Why do people get so annoyed?

Lucky you KeeleyIs, it must be great to be perfect.

People will judge on names, whether or not you think they will, and you do not represent all teachers.

I can't believe that you have never come across a name and though 'What were the parents thinking?'.

This thread shows why people get annoyed. I'm disgruntled because you dismiss my opinion, accuse me of being inarticulate, having a narrow vocabulary and a narrow mind.

And I am a teacher

good for you. But that said... people do judge. Not so much the kid, but the parent for sure.

@FayCarew not true. MN is a demographic and NOT the real world.
If you feel it's ok to use such terms then shame on you, it's a horrible derogatory term that is completely unnecessary to use and only shows up the person using it.

As a teacher we don't allow kids to use such terms.
Perhaps open up your vocabulary aNd your mind.

And I am a teacher and no way in hell would I determine a students grades on their name.
I wouldn't suggest you go in to teaching if you have that mindset.

people get cross when they are disrespected or looked down upon.

KeeleyIs, if the posters on here disapprove, chances are other people will too, but they probably won't say it to your face. The people being snobbish about the names might be teachers determining their A-level grades or a manager allocatiing projects/promotions or something.

Chavvy is just slang. Is it any more derogatory than calling someone a snob.

I’ve worked in a school with lots of unique names or unique spellings. So many parents (and children) were annoyed when you asked to spell their names. How am I meant to guess that Jamie is spelled Jai-mei for instance.

Chavy is a horrible derogatory term that is used a lot by snobby MN who think they have the best taste.
But as Grayson Perry has demonstrated taste is subjective, we all think we have the best taste.
Anyone who feels it's ok to use the term 'chav' or 'chavvy' (happens a lot here) makes me think they're trying too hard and need to stop being snobs.

The names I love MN hates because here not classic.
I love the names Autumn, Skylar, Summer, Sienna and for boys Asher, Elias etc
I am more than aware these are considered chavy by the small MN demographic.
But I don't think I'm a chav...as if that's a bad thing.

You can't know anything about me due to my baby name taste.
It's not a bad thing to dislike names, but it is wrong to use horror derogatory terms.
Learn to be more articulate than throwing terms like this around.

If someone says what do you think of the name Lola-Mai and someone says oh it's chavvy, the person asking is offended because it's saying of you name your kid that, your kid will sound like they will be an agressive lout and that's what people will expect her to be. People with children named Lola-Mai are offended because it's saying your kid sounds like they're an agressive lout and that's what I'd expect her to be.

If you think "ah I'm totally cool with people thinking I picked a shit name (because chavvy is never used as a compliment) that will mark my child out as trouble in later life" great for you

Jensen doesn't rhyme
It's c**y because Jenson became popular because of a racing car driver. nn Jens isn't great.

Chavvy could mean a young person engaging in aggressively loutish behavior especially when in groups and for wearing flashy jewelry and athletic casual clothing.

Isn't the image a name conjures part of why you would pick it? Isn't that a stereotype?

Boris Johnson and Jacon Rees-Mogg hold the positions they do because of some kind of widespread internalised idea that being bossed about by an Old Etonian is somehow right and correct. There could be no working-class version of either -- their position is down to a mystifying internalised deference.

See also 'too Irish'.

again, they’re not stereotyping a person but a NAME.

Yes I understand I am not stupid.
But that name is usually attached to a person. And people do judge based on a name and this is wrong.

they’re not stereotyping a person but a NAME.

The point is that they are proving that they view the people typically described as "chavvy" negatively. It doesn't matter what they're applying it to.

Of course she understands, it’s just a thread wanting to poke fun at kids called Jayden without actually starting a thread saying that

You need someone to spell out why the word chav is more offensive than the word posh? That one has clear negative connotations - stereotypically known for engaging in aggressively loutish behaviour and one doesn't elegant or stylishly luxurious

@ScribblyBaller I'm pretty sure it's more about pointing out both conscious/unconscious discrimination regarding names. Not that they're expecting to get hired using a false name 😒

You seriously don’t understand why calling a name ‘chavvy’ is problematic?

It’s a term used to belittle working class people... what’s difficult to understand about that?

Are you equally OK with calling some names ‘ghetto’ because you’re not using the term to describe an individual person?

Well gee, do you really think that a company that dismisses the CVs of someone they assume to be black is going to offer them the job if they secure an interview by having a 'white' name?

'Don't give your child a black name. The racists won't like it'.

But the association of a name can be just as harmful. For example many POC have said for years that their names can hold them back in professional settings. I've read several accounts of people applying for jobs with their name and getting no responses and then when using a more "white" name (think Tyrell vs Tyler) they start getting interviews.

I don't think it's a case of people always being overly sensitive - being perceived as too black or too chavvy can have real implications.