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Do you think you can sort of 'force' a nickname?

56 replies

ArsendLupin · 10/07/2021 07:17

For boys we quite like a particular short nickname but wouldn't want that as the full name and we can't agree on a name that it 'naturally' derives from. I want a longer name where the first and last letters contract into the nickname.

As an example imagine the nickname was Ben. We didn't like Benjamin, but we liked Bevan - shortened to Ben. (Bevan is not the name Grin)

Is that just daft? DH thinks nicknames should naturally be the starting sound of the name (ie Bev for Bevan) and people will use that. I think we can encourage any nickname we like, if we just use it from birth (ie Kit for Christopher)

Ps we have agreed we're not giving the nickname as the full name - we both want a longer name as the given name.

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Cookies47 · 15/07/2021 13:45

Why not just call your baby the name you want them to be called? Why have a different one just for their birth certificate?
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Evenstar · 15/07/2021 13:22

For those saying why not just put the short form on the BC, I did know a Debbie who was Debbie rather than Deborah on the BC, she did have problems when filling out official forms or in formal situations where putting Debbie was queried.

Evenstar · 15/07/2021 13:17

My daughter has always been known as a shortened version of her name, although it was the recognised short form of the name. We gave the full name in the birth announcement and added the nickname preceded by “ to be known as”

Haffdonga · 15/07/2021 13:13

I think because the nickname they chose was a bit 'childish' (like Sweetie or Poppet) and they might have realised that although they loved it, she might want a more professional grown up name for whatever adult career she followed.

inappropriateraspberry · 15/07/2021 11:44

So why call her 'Grace'? Why didn't they just put Lala on her birth certificate!?

Haffdonga · 11/07/2021 12:49

I know a girl whose 'known as' name bears no relationship at all in either sound or spelling to her official first name from Day One. e.g Her name is Grace Anderson. She's known as Lala.

It was just presented on her birth announcement cards. The Anderson family are delighted to announce the arrival of baby Grace Mary Anderson, to be known as Lala

Lala is now a teenager and as far as I know has never been known as Grace except on a few more official things. It doesn't seem to have caused anyone any confusion.

ChrissyPlummer · 11/07/2021 12:27

@Fozzleyplum I’d never heard of it as a nn for Christopher until I watched ‘Upstart Crow’. In my area it would never be used, always Chris. I went to school with loads of Christophers and they were either ‘Chris’ or a nn based on their surname or sometimes an unfortunate occurrence. One lad got chewing gum stuck in his hair and was known as ‘chewy head’, ‘chewy’ or ‘chuddy’ for most of high school.

somethingischasingme · 11/07/2021 08:59

I know a Bill (who's name is Nicholas) and Ben (Andrew) I never knew their actual given names until I went to their weddings!!

Fozzleyplum · 11/07/2021 00:13

As an aside, no one here is ever know as ‘Kit’ for Christopher, it’s always, always ‘Chris’. Kids will make their own nicknames for each other anyway.

My Christopher is known universally as Kit, not Chris - and has been for all of his 18 years.

parttimedrifter · 10/07/2021 23:30

You can definitely do this!

motogogo · 10/07/2021 23:27

My dd has a full formal name but we shorten it, it is a normal derivative of the longer name though

ChrissyPlummer · 10/07/2021 23:24

@Classica A friend of mine didn’t know her correct middle name for years. She always thought it was another name that she’d misheard and kind of rhymes with her actual middle name (like Kaye/Faye). It was only when she’d written her full name on her school book that her DM pointed it out 😂.

As an aside, no one here is ever know as ‘Kit’ for Christopher, it’s always, always ‘Chris’. Kids will make their own nicknames for each other anyway.

OldTinHat · 10/07/2021 23:19

My parents tried for me but no one has ever used it and they gave up in the end! I have a nn for DS1 but I'm the only one who uses it. Exh tried to call him by the usual shortened nn on our way from hospital but I said I didn't want anyone calling him that - yep everyone does! 🤭

Iamstuckhere · 10/07/2021 23:12

Our daughter is known by her nickname. Most people don’t even know her full name or that her nickname isn’t her real name. It’s not a natural nick name for her full name.
However it’s a nickname for several other longer names which we didn’t like. But the nickname is my most favoured ever name. So she is known only by nickname but has a beautiful full name should she ever wish to use it and sound more professional.

I know a number of children which nick names, which are their full names. And whilst this might work for some people. I wonder if it will affect them if they end up a very professional environment. I would love to think no one would judge on a name. But unfortunately I’m not sure.

mintaerobrownie · 10/07/2021 23:08

Bevan is nothing to do with the name Ben misses point of thread.

Unless you say the name then we can't say if it's silly or not. I know a Arnold as they wanted to call him Arnie and a Rupert known as Ru. I hate nicknames.

Fozzleyplum · 10/07/2021 23:07

I have an 18 year old Christopher/Kit; when we named him, the Christopher/Kit thing was very unusual. We used Kit from birth, and that is the name he goes by. I just told people he was Kit, short for Christopher, and very few people have ever called him Chris.

Wolfiefan · 10/07/2021 23:01

Choose the name you want to call your baby. Once they are old enough to have opinions (MUCH younger than you think) they choose their own nickname.
So don’t choose any name you don’t like all possible variations of.

drpet49 · 10/07/2021 22:58

Oh for heavens sake just put Ben on the certificate. I don’t understand why people have to make it so complicated:

TillyTheTiger · 10/07/2021 22:54

We planned to do this. We liked the name Dominic (this was before scumbag Cummings hit the news) but not keen on the nn Dom so we planned to introduce him to everyone as Nico (Dominic) Middle name Surname.
Fortunately we had a girl instead so we were saved the explanations Grin

Echobelly · 10/07/2021 22:46

Yup - our son has his full name on his birth certificate, but goes by a shortened variant everywhere.

Onthegrid · 10/07/2021 22:41

When DD2 was born we just announced her as “Ben**, born at 3pm weight 6lb”
Some people (MIL) managed to spell it wrong and was quite shaken when we told her that there was a longer name on her birth certificate, despite it being a completely standard name and nickname.
She reverted to her full name as an elder teen

Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 10/07/2021 22:29

Yes you can absolutely do this. One of my kids is known day to day (including all their labels at school etc) by a name that I'm not even sure is officially a 'nickname' for their birth certificate name! We just introduced them as that name from birth, but we wanted them to have a more formal name on their birth certificate.

They do know their proper name as well though!

BlueyDragon · 10/07/2021 22:24

I know lots of people, including DB, who are known by their second name. They are always called by their second name and introduce themselves by their second name. But wherever their passport name is used they have to remember they have a different name! So it’s just a matter of usage IME

Classica · 10/07/2021 22:16

I remember reading an interview with Kit thingy from Game of Thrones (Jon Snow) who said he didn't find out his official name was Christopher until he was about 11 years old. Confused Not sure if he was just a particularly unobservant and unquestioning child but it shows it can work Grin

Terrazzo · 10/07/2021 21:23

Yup, worked for my DS.

IMO nicknames are something like a Ben who goes by Benjybean or Spike.

My son is for example William but goes by Liam instead of the usual Will/Billy (Not that name, a less obvious shortening).

We just said from the start, ‘this is Liam (William) John Jones, 8lb10 born 10am 10/7/21’ and that was that.