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Genuinely problematic names

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AuntDympna · 14/11/2021 11:50

Starting this thread for names which are genuinely problematic.
The purpose is, a quick reference for people to check is the name they are thinking of on the list, and also as a reference for justifiable reasons to advise against using a name.
To be included, there needs to already be a thread on the name, where the case against it was made clearly.

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whatausername · 13/12/2021 21:30

@creamcakescreamcakes

Why is Randy unacceptable in the UK?
Because he wants to cream all over your cakes.

Sorry 😂 Randy means horny.

creamcakescreamcakes · 13/12/2021 20:43

Why is Randy unacceptable in the UK?

Edenember · 13/12/2021 12:57

@AlphabetAerobics was that aimed at me? I was agreeing with you.

Stiffcondomhat · 12/12/2021 08:10

@CatsArePeople

Hayley. What is even the correct spelling?
Er, Hayley? Well done, you got it right.
Chunkymenrock · 12/12/2021 07:35

@AuntDympna

The name Amelia doesn't mean limbless. It's a name that happens to be spelt the same as another word. Amelia sounds like friend "ami", honey "miel".

Diseases like Addison's are literally named after people, not the other way around. (Some people say diseases shouldn't be named after people anyway.)

Pretending that Wayne Kerr, or Joby sound rude is silly, you have to change the vowel. It's like reversing the letters. It's bullying to do that.

A name which is associated with a terrible event, which younger parents might not know about, could be upsetting. The Enola thread had a lengthy discussion about people not even knowing what happened at Hiroshima.

Separating out the seriously awkward names is absolutely the point of this thread, because people say you can't call your child Aloysius" or "Seven" or "Mildred" bc those are pretentious or tryhard or old ladyish, all of which pale into insignificance next to Enola. This thread is about figuring out what is a real problem, and what is just personal taste.

Op, amelia is the correct medical term and means 'absence of limbs.' I also cannot understand how people do not hear the godawful 'mealy' sound in it. Mealy is a revolting word with negative connotations. The name is basically 'a-mealy-a'.
Words · 12/12/2021 07:27

I thought Ava was problematic (Eva Braun) as well as Jude ( the obscure, and other unfortunate connotations); and that neither would catch on. How wrong I was.

musicalfrog · 12/12/2021 07:16

I think naming storms and hurricanes after humans makes some names potentially problematic. It's a stupid idea imo and inevitably connects innocent people with tragedy.

See Katrina as one example.

DropYourSword · 12/12/2021 07:13

@Dontcallmejacqui I didn’t know about Amelia, but I do know someone called Athelia and was told it meant born with no nipples!

AlphabetAerobics · 12/12/2021 06:48

Of course he wasn’t bullied. And before you start sneering at “little englanders” - this was at my office. In Germany itself. Hmm

Of course it’s shocking/jarring/whatever you want to call it.

The man himself was of course very nice and extremely knowledgeable about his specialism - but still I just couldn’t quite bring myself to embrace his name.

CatsArePeople · 11/12/2021 09:39

Hayley. What is even the correct spelling?

JojobaFromOctober · 10/12/2021 23:29

Abigail, meaning lady's maid. They say it's archaic but it's used in Jane Eyre

Oh yeah that contemporary novel Jane Eyre. And of course since there are so many lady's maids around still, that would be really embarrassing rather than a little piece of historical trivia.

You might not personally like the reference but it is absurd to say that it's problematic. People are just as likely to know the actual Hebrew meaning 'father's joy', which is quite nice. What's even wrong with being a lady's maid anyway?

Edenember · 05/12/2021 19:28

Nah, I think most people would have to suppress a completely involuntary shock reaction at that name. If they then went on to bully him about it, that’s different. But I don’t think anyone would be above a natural surprise reaction on being introduced that they’ll then try to politely mask. And unfortunately he’ll get that everywhere and sense that happening. No it’s not his fault.

LonginesPrime · 05/12/2021 18:48

@AlphabetAerobics

I worked with an Adolf. He was German and born a few years after WWII ended.

When he introduced himself there was an enormous clatter as assembled jaws hit the ground - and then total silence.

What on Earth were his parents thinking?

