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A sister for Seren

111 replies

PensionPuzzle · 06/06/2021 18:10

Have found out this weekend that DC2 is another little girl. We already have Seren, DP has Welsh heritage without being truly Welsh and we are in England.
I think my shortlist is quite a random mix of Cerys (don't like Carys so much) or Elin for another easy Welsh name, or Charlotte or Lucy.
DP has his heart set on a really Welsh name that I really don't like and he got to pick DD's name so I've vetoed it but it would actually work as a middle name with either Charlotte or Lucy. We aren't too worried about middle names and won't have to worry about family names being used as there's too many women to keep them all happy 😂 Surname is two syllables and sounds fine with all four of my choices.

Any thoughts to help me narrow it down?

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Frazzled2207 · 09/06/2021 23:11

Heulwen is very old lady IMO

Menna?

Frazzled2207 · 09/06/2021 23:10

@MangosteenSoda

I’m confused now because I didn’t think Seren and Elin rhymed?! I like them both (the way I’m pronouncing them!).
They def don’t in welsh but probably would when pronounced by english person
KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 23:05

@butwhatcanwedo, not Bronwyn. It's a misspelt version of Bronwen, and the -wyn ending suggests it is a boy's name.

butwhatcanwedo · 09/06/2021 22:35

I love the name Seren.
Angharad, Bronwyn, Or maybe something with a Celtic nod but not Welsh like Demelza

KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 22:31

@TatianaBis, Iris is nicer. The Ey bit said in the English way is wrong.

Ey-ris isn't quite it, but it's hard to convey sounds that you don't get in a language.

Heulwen won't work outside a Welsh-speaking environment.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 09/06/2021 21:29

Heulwen! Sunshine and a star!

TatianaBis · 09/06/2021 21:29

The length is not the issue but the pronunciation. It’s either ey or eye. I like eye not not ey.

KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 21:27

Sorry, cross-posted there.

The Ey is about the same length as eye, and the R is rolled. So it's more like Iris than Ay-ris

TatianaBis · 09/06/2021 21:14

Eh = Ey as in hey. I’m saying Eye ris is nicer.

KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 20:46

@TatianaBis, Ey-riss. The Ey is short.

TatianaBis · 09/06/2021 20:43

I thought it might be. Eye ris is much nicer than Eh ris.

CaffiSaliMali · 09/06/2021 20:41

@TatianaBis - Eirys is a cymrified version of Iris. I would pronounce it EY-riss (ey as in hey). The letters Ei in Welsh make an ey sound so I would pronounce Eirys with the same ey sound I use for Eira, Eiry and Eirlys.

In some parts of South Wales they say Ei as an eye sound and would say EYE-riss (so Iris basically).

TatianaBis · 09/06/2021 17:27

Eirys

How is that pronounced?

TatianaBis · 09/06/2021 17:19

Seren and Elin are fine together. I like Cerys too but it’s a bit dated right now. Love Manon.

KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 16:03

Elys isn't a name and sounds too close to Elusen

Angharad - there's no G in it, the Ng is a letter not two letters and you don't sound the g. It isn't Ang-GAR-ad or god forbid, Ann Garrud.

The name is ok but know too many of them for it to be special

KirstenBlest · 09/06/2021 15:51

Bronwen is a traditional welsh name, @Yutes. It's Bronwyn that isn't. The -wyn ending would suggest it was a boy's name.

Rhoswyn looks like a boy's name for the same reason. Rhoswyn isn't a name and doesn't have a Roz sound in it. Looks and sounds made up, even as Rhoswen.

Meredydd (anglicised to Meredith) is a boy's name. The two names don't sound the same. Meredydd is Mer-ED-ith (th like in this or there)

Arwen isn't a Welsh name - it's from Lord of the Rings.

The - wyn/-wen male/female is really straightforward.

Birchwoods · 09/06/2021 15:51

Elys is a very pretty name.

Yutes · 09/06/2021 15:09

@SilentPanic

Just to add that the suffix -wyn is male in the Welsh language- so Rhoswyn would be a male name. Rhoswen would be the female equivalent (though it's a new one on me. Very pretty though!)

The -wen, -wyn thing can be quite frustrating for Welsh speakers, because Bronwyn, for example, would be a male name, but it's a mistake that's been made so many times, it's kind of a girl's name now! Still really jars to Welsh ears though.

@SilentPanic So would Bronwen not be a traditional Welsh name then? Or is that ok because of the -wen ending? I’m only asking because I’ve always loved it but would hate to make a faux pas.

Sorry to derail the thread.

SilentPanic · 09/06/2021 12:55

Just to add that the suffix -wyn is male in the Welsh language- so Rhoswyn would be a male name. Rhoswen would be the female equivalent (though it's a new one on me. Very pretty though!)

The -wen, -wyn thing can be quite frustrating for Welsh speakers, because Bronwyn, for example, would be a male name, but it's a mistake that's been made so many times, it's kind of a girl's name now! Still really jars to Welsh ears though.

Whineandwine · 08/06/2021 19:03

I love Nia, if DS had been a girl he’d be Nia and our DD is Merryn so very similar to your Seren.
Other girl names I shortlisted were:
Arwen
Rhoswyn (Roz for short)
Nina (not Welsh just really liked it!)
Meredith ( I like Welsh pronunciation rather than English on this one)

Also have Welsh family called:
Bethan
Rhian
Myfanwy

Kat1112025 · 08/06/2021 10:16

Rowena

SilverBangle · 08/06/2021 08:43

SleepingStandingUp

I absolutely love Angharad.
How is it actually pronounced @SilverBangle. I'd assume anger-ad

It’s pronounced exactly as it’s spelt
Ang-Har-ad, with the H being pronounced.

CaffiSaliMali · 08/06/2021 08:35

Ooh yes Mabli is nice, I believe it's Welsh for Mabel.

CaffiSaliMali · 08/06/2021 08:33

@SleepingStandingUp - you can hear Angharad here - www.bbc.co.uk/wales/livinginwales/sites/howdoisay/names/index.shtml?a

SleepingStandingUp · 08/06/2021 08:29

I absolutely love Angharad.
How is it actually pronounced @SilverBangle. I'd assume anger-ad