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Will Elizabeth rocket up the charts...

88 replies

IAmFourEels · 06/11/2021 09:35

... when the queen dies?

Slightly macabre thought, but Elizabeth is on our list of names - one of DH's top choices. I quite like it, but had always dreamed of giving my child a more unusual name, because my name is unusual and I love it. Elizabeth is currently no.56 in the charts, which I can live with (it is his baby too, after all, so I have to take his preferences into account!) but I'm worried it might have a surge in popularity in the next few years... if not sooner... Confused

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CaptainMyCaptain · 07/11/2021 10:02

I thought there might be a surge in Dianas when she died but there wasn't.

Kanaloa · 07/11/2021 09:59

I like Elizabeth, it’s a strong and classic name, but it isn’t unusual. It’s a relatively popular name. I think there is a middle ground between the common place Elizabeth and the very unusual Zora though, where there are less used but not very unusual names. Can’t think of any off the top of my head though!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/11/2021 09:57

the fashionable girls names these days most commonly end in an "ah" or "ee" sound and/or are vowel heavy and often the short two syllable type as well (Mia, Maya, Molly, Millie, Mila, Isla, Ivy, Ava, Ayla, Ada, Lily, Lyra, Lyla, Luna, Lola, Eva, Evie, Elsie, Ellie, Ella...).

I really don't like that trend. My hunch is those names will be the Sharon and Tracy equivalents for that generation.

VincaMinor · 06/11/2021 18:17

I love the Russian version, Elizaveta. I also like Eliza

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 06/11/2021 18:14

Elizabeth is the most classic/timeless girls name in England (not sure about Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland) - as far as I can tell it hasn't left the top 100 since they started keeping written records in the 1300's! She'll have some amazing historical namesakes...

Yes, this means there are a fair few about of all ages - but it's still not as well used as the boys timeless ones (Thomas, James, William etc), so even once she's working age and mixing more with other generations it would be unusual for her to meet that many, let alone when she's school age. Plus of course many will be known be a nn or variation of Elizabeth - it's the name that has the most choices (over 2 dozen when I last counted!).

I think when the Queen dies it might rise slightly in popularity for a couple of years - but I would be extremely surprised if it reaches top 20. It's length and style means it shouldn't get very popular as the fashionable girls names these days most commonly end in an "ah" or "ee" sound and/or are vowel heavy and often the short two syllable type as well (Mia, Maya, Molly, Millie, Mila, Isla, Ivy, Ava, Ayla, Ada, Lily, Lyra, Lyla, Luna, Lola, Eva, Evie, Elsie, Ellie, Ella...).

AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 06/11/2021 16:20

I love Elizabeth; it's strong and classic and won't date and sound naff in 10 years. I have a classic 1970s name and there were 4 in my class at primary school so I was always known as my name with the first letter of my surname added on, it was so annoying.

CatkinToadflax · 06/11/2021 16:19

It’s my name. I don’t particularly like it and I never, ever use the full version because it feels so long and formal. However I do like that it’s classic and pretty much timeless. No-one would see my name written down and be able to ‘age’ me immediately just from my name. My brother has a typical 1960s-70s name that indicates his age pretty much instantly!

cowburp · 06/11/2021 16:19

Yeah probably will

Onlinedilema · 06/11/2021 16:12

The point is you can never tell. It might increase in popularity but I imagine most new mothers are not that influenced by the Queen. Far more likely to be influenced by the latest z list celebrity or next TV sensation.
Elizabeth is a timeless classic like James.
It will wane in and out of the popularity stakes.
It isn't a name like Aurora or Raine which although uncommon in one sense can easily become very common in the other sense I f the word when they are popular for a very short period of time.
Rather than trying to second guess which names will be popular, and you never can tell, as who knows what name a celeb will choose or what name an author will give a character, choose a name you like.
Fwiw I much prefer your husbands choice than yours.

Bluebellbike · 06/11/2021 15:04

My 2 daughters Katie and Elizabeth. DS is James Michael. I like classic names but didn't fancy Katherine so DD1 is Katie.