Probably that he would never go to work at a place full of arseholes?

What an awful way to treat someone for something he hasn't even done.

MyCatHatesWhiskas · 05/12/2021 18:01

In addition to names to avoid, there’s also names to be mindful of. Like Pippa - it’s a lovely name but I’m aware it is slang for penis in some European languages (or at least Italian). Not a name that travels well. Now, if you’re a British family with no overseas relatives - fine. If you’re a family who live more internationally, you might at least want to be aware of that before making your choice.

BiscuitLover3679 · 05/12/2021 17:50

This is a bit of an odd thread! It's all very subjective. Why are you linking other threads?
I dont think you're going to get the kind of thread you're hoping for op.

Srettel · 05/12/2021 16:49

The way she was saying it sounded like Sharn. The way Sian is pronounced here doesn't sound like Sharn.

She and her parents and siblings had to learn to pronounce her name differently, because it just doesn't work here the way they pronounced it.

It wasn't a bullying issue, even well-meaning adults couldn't figure out why her name was "farmyard manure." It had to spelled out for people to realise her name was Sian.

AuntDympna · 05/12/2021 16:18

Srettel that is very useful but you are going to have to explain again the difference between Sharn and Shaan. In SE England those two spellings would get said the same. Was the girl saying her name with an r?

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Srettel · 05/12/2021 16:10

It depends on accent, as well. A perfectly acceptable name might not work in a different part of the country.

A girl named Sian started school up here (Scotland) . Locally Sian would be pronounced Shaan. She pronounced her name Sharn. Sharn is farmyard manure. Kids were going home and telling their parents that there was new girl called Sharn. Parents were contacting the teacher to ask what the new girl's name really was.

She had to be coached to pronounce her name as it is normally pronounced up here, because pronouncing it Sharn was just awful. It wasn't even as though she was being bullied - people were just asking her to repeat her name, or spell it out, because they were incredulous when they heard it the way she said it.

But Sian is a perfectly good name.

Edenember · 05/12/2021 14:45

I’ll add that there’s never any need for nastiness and there are ways of saying things. But an adult is equipped to deal with a momentary pang of hurt feelings over criticism of their prospective name choice and get over it. A child is not equipped to deal with a lifetime of raised eyebrows, stifled or overt giggles, teasing and potential actual bullying.

Edenember · 05/12/2021 14:40

I think discussion of names prior to naming a baby is primarily about the child who has to wear it, and secondarily about avoiding the name regret described above. You can’t have name regret until you’ve committed. I personally think it’s cruel not to point these things out to people before they have committed - again, primarily for the child. Soon-to-be parents can then do with that info what they want, deciding which associations are relevant and irrelevant to them.

AuntDympna · 04/12/2021 19:59

@InvisibleDragon that's a good point.

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AlphabetAerobics · 04/12/2021 18:42

I worked with an Adolf. He was German and born a few years after WWII ended.

When he introduced himself there was an enormous clatter as assembled jaws hit the ground - and then total silence.

What on Earth were his parents thinking?

InvisibleDragon · 04/12/2021 18:25

I think another category is names that sound like a common word / pronoun in a language that your child will use.

I've worked with someone called "Yu" and we ended up often referring to him by his name + surname to avoid confusion.

Similarly, I have a relative called "Anna," which is fine in English but causes difficulties for my Arabic speaking in-laws as "Ana" means "I".

Obviously you can't comb through every language in the world for potential issues and both of these examples are ones that couldn't have been foreseen. But I think if you know that your children are likely to speak a certain language that it's a good idea to check for potential issues with your choice of name!

hotmeatymilk · 04/12/2021 17:12

Having spent the past 10 minutes muttering “Peony’s, Peony’s” and not got anywhere near “penis”, I’m adding Peony to my list of potential names

AuntDympna · 04/12/2021 16:58

@Vapeyvapevape I changed my mind. My post from 2 Dec includes all names that sound like rude words, in any accent.
The thread is intended to be the antidote to thoughtless comments about names. Some of us have suffered severe name regret due to friends or family jeering and sneering because they think a name is unsophisticated or pretentious.
It's more about the way we talk about names than coming up with a list, although examples help.

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