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Enid, pronounced the Welsh way as "enn-id"

65 replies

Cwningen · 11/07/2021 23:56

We'd like the name Enid for our baby girl, pronounced the Welsh way as "enn-id" rather than the English way "ee-nid". We live in an area of Wales where around 40% of people are Welsh speakers including myself, and we want a Welsh name but one that is not unpronounceable to non-Welsh speakers. So what are your opinions on Enid? Thank you.

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DamsonJammyBastard · 13/07/2021 12:29

Ennid does sound nice. But I hate Eenid with the passion of 1000 fiery suns. That would be an 'I'm off down the deed poll office to change my name' as soon as legally permitted situation for me.

CustardyCreams · 13/07/2021 12:07

I’m English. Never heard the pronunciation Enn-id, it’s lovely. Obviously first off I’d assume Ee-nid if I saw it written down, but it’s hardly complicated. She, “no it’s Enn-id” and problem solved. Loads of names have several possible pronunciations, it’s not a deal breaker.

MenaiMna · 13/07/2021 12:00

Where I am (clue's in the name) it's a perfectly normal, perfectly lovely traditional name getting a revival. People will have no problem pronouncing it properly i.e.: your way.

Oldandcobwebby · 13/07/2021 11:01

I am from the valleys, pushing 60, and until last year, I had never heard the name pronounced as anything other than EE-nid, (as in Enid Blyton) and I knew quite a number of people with that name when I was growing up. Having said that, I think I prefer the ENN-id pronunciation, but I am sure your daughter will get heartily fed up with correcting people throughout her life.

CaffiSaliMali · 13/07/2021 10:43

It's a nice name, makes a refreshing change. She will get Ee-nid a lot though so do think about whether that will annoy you or not. My Welsh name is mispronounced more often than not and it winds my Mam up no end, we are in England though. Enid is very easy to learn so hopefully most people will get it right once corrected.

I like Sioned and Bethan too. I know one Sioned and two Bethans, all in their 30s.

cariadlet · 12/07/2021 21:40

I had an Aunty Enid who pronounced her name Ee-nid. That was in English speaking South Wales. I didn't know that there was a different pronunciation before opening this thread.

I'm in my 50s, and growing up I always thought of it as a pretty awful dated name. But there are lots of names which were old fashioned granny and grandad names when I was young and which have made a come back since then.

KirstenBlest · 12/07/2021 21:17

A couple of other names we have in mind are Sioned and Bethan, but we think that Enid just sounds nicer.

I'm older than you @Cwningen, and there are lots of Sioneds and Bethans around my age (50+). I only recall one Enid of about my age, and it seemed fresh and pretty then.

If you chose Sioned or Bethan, you would get the Sigh-oh-ned/Sigh-owned and Bethun outside welsh-speaking areas.

It is nice to see a pretty and underused suggestion.

TommyShelby · 12/07/2021 21:00

I’m in west Wales and I’d pronounce it Enn-id. It’s a beautiful name. Hyfryd iawn Smile

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 12/07/2021 19:47

I know a lovely Enid (Enn-id) - I'm in NW Wales. Love the name

Cwningen · 12/07/2021 19:41

Thanks for all your responses. We probably are going to go with this name, but still not completely decided. I just think Enid said the Welsh way is such a lovely name. It is true that outside Wales (and perhaps also within Wales in non-Welsh speaking areas), she would often have to correct people on her name, but they'd only have to hear it once to know how to say it. At least Enid is an easy name for English speakers to say, unlike some Welsh names such as Llinos and Lleucu. One of you suggested spelling it as Ennid, but I'm not too keen on that idea as its not how the name is meant to be spelled, and after a quick Google and Facebook search, I came across nobody in the English/Welsh speaking world with that name. A couple of other names we have in mind are Sioned and Bethan, but we think that Enid just sounds nicer.

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KirstenBlest · 12/07/2021 18:50

The MER-ed-ith pronunciation is from the anglicised version.
Welsh always stresses the last-but-one syllable.

Meredydd is nice as a boy's name. It shortens to Merêd (accent means you stress the last syllable), so probably would be considered a bit femnine nowadays..

