:07

I dislike my dated name. It's not a classic name that happened to be very popular during a certain period, which I feel is the main difference.

So Laura, Claire, Sarah, Rebecca, Louise, Rachel may be considered "80s/90s names", yet are classic IMO. Ditto Margaret, Susan, Deborah for the 50s/60s. Or Chloe, Jessica, Sophie, Isobel, Lily for the 2000s.

PartyOnKale · 23/01/2022 19:55

Louisa is a lovely name too.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/01/2022 18:35

My DD is Louisa. I'm actually wondering if it will have a revival with it apparently being a very popular character in the latest Disney film as a strong female character.