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Short name for a trilingual kid

217 replies

BigHedgehog · 05/08/2021 10:46

Dear mums, it's the first time I am writing here, but I read this forum quite a lot before :)
We are getting a second baby soon, and we won't know the gender until birth, so I am preparing two sets of names.
We would like a short first name (3-5 letters maximum), but to make it more complicated, it should sound well and have no negative associations in 3 languages.
I am Russian, my husband is German and we have lived in England for the past 7 years and are planning to stay for at least a few more. We have filtered out quite a few names based on our knowledge of German and Russian culture, however I would be grateful for advice from native British mums. For example, after having read through some threads here, I realised that Kai and Ian are not widely accepted in the UK.
Ok, to cut it short, we came up with the following names and I would like to hear your opinions or suggestions.
Important: it's not really about personal opinions on the name itself - we all have our tastes. It's more about cultural acceptance and country associations I may not be aware of. Also, the name may sound exotic in one of the languages, but still sound pleasant. Thank you!

For girls, we are thinking about Liv (as a full name) or Zoe.
The middle name will be Anastasia (connected to a family situation)
I am not up for Olivia, but my concern is that there are many baby Olivias nowadays whose names are probably shortened to Liv?

For boys, we are considering Elias or Jan. Middle name is still to be chosen. Maybe Theodor.
I am not sure if Jan will always be pronunciation correctly (/Yan/), and Elias seems to be getting too popular in Germany (my concern), but not so in the UK.

Whay do you think about these 4: Liv - Zoe, Elias - Jan? Any other suggestions?
Please be mindful with "I like / I don't like" as you may hurt someone's feelings. Again, it's more about general cultural acceptance.

Many thanks!

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CormoranStrike · 17/11/2021 20:58

Max
Alex

garlictwist · 17/11/2021 20:37

I work with a bloke called Janne. I spent six months thinking he was a woman until I met him

I think Jan would suffer a similar fate.

BiscuitLover09876 · 17/11/2021 20:09

Elias works well for all as does Zoe.
Liv looks like a nickname.

SallyWD · 17/11/2021 14:46

What about Lena for a girl? It seems to be one of those international names. I love it.

Luredbyapomegranate · 16/11/2021 22:11

Anna? Helena? (Sophia also but a lot of them)

I like Zoe

I like Liv as a nn, but as a full name it's Scandie isn't it?? (pronounced Leev??) so if you want it said Liv I think better to call her Olivia or Livia as a full name. But there are an awful lot of them..

Jan will be assumed to be a 65 year old woman, Ian a 50 year old man. Elias sounds very off the moment - I like it!

LowlandLucky · 16/11/2021 08:40

Ross, Logan, John
Rose, Bella. Ada

MerryChristmasToYou · 15/11/2021 12:40

Ian is a middle-aged man's name
Jan will be assumed to be Janet, Janette or Janice, not Yann
Elias presumably will be El-ee-as, but will be assumed to be El-eye-us in the UK
Liv will be assumed to be Olivia or Livia
Zoe should be ok

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pantherrose · 18/08/2021 12:03

What about Ivan for a boy?

User260486 · 18/08/2021 06:18

I know many trilingual families with similar requirements (russian/ (german/french/italian)/ english
For boys the most popular seem to be:
Max (Maxim, Maximillian, etc)
Alex (Alexander, Alexandre)
Nick (Nickolai, Nicolas, etc)
Anton
Mark
I know Andrew/Andrei, Kai, Mikhail, Lev. Quite often children are called differently at home and at school (Misha vs Michael, etc). I would only avoid the tricky names such as Nikita and Valery (which are boys names in Russian but girls names in Uk)

For girls there seems to be more diversity with people going for classic names:
Anna (Anya)
Maria
Sophia
Ksenia
Katya (Katherine, Catherine)
Liza
Polina
Nina
Alexandra

Youreadthebabybooks · 18/08/2021 05:38

When you say Ian is popular in wales do you perhaps mean Ieuan ? Pronounced Y-eye-an rather than Ian ( pronounced ee-an)
I’ve lived in wales my whole
Life and met very few Ian’s and none younger than 30 now.
I like the name Jan - but people will probably initially pronounce it with the English letter J but that is easily
Corrected

garlictwist · 18/08/2021 05:25

I think the girls names are great and I like Elias a lot.

I do think jan will be pronounced incorrectly for the most part.

Ian is a fine and accepted name but for a middle aged man rather than a young child. It's kind of old fashioned.

peaceinourtime · 18/08/2021 05:21

Tri? I knew one, she was lovely

Livvielo · 18/08/2021 02:25

Zoe is fab 😃

Livvielo · 18/08/2021 02:24

Hi, I’m Livia, But spend my life being called Olivia. It’s quite annoying!!
I usually go by Liv. It’s acceptable but can be tiresome for the person wearing the name.
I have a Louisa and a Hannah. Would those names work for you?
Louisa could be Luisa. Or Louise.
Hannah with or without the H.

Elias is a great name!
Jan would be pronounced with a J on sight here. But once corrected, people would get it! But again, might be a pain in the backside correcting all the time!
I also think of it as a female name. My mum is a Jan.

Buttercup54321 · 18/08/2021 00:55

Zoe.
Elias or John

Smurf123 · 17/08/2021 22:40

I like Zoe and Elias
My dh is Danish with a name that begins with J and it annoys him with the difference in pronunciation between here uk and when he's in Denmark.
For that very reason he insisted on names that could be pronounced the same way for our ds and dd

AdriannaP · 17/08/2021 22:33

Max or Alex (Sasha) are great suggestions!
Leo or Lev?
Ana for Anastasia
I know a Anastasia abbreviated to Stasi but wouldn’t work in German!!
Lotta
Olga
Agnes

AdriannaP · 17/08/2021 22:30

Kai is very common in South England, I know 3 under the age of 5.
Jan - will not be pronounced the German way for sure.

Cindie943811A · 17/08/2021 22:28

Is Eli used in Russia and Germany? Is nice and short. I know a 4 year old Eli. Very similar to Elias.
Also Levi
Liv is not common but I’ve heard of a few.
Kai means Prince but I’m afraid the Rooneys ruined the name for me.
Does Kurt work in Russian and German?
How fortunate for your children to grow up tri- lingual— you deserve a lot of credit because to teach your children extra languages, even when they are your native tongues, takes extra effort. I’ve known parents who intended to do this but it didn’t work out.
Good luck

VanillaAndOrange · 17/08/2021 12:08

Most people in the UK know some Polish people nowadays so I'd be surprised if many of them hadn't come across a Jan pronounced Yan. In any case you only have to tell each new person once. I rathe like Jan - I used to know a little Austrian boy called that, and I thought it was very sweet and simple, and more international than Johann(es).

Liv is a name in its own right in Scandinavian countries.

I honestly like all 4 choices, I just wanted to say that I don't think any of them will cause any major problems.

ElvisPresleyHadABaby · 17/08/2021 10:32

Sacha? Annika? Lena?

MrsBertBibby · 17/08/2021 08:32

Elias is gorgeous. Just do it!
Like Zoë a lot. Also Ida
Liv sounds a bit chopped off to me. It's a good friend's daughter's nickname, I like it well enough, but so widespread. She is of course an Olivia.

Nina and Edith were my top girl names, but may not work across all languages.

Magicstars · 17/08/2021 07:44

Sophia,
Zac,
How about Anastasia as a first name, Nn Ana?