Lilibet Diana — what do we think?

I like it, though it's a bit too Albus Severus for me.

But then I think Louis is one of the most godawful wet names going and William and Kate used that twice So I must be more of a Meghan at heart.

@Toddlerteaplease it is a real name used in the US, although not common.

It’s a beautiful name.

I generally couldn't give two hoots about the royal family.
I think it's a beautiful name that honours Harry's gran and his mother.

I think the Queen was very kind to Harry in the run up to Prince Philip's funeral when she decreed that other male royals would wear morning dress, not military uniform so that he wasn't singled out.
She didn't have to do that.
I think she has a lot of affection for him.
I think she'll be chuffed at the name.

It's terrible, it was made up because the Queen couldn't pronounce her name as a toddler. But then I also hate the name Archie as well!

that's what I call "zero" evidence

There's zero evidence the Queen is unhappy with the name choice.

Context is all, so on the balance of probabilities most people would think talking of honour whilst dishonouring your family for the last few months - is a pile of poop. So I rest my case.

Your assumption I'm wrong is based on nothing really there are no balance of probabilities that a couple who have dragged a family through the mud whilst the husband was dying would be delighted. that's what I call "zero" evidence.

I think it was more an interesting cultural observation rather than a snobby one that Megan was trying to keep a foot in both worlds with that name but ultimately it does express Megan's taste and background as an actress. I suppose I wouldn't have thought anything of it if I was reading it on a celeb news site about the offspring of an actor couple and I can certainly think of worse names that are trying to be unique. It does though feel a bit out of step with Harry's background and obviously his brother's choice of baby names, but then Harry's children are highly unlikely to be on the throne so they aren't carrying on tradition.

If she doesn't like it, Lilibet has lots of name variations to choose from!

I do personally also prefer the combination of Diana Lilibet but perhaps they thought Diana carried too much of his mother's identity and wanted their daughter to not be cmnpared to the other Diana or again, was too traditional.

People really feel that they know these people. It's so bizarre. Getting offended on the queen's behalf. Why would you?

Doria won't be left out at all.

She's the only one who'll be involved in the children's lives.

@Marmaladeagain but you have zero idea what the RF think. Maybe the queen was asked and is thrilled with the name?

no-one is saying it is a unique name - it is context that is being discussed. Context is relevant - if you want to honour the Queen - don't drag the RF through the gutter whilst her husband's laying there dying or put out a statement that you'll delay only if Philip dies....

That would be more respectful - putting a public statement out saying you're honouring the Queen is crass.

As ever, judge people by their actions and not their words. It's an easy nod to say you're honouring someone rather than do the actual graft of behaving in an honourable way. Words are cheap.

It's the hypocrisy I don't get - why do they expect a relationship with people they have openly attacked. Thomas feels entitled to a relationship but doesn't get one with Meghan - why do they think Harry is both entitled to speak about his family the way he does and also that he should be welcomed as family members.

@Ihavepixies they are American celebrities.

It's a cute nickname, not a proper name but I thought the same about Archie too. I have a thing about nicknames/shortenings!

@Marmaladeagain I know why they chose it. But it is not as some are claiming a unique name.

Funny, I don't remember all this concern about Prince William naming his daughter after his mum. It's hardly that unusual for people who lost their mum before reaching adulthood to give their daughters her name in some way.

I think it's a lovely name that is meaningful to their family.

I don't get all the snobbishness about "traditional" names over familiar or new names. All names were made up and newfangled at some point.

"This child is not the first child to be called lilibet. The name is not unique to the Queen."

Have you not seen the statement H&M put out? They say they've chosen it because it is the family nickname for the Queen.

The fact that some other people have also independently of the RF used a nickname as a given name is irrelevant as H&M have clearly stated today it is to "honor" the Queen and using her family nickname.

I can't fathom why the same posters keep saying "it's a real name", someone in M's family called Lillie etc it's irrelevant when the statement today from H&M is they are using the name purely as an "honor" to the Queen. Appropriating intimacy - from the grandson who couldn't stay for the Queen's birthday.

Must confuse some of their fans what with them believing the Queen and the RF to be racist etc that they'd want to honour her.

H&M need to be associated with the institution they disparage - it's a tightrope walk and they've fallen off, but they just don't want to believe it yet.

I don't mind the name at all but I find the whole situation a bit of a head fuck. Harry talks about his Dad's failings as a parent and attributes them to his upbringing by his Mum, the Queen.

Didnt Charles do the same about PP? And then give include the name Philip in Williams name?

Shame they didn’t go for Meghandaught as a middle name, like they did for Archie Harrison

Meh I don't like it, Lily is fine.
Two kids with ie names is a bit samey. I don't get them saying her name is Lili is it or Lilibet? Anyway big congratulations to them, I'm sure they don't like my DC's names either 🤣

Such CF to take and use the queen's affectionately remembered childhood nickname to imbue their children with an aura of royalty for later monetization.

Who's going to forget the royal connection?

Lilibet, circus child (original title: Lilibet, cirkusbarn) is the title of a book by the Swedish writer Astrid Lindgren, with photos by Anna Riwkin-Brick

This child is not the first child to be called lilibet. The name is not unique to the Queen.