The MER-uh-dith pronunciation isn't very nice and seems american. I can't understand why someone would use it as a girl's name

daisypond · 12/07/2021 18:33

I like it. I’m English and know how the Welsh pronunciation should be.

minatrina · 12/07/2021 16:02

@Cindie943811A

A bit off track but I knew a baby girl named Meredith. It was pronounced the usual English way of Merry-dith. Her mother was told by someone that the correct pronunciation was Mer- Ed- ith so she promptly started calling her daughter that. Child was about 12 months old at the time. No idea how she got on as I lost touch.
Ooo interesting - I've met several people with the surname Meredith and my instinct is to pronounce it Me-RED-ith if it's a surname, and MER-ridith if s first name. I've never even thought about it before though! Grin
Zoomoff · 12/07/2021 15:59

I'm a first language Welsh speaking South Walian. I had an auntie Ee-nid and had no idea it was a Welsh name until I was an adult and heard someone pronounce it Enn-id (always associated it with Enid Blyton). I much prefer the proper pronunciation, so much prettier, and I'm glad the name is making a comeback.

GogLais · 12/07/2021 15:55

@Cindie943811A

A bit off track but I knew a baby girl named Meredith. It was pronounced the usual English way of Merry-dith. Her mother was told by someone that the correct pronunciation was Mer- Ed- ith so she promptly started calling her daughter that. Child was about 12 months old at the time. No idea how she got on as I lost touch.
Meredith isn't really welsh. It's the anglicised form of a boy's name, Meredydd or Maredudd

I know a family with the surname Meredith and they say it as Meredydd

(mer-ED-ith, 'ith' rhymes with 'with')

WhenZoomWasJustAnIceLolly · 12/07/2021 15:53

Where I live the pronunciation Enn-id would be the default. If you wanted the English pronunciation it would keep getting mispronounced. Lovely name.

Cindie943811A · 12/07/2021 15:48

A bit off track but I knew a baby girl named Meredith. It was pronounced the usual English way of Merry-dith. Her mother was told by someone that the correct pronunciation was Mer- Ed- ith so she promptly started calling her daughter that. Child was about 12 months old at the time. No idea how she got on as I lost touch.

OverByYer · 12/07/2021 10:10

It’s a lovely name.
I’m Welshbut would say the English pronunciation.
You will probably spend a lot of time correcting people.
NB I know of a few Sians in England that get called Cy-an Shock

elfran · 12/07/2021 10:01

I think both pronunciations are beautiful; it's my 4mo daughter's name so I'm a bit biased.

We are in England and use the English pronunciation, though told her Welsh family they were welcome to say it however came naturally to them. They've all used the English way so far but they're in the South so reading the responses here that may be it?

It is a bit of a Marmite name (perhaps less so in Wales) but we've had so many compliments on it so far... if anybody thinks it's horrible they've been kind enough to keep their mouth shut! (And I'd probably find their favourite names horrible so 🤷🏻‍♀️)

KirstenBlest · 12/07/2021 09:52

This illustrates what happens when a welsh name become known by an anglicised pronunciation. A beautiful name gets ruined.

Enid is a lovely name. I'd use it but insist on the Enn-id pronunciation. You only need to tell each person once.

KirstenBlest · 12/07/2021 09:43

It's a very old Welsh name, @namechange90832.

DrDetriment · 12/07/2021 07:33

A beautiful pronunciation. So much nicer than Ee-nid. Go for it.

namechange90832 · 12/07/2021 07:30

I'm from Wales and would pronounce it Ee-nid mainly because I think of it as an English name so would read it as such, not in a welsh way. Sounds softer with Eee personally, but so long as you don't mind it being pronounced two different ways, especially if she moves away, I would go for it.

Tbh in Wales though, I think I'd just go for a Welsh name, seems odd to avoid welsh names in the hope they can get pronounced out of Wales but then pick a name that has potential to be mispronounced by the Welsh and English, at least the former would be pronounced right at home!

orangejuicer · 12/07/2021 07:20

I'm from Cardiff and I know an Enn-id. Nice name.

Bringmemoonshine · 12/07/2021 07:13

I grew up in rural Welsh speaking South Wales where it was always pronounced the Welsh way. I prefer that to the usual English pronunciation and you/ she will only have to correct people the first time they mispronounce it. If you love it, use it.