CruCru · 06/11/2021 14:58

I love the name Elizabeth (I was torn between that and the name we actually went with for our daughter). How do you feel about the nickname Liz? I used to work with an Elizabeth who hated being called Liz but loads of people still called her it.

IAmFourEels · 06/11/2021 14:55

@holidaynearlyover

I think OP *@IAmFourEels* is saying she wants unusual but her partner wants Elizabeth. As Elizabeth is low on the charts she is happy to compromise but wouldn't be happy if it rocketed to no.1!
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying! And it would be a big compromise - Thomasina and Zora (as in the author Zora Neale Hurston) were some of the names he vetoed, to give you an idea of where my tastes lie.

I think the point about the wide range of nickname options is quite reassuring, if she does find herself in a class/work situation with another Elizabeth.

We know an Elizabeth in her 70s, one in her 40s, one in her 30s and one in her 20s, so would never be unusual, even if it were uncommon in her age group, and that would always irk me a bit, but I agree it is a lovely name and maybe I just need to get over myself.

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tiredanddangerous · 06/11/2021 14:54

I would say so.

It's not particularly rare to meet an Elizabeth anyway. I work in a secondary school and there's a couple in most year groups. Timeless classic.

35andThriving · 06/11/2021 13:44

Yes, I think it will.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2021 13:10

I don't care for Liz as a name either, but it's perfectly possible to insist on the full name being used. That's what I've done all my life (another classic name with a great many short versions and nicknames) and my daughter did the same (with her own classic name).

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2021 13:08

E, K, A, M for me!

I feel Elizabeth has held up in popularity much better than Mary or Ann/Anne. Katherine/Catherine/Katharine harder to judge as there are more spelling possibilities (the -ryn endings as well). Nowadays I think more people go for Kate or Katie than the full long name. Anna more popular than Anne/Ann.

HeronLanyon · 06/11/2021 13:03

gaspode - agree - those are the four absolute classics to my mind. Like all of them hugely.
C then E then A then M I think.

Strawbales · 06/11/2021 13:02

I don’t know many Elizabeth’s in this age range though which I think is what OP means.

I’m not a massive fan, mainly because I hate Liz, but I don’t think it’s popular in the same way that names like Lily and Ruby and Ellie have been in the last few years.

EastWestWhosBest · 06/11/2021 13:01

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

How the heck is Elizabeth an unusual name?
I don’t know one under 40. They will be the only one in their year at school.
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2021 13:00

@HeronLanyon

Always thought Elizabeth is the ultimate classic name - I always think of Elizabeth 1 rather than our current queen for some reason. Catherine/Katherine a very close second in ‘classic’ terms.
Agree. I suppose the other claimants are Ann/Anne and Mary.
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2021 12:59

[quote MerryMarigold]@teenminustests, you forgot Libby![/quote]
Also: Bess, Bessie, Lisbeth, Bette, Betsey. Related names: Lisa, Elspeth, Elise.

Alternate spelling: Elisabeth.

There's also Lillibet, her own pet name, now given to Harry and Megan's baby. Too babyish for me, but each to their own.

HeronLanyon · 06/11/2021 12:58

Always thought Elizabeth is the ultimate classic name - I always think of Elizabeth 1 rather than our current queen for some reason. Catherine/Katherine a very close second in ‘classic’ terms.

holidaynearlyover · 06/11/2021 12:55

I think OP @IAmFourEels is saying she wants unusual but her partner wants Elizabeth. As Elizabeth is low on the charts she is happy to compromise but wouldn't be happy if it rocketed to no.1!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2021 12:55

It's always been a popular name. I don't know if it's ever been #1 but in some years it's been in the top 10, other times as now it's lower down, but I'd be surprised to learn it's ever been out of the top 100 girls' names since records began.

As to whether it will see a surge in popularity when the Queen dies, who can say? Did George have a surge in 1952 when her father died? Did Victoria have a surge in 1901?

MerryMarigold · 06/11/2021 12:54

@teenminustests, you forgot Libby!

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