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A sister for Seren

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PensionPuzzle · 06/06/2021 18:10

Have found out this weekend that DC2 is another little girl. We already have Seren, DP has Welsh heritage without being truly Welsh and we are in England.
I think my shortlist is quite a random mix of Cerys (don't like Carys so much) or Elin for another easy Welsh name, or Charlotte or Lucy.
DP has his heart set on a really Welsh name that I really don't like and he got to pick DD's name so I've vetoed it but it would actually work as a middle name with either Charlotte or Lucy. We aren't too worried about middle names and won't have to worry about family names being used as there's too many women to keep them all happy 😂 Surname is two syllables and sounds fine with all four of my choices.

Any thoughts to help me narrow it down?

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Arrierttyclock · 07/06/2021 22:19

My neighbour just had a little girl called Mabley. I'd never heard of it before but it's gorgeous. It means loveable 🥰

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 07/06/2021 22:05

@SilverBangle

I have a Seren, Cerys and Angharad. (I wouldn’t recommend Angharad if you are living in England. None of our English relatives will attempt it 🥴).

Within our family we also have
Cadi
Mali
Nia - not my favourite name tbh
Elin
Lowri
Bethan
Haf
Rhiannon

I absolutely love Angharad.

so so so pretty

boompah · 07/06/2021 22:01

Getti?

CaffiSaliMali · 07/06/2021 21:25

Eleri is Elerry, to rhyme with Terry and Kerry/Ceri. So Elle-erry.

In some welsh accents it can sound a little like El-airy (Alex Jones on Iaith ar Daith for example) but it is very subtle.

SilverBangle · 07/06/2021 20:58

I'm not sure I've been saying Eleri correctly myself now so maybe better cross that one off

Eleri - El- air-ee.

Starsandglitter · 07/06/2021 20:48

The Eleri I have met is pronounced a bit more like El-air-ee which I think sounds beautiful. I love Lowri too

KirstenBlest · 07/06/2021 19:58

Eleri is nice. It sounds pretty much like Lerry.

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PensionPuzzle · 07/06/2021 19:26

We get Serene occasionally, and another version I can't even think how to type from one auntie (almost like Suranne thingy off the telly) but most people get it right, or the English version of right anyway. I'm not sure I've been saying Eleri correctly myself now so maybe better cross that one off Blush

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tiredteacher100 · 07/06/2021 19:12

How about Mariel?
Cerys is nice too

CaffiSaliMali · 07/06/2021 19:09

I have always been partial to Elinor. I like Eleri. It's easy to say IMO but I think a lot of people will rhyme it with celery initially. You may need to emphasise that it rhymes with Kerry. Teleri is nice and makes the name stand out from many Ellies, Ellas and Elodies.

This thread has reminded me that Eiry/Eiri is growing on me, I'm also in England of Welsh extraction and Eiry avoids the -ruh sound Eira will get (and which my own accent leans toward). It can be tricky finding a name you love and which you think will work in England can't it!

What I will say, having grown up in England with a Welsh name my native Welsh speaking mother was convinced was 'English proof' is to imagine possible mispronunciations and whether they will irritate you. My mother gets very annoyed when people get my name wrong - most people initially say it wrong. I can't be bothered getting grumpy about it but it really gets my Mam's goat. So make sure you can live with a mispronouncuation as you may hear it a lot.

SilverBangle · 07/06/2021 18:45

I wouldn’t go for Elinor but that’s only because she was my DD’s bully all through secondary school. Take her out of the equation and I guess Elinor is a “nice” name.

We also have an Eleri and a Catrin in the family.

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PensionPuzzle · 07/06/2021 18:32

What about Elinor? Also leaning (T)Eleri now too but I can't shift Certs from my mind. I went to school with an Angharad and worked with a Heulwen so I've seen the challenges of having a 'tricky' name so trying to stick with ones that are, or can be without straying too far, said as they're seen.

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SilverBangle · 07/06/2021 18:20

I have a Seren, Cerys and Angharad. (I wouldn’t recommend Angharad if you are living in England. None of our English relatives will attempt it 🥴).

Within our family we also have
Cadi
Mali
Nia - not my favourite name tbh
Elin
Lowri
Bethan
Haf
Rhiannon

KirstenBlest · 07/06/2021 18:11

I'm not sure how popular it is in Wales in general for little girls, but among the Welsh speakers it, along with Carys, is a middle aged name. Ceri is also a bit middle aged. Think Karen and Kerry.

Gwenan seems middle aged too, and is the more popular spelling. It's quite nice though.

Hatsoff2U · 07/06/2021 17:50

I love the name Cerys and am also considering it for my little girl. Those who live in Wales, how popular is the name amongst little kids in your area? I'm in Wales but don't know that many children. I don't want a name that's likely to be ultra common in school if possible!

DacwMamYnDwad · 07/06/2021 17:37

Hmm. It is in there but I'm doubtful.

tukanada · 07/06/2021 17:09

Gwennan
Alys
Sian
Ceri
Fflur
Haf
Mair

SilentPanic · 07/06/2021 16:57

Sure DacwMamYnDwad - It's listed in the dictionary (Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru) and was used in John Davies' dictionary 1632; and Y Gymraeg yn ei Disgleirdeb among other sources.

Eiry/Eiri are lovely too.

DacwMamYnDwad · 07/06/2021 15:56

You should not suggest dodgy spellings @ironmanreadyalmostnotquite, it's Lleucu not Lleuci - the ci ending isn't very nice

ironmanreadyalmostnotquite · 07/06/2021 15:39

Can I add Lleuci. I love it. X

DacwMamYnDwad · 07/06/2021 15:02

You could always use Siarlot. (Charlotte, pron Sharr-lot)

I am familiar with Eiry but not Eirys. Could you give the source of the meaning, @SilentPanic, please.

DacwMamYnDwad · 07/06/2021 14:47

@SleepingStandingUp, Lwsi is Lucy written phonetically. Pretty awful if you ask me.

Lleucu is the welsh version, and it is pronounced Clee-Oo-koo, Lewkoo or How the hell do I say that? or if you speak Welsh, Lleucu.

Enfys - oh god no, too naff and too much like Elvis

Llinos - lovely but will be Kleenose or Linnus

Delyth - dated

SilentPanic · 07/06/2021 14:43

Sleeping Lwsi is the same as Lucy- It's not really a Welsh name, just a Welsh way of spelling an English name.

DacwMamYnDwad (Ar ben y gamfa wen!) Eirys is an old Welsh word for comely or fair, although I think most people would think it's a Welshified version of iris. I know 2 over 70 and one little one, am wondering if it will become more popular.

SleepingStandingUp · 07/06/2021 14:30

Lwsi how is this pronounced please?

I love Cerys

Sawyersfishbiscuits · 07/06/2021 14:23

Enfys - Welsh for rainbow
Llinos
Manon
Mair
Mali