Help protect children from gaming harms.

Take our survey

Please or to access all these features

Baby names

Find baby name inspiration and advice on the Mumsnet Baby Names forum.

Will Elizabeth rocket up the charts...

88 replies

IAmFourEels · 06/11/2021 09:35

... when the queen dies?

Slightly macabre thought, but Elizabeth is on our list of names - one of DH's top choices. I quite like it, but had always dreamed of giving my child a more unusual name, because my name is unusual and I love it. Elizabeth is currently no.56 in the charts, which I can live with (it is his baby too, after all, so I have to take his preferences into account!) but I'm worried it might have a surge in popularity in the next few years... if not sooner... Confused

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/11/2021 14:19

Yes, I think most of us could have a good go at putting the following in order of age:

Christine
Kerry
Lisa
Doreen
Julie
Harper

Elizabeth, Anne, Katherine and Mary could be any age.

thewhatsit · 08/11/2021 13:31

@Glassofshloer I also disagree with this. Just because names that were popular 80-100 years a go are “back” doesn’t mean you can’t pretty accurately guess how old a Nigel, Angela and Gary are.
A Mabel is likely to be an old woman or a 5 year old girl.
There are some very clear current trends for cutesy and twee names and for vowel heavy girls names like Evie / Eva / Ava etc and that trend will end inevitably. I do genuinely think that in 2045 you will see a job application from Alfie or Evie and know they are around 25-30 years old.

It’s not about making you seem younger but just, I mean at work when you get an email from a Nigel you can pretty much guarantee he is approaching retirement age. The whole (sexist and ageist) point of the “Karen” thing is that Karen represents a late middle aged woman and apparently 55 year old women are apparently ok to make fun of.

KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 12:14

@Glassofshloer, I'm not saying it makes you younger but some names date badly

An acquaintance has a DD called Shannon and the name firmly puts her in an age group, and you can guess her age as the name became very popular for only a few years.

Karen is another one. It says 'born in the 1960s'.

A name like Oliver or Tom doesn't say middle aged or 20-24.

dangerrabbit · 08/11/2021 11:40

Having a common name can also be an advantage in the internet age as more difficult to find on social media

Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 11:32

@KirstenBlest

I like them and dull is better than dated. I have a classic name and it seemed dull compared to the Traceys, Michelles , Lynseys and Karens I was at school with.

My name is popular again now.

I’m not sure names really do date anymore - I know so many baby Franks, Mabels etc and before you know it the 70s/80s names will come back. A classic name won’t actually make you younger so this argument confuses me!
KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 11:30

I like them and dull is better than dated.
I have a classic name and it seemed dull compared to the Traceys, Michelles , Lynseys and Karens I was at school with.

My name is popular again now.

Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 11:23

Not a fan of ‘classic’ names as I find them dull. I have one and it’s awful.

KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 11:21

I only know one little Elizabeth and she gets called Lizzie
I know lots of little Isabel(le/a)s

thewhatsit · 08/11/2021 11:18

@Courtier

You want unusual but are considering Elizabeth? It will never be unusual...
I suppose by unusual the OP just doesn’t want her DD to be one of a few in a class and at every club or extra curricular she joins (I know friends with an Evie who say that there is almost always another Evie everywhere they go) ..? In which case Elizabeth is perfect but as it’s also classic and always been at least moderately popular you get the best of both worlds -
  • Everyone knows how to spell and pronounce it, it’s not a controversial youneek name
  • No one will ever be able to guess how old your DD is or make any assumptions on the name. An Elizabeth could easily be 2 years old, 42 or 82.
  • Despite this, she’ll probably be the only Elizabeth at nursery, in her school class etc.
TheLadyhasarrived · 08/11/2021 10:34

The name Elizabeth makes me taste jam Confused like the sticky jam that’s in Jamie dodgers.

cobblers123 · 08/11/2021 10:26

Elizabeth is my middle name and I really didn't like it until fairly recently.

Over 60 years later, I so wish my parents had called me Elizabeth rather than the name I do have, although one of their choices was Karen and seeing how that name has been hijacked and become something sneeringly used to put down women, I am glad they didn't call me that.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 08/11/2021 10:17

you could always go with Lilibet Wink

MrsLargeEmbodied · 08/11/2021 10:16

i know of a 2 year old elizabeth

MrsLargeEmbodied · 08/11/2021 10:14

i dont think so

KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 10:12

Usually one form is popular at a time.
In my grandparents' age group it was Elsie or Bessie, parents' age group it was Betty, then Liz, in my age group Lisa, then Beth, then Isabelle/a, then Eliza, Libby and Elsie

KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 09:50

Also Isabel, Isabelle, Isobel, Ishbel, Isabella, Elisabeth, Elisabet, Lisaveta
Lisabetta, Leusa, Lusa, Liesl...

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 08/11/2021 09:30

for DD we use her full name.

she has family nicknames though, none are related to her name.
although when she & DS6 play horses he has to call her Bessie🤣

FriedasCarLoad · 08/11/2021 09:13

Beautiful classic name that won't date and has lots of potential variants. I think it unlikely that it'll surge in popularity when the Queen dies. It doesn't tend to happen with deaths.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/11/2021 09:06

….her Libby….

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/11/2021 09:06

Ds would have been a 25 year old Elizabeth. We would have called him Libby. I still like it.

I think with Elizabeth you have to consider the nicknames and whether you like them, particularly Liz.

KirstenBlest · 08/11/2021 09:02

@TeenMinusTests

The thing with Elizabeth is there are so many nicknames, that even if she is in a class with another it is so easy to avoid them both being the same name. I only know 1 Elizabeth who uses the full name.

Liz, Lizzy, Beth, Bet, Betty, Eliza, Liza

Lisa Elsa Elsie Betsy Libby Lily Bess Bethan Bettina Elspeth
PeachesPumpkin · 07/11/2021 15:25

Elspeth

Lemonsyellow · 07/11/2021 10:23

I think Elizabeth has been gaining in popularity for a few years. I know Elizabeths of every decade, but quite a few in their 20s down to babyhood.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 07/11/2021 10:18

maybe

I wanted Elizabeth since forever. nothing to do with the Queen, just loved it.
had 5 boys before I could use it when DD was born in 2012 and I was a bit concerned the name might get suddenly overused because of the Queen's jubilee and that people would assume there was a connection for us.
but I can't say that in the 9 years since we've even met another Elizabeth that's DD age (or even older) through school.
the only I met was a baby at a craft show, a year younger than DD, born in the same month and had the same middle name too!
that's it.
we don't know anyone else!

Would people of childbearing age and especially younger generations be such hardcore royalists they'd name their kid after a dead Queen?
I don't see that. maybe as a middle name.

go for it OP.

Mischance · 07/11/2021 10:08

We called one of our children Elizabeth - but we never actually called her that. We chose it because we knew it would give her the chance to pick any of the shortened versions for the name she wanted to use.

A poster above has pointed out all the possible shortened versions. So even if the queen does not do the decent thing but lives for ever, and their is a surge in the name's popularity, there are lots of choices within it.

Swipe left for the next trending thread