Baby name Oilibhear?

The replies to this post have been nothing but complete rubbish from completely ignorant commenters.

The name Oliver doesn't come from the English language. Nor does many other names the uneducated people in this thread would see as being "English"...

St.Oliver Plunkett is one of the most famous saints and it's not like the English language has a monoply on the name Oliver...

Irish names are wonderful. Have confidence. If you have French/Italian/Indian/African heritage in the UK you can give them a difficult to spell name...why does Irish names get these commenters so worked up?

Classic anti-Irish prejudice from small-minded warm-beer drinking brexiteers.

There is nothing pretentious about Oliver or Oilibhear.

People have to learn how to pronounce new names all the time and failing to do so is narrow minded.
I think it is a name he would spend his lifetime spelling out though.

One of my DC has a name people seem to have difficulty with. I wouldn’t choose that name again if I knew others would repeatedly call and spell it incorrectly.

I'm Irish, I could pronounce I think, but you sounded it out so maybe I cheated! If that came through on an email I wouldn't have a notion. Never heard of that name being used either, unless I am mishearing Oliver.

Oisín, though I think is lovely.

There are sooooo many beautiful Irish names
Pick another one

Oisin is a lovely name, I think the nicer of the two. Although people in some parts of the uk will be more familiar with the Welsh spelling and pronunciation Osian (Oh - like hot, Shan is how I’ve heard it), but that’s also a lovely name!

Having read the above I prefer Amhlaoibh.

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OILIBHÉAR, genitive -éir, Oliver; almost certainly a Gallicised form of the Norse Ólafr or Óleifr, ancestor's relic (see Amhlaoibhh); a name introduced into Ireland by the Anglo-Normans and once fairly common, until its association with Cromwelll made it unpopular. With the beatification of Blessed Oliver Plunkett_ it is likely to be revived. Latin — Oliverus, Oliverius.

I think if you're going for an Irish name you're better off avoiding one that sounds almost but not quite like a name commonly found in the UK. Then they won't have to endure a lifetime of 'you mean Oliver?' 'oh is it the French version of Oliver?' etc. etc.

At least with Oisín it's not going to be mistaken for something else. It stands out as being a unique (in a good way!) name.

Tbh people calling Eoghan Eggnog are the ignorant ones, not a problem with a lovely name, and the nicest spelling imo, on that one.
Oisín is lovely OP.

Its used more when somebody is translating their English name into Irish e.g. in a classroom environment.
Yes, that is what makes it fake pretentious.

Awful

Even in Ireland, the anglicised spelling Oliver is the version pretty much always used. I've literally never come across anyone using the Irish spelling.

Oisín is fine, but it does need that fada or it would be pronounced more like 'ocean' than the correct 'uh-SHEEN'.

I wouldn't use it even if living IN Ireland tbh.

OP, I much prefer Oisín from your two potential names.

I like it!
If I'd had another son I'd have called him Oisín. Irish names are back big time now so he won't be unusual if you're in Ireland and there's no reason why British people can't leanrn to pronounce them once told how! I've only a few phrases of Irish but even I have an idea of how certain letter combinations sound, such as "bh" being pronounced like "v". Irish sticks to it's own rules, unlike English (:-

@thadhiya that reminds me, at work, a non irish colleague had a correspondence from a mr "malearchaidh" and my colleague asked me how to pronounce it. My first reaction was to laugh. I thought it was a joke. To my understanding that is Malarkey. 😵

I guessed that it was basically Oliver (not Irish, live in Ireland, but struggle with reading Irish - the kids have to help each other with their homework as I'm useless!)

I've not seen it here, I'm not sure what the advantage is of using an Irish spelling of a not particularly Irish name. Although having said that, I know an Eoin, which took me a couple of runs at to realise it was basically Owen, and I prefer the Irish spelling now.

I have a difficult to spell second name (entirely foreign), and I don't mind having to spell it over the phone personally, so I wouldn't use that as a reason not to use it, just that, well, it's a bit tortured, and will definitely have people rolling their eyes.

I think (open to correction here) that Ush-een is the more widely used pronunciation of Oisín in Ireland, though in the north of the country it is said more like Osh-een Tal45. The Oh-sheen pronunciation always confuses me a bit as I'd expect the spelling to be Óisín then, not Oisín.

forvo.com/word/ois%C3%ADn/

I love the proper pronunciation but I'd think it was Oli bear (still pretty damn cute!). I would also as a pp said think it was French. Love it though, sounds posh and grown up without being pretentious.
With Oisin I'm not keen on Uh-sheen much prefer Oh-sheen.

On the plus side, none of his future schoolmates will be aware of Officer Crabtree

I think the related Welsh name Osian is pronounced as you say PussyCatEatingPigsInBlankets?
I'm not Welsh though and know nothing about racing either unfortunately