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Welsh nature names for girls

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Palmatree · 03/07/2021 11:38

I'm looking for Welsh nature names for girls, probably to use as a middle name. I know of -

Ffion - Foxglove
Eira - Snow
Eirlys - Snowdrop

Are there any others? Thanks.

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DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 14:01

We probably say it the same @Feelingofftoday.

The name has become popular in the past few years probably because names like Ava and Ada are popular.

It's difficult to transcribe i because the Ei letter combination doesn't have an equivalent in English. The nearest is Ay, but it doesn't sound as long.

It will be said as Ayruh, which I find ugly.
I do know an Eira who says her name as Ira, but her parents don't speak Welsh.

Feelingofftoday · 14/11/2021 13:43

@DacwMamYnDwad

Saying Ira for Eira is the equivalent of saying Snow to rhyme with Now.

Eira is a pretty name

I'm Welsh, I speak Welsh ergo I do not say Eira incorrectly and neither do the Welsh speaking Welsh people I know who all pronounce it the same as me. It's not possible for us to pronounce it incorrectly for the reasons I have stated.

Therefore it must mean that you and I simply have a difference of understanding on how to illustrate phonetically.

I'm sure we would agree if we could hear eachother say it, even if our accents differ the stress would fall in the same place etc.

DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 13:28

Saying Ira for Eira is the equivalent of saying Snow to rhyme with Now.

Eira is a pretty name

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 14/11/2021 13:22

I’m Welsh speaking in South Wales and I don’t know anyone who pronounces Eira as Eye-ra. I’ll try my best to write it phonetically (I’m not great at it!) but I would say Ay-ra. Ay as in hay, ra with a soft rolled r.

Anyway, it’s a pretty name Grin

DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 13:19

[quote Feelingofftoday]@DacwMamYnDwad
Still in Wales though
And it's still Welsh wherever it's spoken

A different accent doesn't make it wrong[/quote]
Welsh is phonetic, so yes it is wrong

DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 13:18

Llew

DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 13:17

Hedd
Gwyn, Wyn
River name e.g. Aled, Clwyd, Afan, Teifi, Alun,
Siôr (farmer)
Celyn
Place name e.g. Arfon, Eifion, Meirion, Maldwyn, Berwyn, Trefor, Ceredig, Caio
Bryn
Glyn
Gwynedd
Arthur
Llwyd
Fychan
Bleddyn

Phphion · 14/11/2021 13:09

You would be better off starting a new thread with your question @DaughterOfTheMountains @DaughterOfTheMountains2. People are just going to keep responding to older posts in this thread.

Feelingofftoday · 14/11/2021 13:06

@DacwMamYnDwad
Still in Wales though
And it's still Welsh wherever it's spoken

A different accent doesn't make it wrong

DacwMamYnDwad · 14/11/2021 13:02

@Feelingofftoday

A lot of these names are so wrong

Might as well call the child Chardonnay it's just as naff

If you don't know what the heritage and meaning is why use it?

Cultural appropriation just comes across as crass and ignorant

Oh and as for this:

Eye-ra is an anglicised or S. Walian way of saying it.

South Wales is in Wales ffs

South Wales is in Wales but fewer people speak Welsh. If Eira was pronounced Ira it would be Aira.
DaughterOfTheMountains2 · 14/11/2021 12:42

…Well regardless: I am Welsh, speak fluent Welsh, and lived most of my life in Wales. I would just like some ideas of male Welsh nature words that I could consider as a middle name. Thanks!

Feelingofftoday · 14/11/2021 11:39

A lot of these names are so wrong

Might as well call the child Chardonnay it's just as naff

If you don't know what the heritage and meaning is why use it?

Cultural appropriation just comes across as crass and ignorant

Oh and as for this:

Eye-ra is an anglicised or S. Walian way of saying it.

South Wales is in Wales ffs

Spacerader · 14/11/2021 11:30

Yes im in south Wales and I'd proud eira i-ra.
The ei sound has more of an I sound.

But tprouncociatiins to change in different regions.

DaughterOfTheMountains · 14/11/2021 11:25

I should clarify I am a Welsh speaker, but coming up blank on this one!

DaughterOfTheMountains · 14/11/2021 11:24

Does anyone have any suggestions for boys nature names - or rather, not even names but appropriate words - in Welsh for a middle name? My daughter already has Eira as a middle name and I love it! Now looking for something more summery.

CaffiSaliMali · 06/07/2021 19:28

Eira is an excellent choice OP, gorgeous name!

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Palmatree · 06/07/2021 11:29

Thanks for your suggestions all. I think Eira might be my favourite, just need to persuade DH!

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Granohlaa · 06/07/2021 10:21

I love Eleri. Also Anwen or Arianwen.

hoochymamgu · 06/07/2021 10:17

Lovely list @DacwMamYnDwad

My Gwenyth on IMDb:

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0678783/

We'll just have to agree to disagree Wink

DacwMamYnDwad · 06/07/2021 09:16

@hoochymamgu, Gwenith is wheat. If you spell it Gwenyth (ugh) it sounds different.

@PalmatreeHere are some suggestions, some are lovely, some a bit naff, not all are strictly nature names:

Enlli
Lleucu
Elain
Elan
Heledd
Hedydd
Gwenffrwd
Gwener
Gwenno
Gwennol
Gwylan
Llinos
Eos
Mared
Marged
Begw
Emrallt
Crisial
Gwiddfyd
Elliw
Fioled
Gweiryl
Eluned
Iona
Haf
Mai
Falmai
Arianrhod
Dyddgu
Gwen
Gwendolen
Perl
Beryl
Morfydd
Gaenor
Menai
Alwen
Cledwen
Tesni
Glesni
Bronwen
Ffion

hoochymamgu · 05/07/2021 19:36

I love Blodeuwedd, the mythical made up woman, made of flowers, and the Saunders Lewis play!

hoochymamgu · 05/07/2021 19:35

Ah my aunt was named Gwenyth, just different spellings maybe, she was born in the 1930's Doesn't gwenith mean wheat, as in bugeilio'r gwenith gwyn, a song from my home village..
What a lovely thread, easy to derail it though Blush

DacwMamYnDwad · 05/07/2021 19:11

I wasn't saying you were, Oneandabean. I'm sure it is lovely the way you say it.

I've not heard of Awst as a name. No reason why not, I suppose.

Gwenyth looks strange. The spelling is Gwenith.

Blodeuwedd is an old nature name.

Oneandabean · 05/07/2021 18:56

@DacwMamYnDwad
I wasn’t making a suggestion, I was just saying some of the (incorrect) pronounciations we have encountered. I’m fully aware of the correct pronunciation. A soft ay sound with a rolled r.

DacwMamYnDwad · 05/07/2021 16:25

This site is really bad. Misspellings and peculiar suggestions.

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